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Old 04-06-2013, 11:59 PM   #1
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Radiator hoses?

Have a 65 mustang with a 302 out of a 68 so my question is do I get the upper and lower radiator hoses for a 65 or a 68?
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Have a 65 mustang with a 302 out of a 68 so my question is do I get the upper and lower radiator hoses for a 65 or a 68?
Should get 68, but check your radiator inlet and outlet locations. 67 68 they are to the passenger side of center. You may need a 3 or 4 core radiator anyway.
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My 68 is inlet on top passenger and outlet on lower driver side
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Actually it backwards outlet is on top passenger and inlet is on bottom driver
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My 68 is inlet on top passenger and outlet on lower driver side
Maybe the bottom is more towards center. I just replaced it and the top one moved more towards the center from old one and allowed the fan blade to hit it under hard acceleration due to a separated motor mount. I'll double check location. I put in a 3 row replacing the 2 row, it's a 67, but should be the same.
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Mine is stock as far as i know
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I ordered the replacement from a Mustang place and was surprised that the top inlet moved. Had to replace motor mounts also, which totally sucks on a 67, they changed them and then changed back in 68. You can't buy 67 motor mounts even though they say they fit 65-73. You have to buy new frame brackets and then standard motor mounts fit.
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Well thats annoying i no feel your pain
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Now I have to do more research since I ordered hoes for a 68 and they came in not matching so I had autozone pull up hoses for a 65 and the hoses they have me were suppose to fit a 65 as well so now I'm stuck
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So neither fit?
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So neither fit?
No. The upper hose wasn't long enough for either year they gave me
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So let me get this straight you're trying to connect a 68' 302 to a 65' radiator ?
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So let me get this straight you're trying to connect a 68' 302 to a 65' radiator ?
The radiator that is in the car is from the 65 but last owner swapped out the 289 with a 302. Hoses were already connected but have been corroded so needed replacing which is why I went to get new hoses but can't seem to find the correct ones. Here's a pic before I took it all apart. The new hose they gave me is half of that length
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That top hose looks like the bottom hose on my 68
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I have a l6 by the way
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The radiator that is in the car is from the 65 but last owner swapped out the 289 with a 302. Hoses were already connected but have been corroded so needed replacing which is why I went to get new hoses but can't seem to find the correct ones. Here's a pic before I took it all apart. The new hose they gave me is half of that length
So I have to ask was this an original V8 or did this car come with a 6 in it and someone put the 8 in it? Someplace on the hose there should be a name of the manufacture and the part number of the hose the auto parts store should be able to cross reference them.
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There should be no difference in the thermostat housing location from a 289 to a 302. In 1965 the upper hoses were on opposite sides for a 6 and an 8, but I'm pretty sure he said it originally had the 289. If you have the original (style) radiator for a '65 you should use the '65 V8 hose. If the thermostat housing happens to be a different size hose, get one for a 289.
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I have a l6 by the way
Can you shoot me a pic of what your top hose looks like right now?

And the new hose I have doesn't quite look like the one it your pics either. Ill post a pic of both hoses when I get the chance later today
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My sons 67 289, has the water pump hose come out on the passenger side, it doesn't wrap around like your I6

I can get a pic at lunch
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Here's a pic from a 67 with a 289.
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Here's a pic from a 67 with a 289.
That's exactly how my upper hose is set up. Once I'm wrap up here at work ill post the comparison from old hose to new one
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Yeah, my upper looks more like an S shape, same as Aggies but the upper they gave me looks like yours travis
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---------- Post added at 05:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:37 PM ----------

Id ask for a lower rad hose fir a 68 l6 and see compare the two
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Here's the old and new
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Here's a pic from a 67 with a 289.
Wow it is clean. I thought there was supposed to be a shroud around the fan. If not OSHA must be going nuts about the safety hazard
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Wow it is clean. I thought there was supposed to be a shroud around the fan. If not OSHA must be going nuts about the safety hazard
I've been replacing front suspension and brakes, haven't got to a shroud yet. Every time I crank it with the hood up, the OSHA Prius circles the neighborhood. Lol
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You cant just take your old hose to the parts store and have them match it up?
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You cant just take your old hose to the parts store and have them match it up?
Nope. Brought it to Reilly's napa and autozone and they couldn't match it up to anything in the back and with no part number on the hose, cross reference is out of the question too. Flex hoses wouldn't work either because they won't bend enough times to form the required shape of the old hose. Only option now is to buy a new radiator unless someone on here has encountered this problem with a different motor swap as well
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Nope. Brought it to Reilly's napa and autozone and they couldn't match it up to anything in the back and with no part number on the hose, cross reference is out of the question too. Flex hoses wouldn't work either because they won't bend enough times to form the required shape of the old hose. Only option now is to buy a new radiator unless someone on here has encountered this problem with a different motor swap as well
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The 289 or 302 engines from 1968 are the same thing for the most part. With that said was your car an original 289 or was it a I6 that someone in the past put a V8 in? If it was an I6 and they just made it fit the radiator is to small for the engine and should be replaced. If it is an original 289 car then the hoses from the 1965 289 should fit. Take you VIN and get it decoded this will show you what engine it should have had.

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The 289 or 302 engines from 1968 are the same thing for the most part. With that said was your car an original 289 or was it a I6 that someone in the past put a V8 in? If it was an I6 and they just made it fit the radiator is to small for the engine and should be replaced. If it is an original 289 car then the hoses from the 1965 289 should fit. Take you VIN and get it decoded this will show you what engine it should have had.

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It was an original 289. Only thing I can think of was someone had to have swapped out the old radiator and put this one in its place. Because both hose fittings on the current radiator are on opposite sides.
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You could try looking online at mustangs part stores and seeing if theres a radiator that looks the same and then call the store and see what hose the offer for that radiator/engine combo
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The radiator that is in the car is from the 65 but last owner swapped out the 289 with a 302. Hoses were already connected but have been corroded so needed replacing which is why I went to get new hoses but can't seem to find the correct ones. Here's a pic before I took it all apart. The new hose they gave me is half of that length
Hey looking at this picture a little harder this morning. If you look at Aggies photo yours and his look the same. The top hose of the radiator comes out on the passenger side and the thermostat is on the same side of the engine. If so you have a different hose on yours then he does. Measure how far it is from the front of your engine at the thermostat housing to the radiator in a straight line. Aggie if you could do the same thing. I am thinking the radiator support is further away from the front of the engine on the 65 and that is what is causing you the problem. Also look on your heads and see if you can find a part number that reads like 8Cxxxxxx The 8 stands for year the C stands for decade. So an 8C would be a 68 part number a 5C would be a 65 an 3D would be a73 etc.
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Hey looking at this picture a little harder this morning. If you look at Aggies photo yours and his look the same. The top hose of the radiator comes out on the passenger side and the thermostat is on the same side of the engine. If so you have a different hose on yours then he does. Measure how far it is from the front of your engine at the thermostat housing to the radiator in a straight line. Aggie if you could do the same thing. I am thinking the radiator support is further away from the front of the engine on the 65 and that is what is causing you the problem. Also look on your heads and see if you can find a part number that reads like 8Cxxxxxx The 8 stands for year the C stands for decade. So an 8C would be a 68 part number a 5C would be a 65 an 3D would be a73 etc.
It's not the top I'm concerned about. Our hoses do look the same but if you take a look at his bottom hose, it's also on the passenger side where as my bottom hose is on the drivers side so it has a longer distance it needs to travel as oppose to Aggies lower hose
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No. The upper hose wasn't long enough for either year they gave me
Sorry this is what I was going by. Did you get the top hose to fit?
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