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Old 11-26-2013, 09:43 PM   #36
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I can't find my wd40 dde21dde21dde21dde21
I've got a can in my trunk, come and get it
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Bolts on the head will not come out.....
Any tips?
Leave the socket on the head bolts and smack it about a dozen or so times it shocks the threads and breaks loose corrosion. Take your breaker bar and get tension on it and then make a tight fist around the breaker bar and try to act like your "jab punching" till it cracks loose. Usually works like a dream.
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I actually do have a can in the trunk of my car. My driver door likes to start squeaking every few weeks.
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:19 PM   #41
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Leave the socket on the head bolts and smack it about a dozen or so times it shocks the threads and breaks loose corrosion. Take your breaker bar and get tension on it and then make a tight fist around the breaker bar and try to act like your "jab punching" till it cracks loose. Usually works like a dream.
I'm gonna buy a breaker bar tomorrow.. Like I said at the beginning.
I don't have many tools...
I have up on the heads.
So I flipped the motor around and took the oil pan off
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Let me just say its worth buying the good tools first buy the craftsmen or snap on if you can youll thank me in the long run. The cheap tools will break or bend and not be the right shape anymore and you will strip bolts
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Let me just say its worth buying the good tools first buy the craftsmen or snap on if you can youll thank me in the long run. The cheap tools will break or bend and not be the right shape anymore and you will strip bolts
Nothing beats craftsman lifetime warranty. If it breaks you get a new one for free.
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Let me just say its worth buying the good tools first buy the craftsmen or snap on if you can youll thank me in the long run. The cheap tools will break or bend and not be the right shape anymore and you will strip bolts
+1 quality is key. Its funny how many people that use my snap on phillips head drivers and are amazed on quality difference between what they are used to. Thats just something as small as a screw driver.

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Also, check craigslist and pawn stores. A lot of people are still hard up for cash and getting rid of quality items cheap.
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Sometimes you can find broken craftsman tools at garage sales, then return them to Sears for new ones.
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+1 quality is key. Its funny how many people that use my snap on phillips head drivers and are amazed on quality difference between what they are used to. Thats just something as small as a screw driver. ---------- Post added at 12:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:01 AM ---------- Also, check craigslist and pawn stores. A lot of people are still hard up for cash and getting rid of quality items cheap.
Tell me about it
Got about 1k in tools for 170..
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Sometimes you can find broken craftsman tools at garage sales, then return them to Sears for new ones.
Been there done that lol
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I have like four sockets that i need to trade in
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I do not recommend using a breaker bar, u will break the bolt. Use wd40 or equivalent and an impact wrench is best. U can use a torch if an impact wrench doesnt work. Other wise just keep it soaked in wd40 and use a closed hex wrench or hex socket.
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I do not recommend using a breaker bar, u will break the bolt. Use wd40 or equivalent and an impact wrench is best. U can use a torch if an impact wrench doesnt work. Other wise just keep it soaked in wd40 and use a closed hex wrench or hex socket.
Got all the bolts off
Te head isn't coming off
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Oh ya pry bar
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Broke it!!
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Heat works wonders i was surprised how well it worked the first time
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Heat works wonders i was surprised how well it worked the first time
To get the head off itself? If its stuck on hard enough to break a crow bar, i dont think burning the gasket off will help. Theres probably a bolt still in there or it was glued on. Im leaning toward some bracket or something holding it on
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To get the head off itself? If its stuck on hard enough to break a crow bar, i dont think burning the gasket off will help. Theres probably a bolt still in there or it was glued on. Im leaning toward some bracket or something holding it on
Ohh haha i thought he was talking about a bolt just needs a rubber mallet or metal but be carful
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To get the head off itself? If its stuck on hard enough to break a crow bar, i dont think burning the gasket off will help. Theres probably a bolt still in there or it was glued on. Im leaning toward some bracket or something holding it on
I sprayed down some areas with on blaster..
Hit it with a hammer..
And I was usin a little pry bar thing. Maybe a foot long. Not a crow bar..
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Hmmmm
Did u see a little lip between the head and the block, some engines have some spot where u can insert something like a pry bar and sort of get a little leverage and lift up
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Hmmmm Did u see a little lip between the head and the block, some engines have some spot where u can insert something like a pry bar and sort of get a little leverage and lift up
Yea it's got one..
I just need a good pry bar..
On a side note..
How many of you think this motor was a bad buy?
Taking it apart and seeing all the sludge.
Do you think the motor is old? Done for? Damaged?
Of course I still have to get it tested.
I just want opinions :p
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I wouldnt worry about the sludge if you are replacing bearings and all that jazz
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If the block is okay, don't worry about it.
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I wouldnt worry about the sludge if you are replacing bearings and all that jazz
Would it be okay to put in a high lift cam?
Or would I have to replace the rockers and valve springs?
I'm trying to decide if I want to even do the "budget build"
Or if I should just build it over the next couple years.
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Would it be okay to put in a high lift cam? Or would I have to replace the rockers and valve springs? I'm trying to decide if I want to even do the "budget build" Or if I should just build it over the next couple years.
Don't try to bump up one component. It's best to decide if you want a DD, 1/4 mile car or track car. Then size the cam, carb, intake together with the heads. If you don't match them together, it'll never run right.
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Would it be okay to put in a high lift cam?
Or would I have to replace the rockers and valve springs?
I'm trying to decide if I want to even do the "budget build"
Or if I should just build it over the next couple years.
Its going to depend on how much seat pressure that "high lift" cam requires and where you stand now.

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Cam card will also tell you what rocker ratio to use.
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Its going to depend on how much seat pressure that "high lift" cam requires and where you stand now. ---------- Post added at 11:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:46 PM ---------- Cam card will also tell you what rocker ratio to use.
So in other words.
It's best to wait till I build it before I start tinkering around with that stuff.
I'm gonna go ahead and tell y'all.
It's more than likely gonna be a weekend cruiser... That's running on slicks XD

Plan is stroke to 545 up compression to 11.5
Edlebrock heads. (Since these were severely detuned because of smog laws and what not)
And a decent cam..
One question tho.
Why do some people run 2 carbs instead of one?
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So in other words. It's best to wait till I build it before I start tinkering around with that stuff. I'm gonna go ahead and tell y'all. It's more than likely gonna be a weekend cruiser... That's running on slicks XD Plan is stroke to 545 up compression to 11.5 Edlebrock heads. (Since these were severely detuned because of smog laws and what not) And a decent cam.. One question tho. Why do some people run 2 carbs instead of one?
2 times the fuel and more air
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2 times the fuel and more air
So instead of running two, why don't they just run one big one?
I'm trying to understand the methodology here :p
I always thought it looked cool. I had no idea on the benefits tho :p
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Would it be okay to put in a high lift cam? Or would I have to replace the rockers and valve springs? I'm trying to decide if I want to even do the "budget build" Or if I should just build it over the next couple years.
Is worry about getting the motor operational before you up anything.

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So instead of running two, why don't they just run one big one? I'm trying to understand the methodology here :p I always thought it looked cool. I had no idea on the benefits tho :p
It's like how an LS has 2 big valves compared to the 5.0's 4 small valves. The 4 small valves flow better at high rpms than 2 large valves
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So instead of running two, why don't they just run one big one?
I'm trying to understand the methodology here :p
I always thought it looked cool. I had no idea on the benefits tho :p
That's just like the debate of twin turbo vs one big one lol.
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So instead of running two, why don't they just run one big one? I'm trying to understand the methodology here :p I always thought it looked cool. I had no idea on the benefits tho :p
It also helps the air/fuel mix ex: if you get two four barrels theoretically you have one barrel per cylinder also you are spreading where the carbs are so you dont run into running lean on your front and rear cylinders and rich on the middle cylinders
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