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Old 12-05-2015, 07:02 PM   #1
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Tire fitment

Okay this may be a dumb question but I have the stock 18 inch wheels and was wanting to get the 18x9 Saleen wheels would the tires I have now fit those or not...I eventually am going to get better tired but was wondering if they would work seeing they have a lot of life left on them thanks in advance

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Old 12-05-2015, 08:57 PM   #2
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I don't think they will fit because aren't your stock wheels 18x8? You will need a wider tire to fit the 18x9

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Old 12-05-2015, 08:59 PM   #3
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That's what I was thinking but I'm not sure on the size of wheel but the tires are 235 50 18 that are on stock rim


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I have 18x9s on the front of my car and I believe the tire size is 255 45 18

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235s will physically install on them but the rip will lip out past the sidewall a good 1/4" plus depending on the brand of your tires. Many 245s will be too narrow as well. 255 is the smallest size you should start with and that will have the sidewall flush with the rim lip.
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Old 12-06-2015, 12:05 PM   #6
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So in other words wait til it's time to replace tires and get a tire and wheel pkg...so what size tire would look good on the Saleen rims...I plan on eventually upgrading suspension that will give about 1.25-1.5 inch drop thanks again for all the help


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This is your best bet right here bud. http://www.americanmuscle.com/blacks...0512-stag.html

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Old 12-06-2015, 03:37 PM   #8
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This is your best bet right here bud. Staggered Black Saleen Style Mustang Wheel & Sumitomo Tire Kit - 18x9/10 (05-14 GT, V6) - Free Shipping

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Nope, wrong.

1 - It is obviously out of stock and they don't always come back into stock (but this probably will).

2 - Those Sumis run narrow and those particular 275s are not optimal for 10" wide and also are not very good for traction.

3 - If you actually take the time to look at the overall tire diameters, A 255/45/18 is 1/2" taller than a 275/40/18 and it is noticeable to the eye. Have fun there with your front tires being taller than the rears.


Note to everyone looking at the AM or any pre-built combos, do your due diligence on what you are actually getting. I have emailed AM about their tire selection a few times and have not exactly gotten a satisfactory response.
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This is why I hardly post on this forum. Because whiney little know it alls like yourself. I have the same exact staggered setup except I have fr500s. I've have these on my car since 2013 and have never had a issue with fitment. I will admit the traction is not the best when driving in wet conditions but that's because these sumitimos are a SUMMER tire. The front tires being taller that the rear actually works out perfect since my car is lowered 1.5 inches in the front and 1 inch lowered in the rear. You absolutely cannot tell the difference, even with stock springs. Like the OP stated, he wanted to lower his car..
I'm just trying to help this man out, you are just trying to prove people wrong. That's the difference between you and me.

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Can you tell a difference? Hmm I sure cant..

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Looks to me like the sidewall is thicker on the front one but what do I know? Fact of the matter is they are not properly sized. And for a performance tire the Sumis suck vs the better compound tires you can get for marginally more money. But again... what do I know?
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Well I do know that on your profile it says that you drive a 2000 mustang gt, so unless that imformation is old or wrong, than maybe you should stick the the 99-04 threads. I'm in this thread because I drive an 06 GT and well, I guess I know a couple of things about the s197. Plain and simple..
And for the record, I am very happy with my sumitomos.

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Year of Mustang does not change how sidewall profiles work or tread compound characteristics.
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Uhh.. Yea.. yea it does. Last time I checked the s197 has different sized wheel well than the new edge. And I'm not going say sumitomo has the best tread compound out there compared to nitto and other brands, but for a DD I think it's just fine. Especially for the moneys worth. All I can say is we all have different opinions on these things. Let the OP decide, but I'm not going to argue over something this ridiculous with someone who doesn't even drive the same year model. I'd like to hear other people's opinion honestly

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I'm not talking about the S197 vs SN95, I know the OEM sizings. Talking about how actual tire sizing works. MM/%/Rim . No matter what you drive.

Too many ppl just trust the AM sizings to be accurate without checking. I hope that is not what happened to you. They also run a 275 front 285 rear that looks wonky on a 9"/10" combo although the tires do fit. Sumis are good in that they offer acceptable traction and last a long time and are cheap.
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The only thing that happened to me is that I saved a lot of money on a wheel and tire kit and now it sets my stang apart from others. I'm not saying I worship AM or anything, because I buy parts from everywhere, not just them, but it seems like you're bashing american muscle alot about things.. you must be a die hard steeda fan.

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I am not a die hard Steeda fan at all. The car I have in my sig I got the deal of a lifetime. Steeda does have some real good Steeda specific stuff but AM is probably the best Mustang specific vendor.


And pointing out that something a vendor sells/does that is not right is not bashing. That tire combo is simply sized incorrectly. And mentioning that Sumis are bottom of the barrel as far as traction goes for a performance tire is not bashing AM either, they do offer other tire options.
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Obviously 1/2" difference is not going to cause ABS issues and that size is not going to rub up front... they still are not sized right and it is noticeable to the eye test which has been my point all along.


If AM had a combo like this that was tripping ABS or causing issues they would revise it or not sell it. They are selling it like this because that's the fattest 18" HTRZII tire that Sumi makes and its "close enough". Correct size is a 285/40/18.
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Well I do know that on your profile it says that you drive a 2000 mustang gt, so unless that imformation is old or wrong, than maybe you should stick the the 99-04 threads. I'm in this thread because I drive an 06 GT and well, I guess I know a couple of things about the s197. Plain and simple..
And for the record, I am very happy with my sumitomos.

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Glad you're happy with your Sumitomos, but Scottydsntknow deserves more respect than that. He's clearly a seasoned member of the forum and if he didn't know about the wheels and stuff, he wouldn't have said anything. Just because he doesn't own an S197 doesn't mean know about the specifications
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Look I'm not someone who thinks I need respect or anything because I'm a longtime member or mod or anything.


I probably came off a little prickish and didn't sound like I was aware that the tire sizing combo would not cause any actual issues with the car besides looks. But having seen this exact combo in person it most definitely IS noticeable and does not look quite right and most people I know would not like a look where the front tire is bigger.
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Glad you're happy with your Sumitomos, but Scottydsntknow deserves more respect than that. He's clearly a seasoned member of the forum and if he didn't know about the wheels and stuff, he wouldn't have said anything. Just because he doesn't own an S197 doesn't mean know about the specifications
Go ahead and defend your boyfriend then. I'm done with this thread. All I was trying to do was help someone. I swear some people on here think they know it all...

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Go ahead and defend your boyfriend then. I'm done with this thread. All I was trying to do was help someone. I swear some people on here think they know it all...

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I just didn't want to read any more of that long-winded argument. The point is, others may have knowledge you don't. And that's sure as hell true for me
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Will a 255/45/18 up front and 295/45/18 out back set up cause issues?


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On a S197 a 255/45/18 is fine up front. A 295/45/18 is 28.3" diameter. There are ppl run run 28s on their S197s without issues... but you'd have to measure everything up.


Note that being an inch fatter out back is going to give you a rake appearance although the big tire in back look is pretty common/popular. You also might trip ABS if you have over an inch difference in tire diameter between the front and back but then again you might not.


And just FYI if you are looking at the Nittos in that size, Tirerack has the Hankook Ventus for like $55 less per tire and that is a really good tire. Shipping isn't free but it'd still be cheaper.
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