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Old 12-06-2013, 03:07 PM   #1
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I put the key in the ignition and turn the key. I then hear a loud buzzing noise. The car will do nothing beyond that. I attempted to jump start the car, but again nothing different. I am looking for a good place to start. I was going to purchase a new battery and decided to wait. I have had trouble with the battery in the past but the car has power so I am unsure. I can describe the noise best by saying it sounds like a beehive. I have a 1965 Mustang with a 289 2bbl. Thank you for your time. - T.P.
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I put the key in the ignition and turn the key. I then hear a loud buzzing noise. The car will do nothing beyond that. I attempted to jump start the car, but again nothing different. I am looking for a good place to start. I was going to purchase a new battery and decided to wait. I have had trouble with the battery in the past but the car has power so I am unsure. I can describe the noise best by saying it sounds like a beehive. I have a 1965 Mustang with a 289 2bbl. Thank you for your time. - T.P.
Look for the ground wire from the negative post make sure it is clean and tight. Next check the selinoid and make sure it is tight and the case is grounded along with all the connections
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:28 PM   #3
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Sounds like a starter to me but hes ^^ right about checking grounds always the best place to start. You can get you starter tested at a lot of autoparts stores
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I would say remove and clean both terminals then check battery state of charge at the terminals. If low charge the battery and try again. A lot of batteries get replaced because of corroded terminals. Just need to be cleaned and recharged. I don't think it will be the starter. Is possible to broad the solenoid with a screwdriver to test it but only if you know what you're doing.
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Check coil
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Curious why you suspect coil?
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Take a DVOM and check voltage at the terminals. Normal battery voltage should be 12.6v on a 12v car battery. If your at 12.6, have someone to turn the key and check voltage drop at the battery.
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Exactly.
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I posted the same saying in the 79-95 electrical thread and it applies here so ill share it again.

I once heard this saying regarding electrical connections and its stuck ever since. Make sure all your connections are "metal to metal, clean and tight, makes it right". Sounds stupid but its a very true statement.
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True. That clicking that's heard is the solenoid. Almost always because there's not enough juice.
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I've had sparks jump between coil and spark plug wires and I had a really bad coil. I've been through a few coils. I think that spark was from bad wires though.
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"clean and tight, makes it right". Sounds stupid but its a very true statement.
That's good dating advice as well.
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That's good dating advice as well.
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---------- Post added at 03:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 PM ----------

I went out today to get started and I found a large puddle of red fluid? On top of everything else I have a transmission leak? Any reason why it would have done that? Please don't tell me I have a transmission issue.
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Hahahaha ---------- Post added at 03:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 PM ---------- I went out today to get started and I found a large puddle of red fluid? On top of everything else I have a transmission leak? Any reason why it would have done that? Please don't tell me I have a transmission issue.
Sounds like a trans leak - might be as simple as a pan gasket. Mine leaks like a sieve, and that's what I'm hoping!
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May sound silly, but if the weather changes, dissimilar materials expand and contract at different rates. Maybe the pan gasket is leaking. I have experienced the same thing.
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Did you actually get it started? That's weird to have a tranny leak from just trying to start it.
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I had one and the car had not been started for 2 months. All I did was replace the gasket
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I finally got some of the parts ordered. I have been fooling around with a 1959 Cadillac for the last month. I still need to correct my engine overheating. I put a brand new radiator on and still can't sit idle for more than 4 minutes before the gauge goes red. I am considering a shroud fan, but how much is that really going to help? I have been looking at getting a new pan gasket as suggested. What did you guys spend on the replacement?
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I finally got some of the parts ordered. I have been fooling around with a 1959 Cadillac for the last month. I still need to correct my engine overheating. I put a brand new radiator on and still can't sit idle for more than 4 minutes before the gauge goes red. I am considering a shroud fan, but how much is that really going to help? I have been looking at getting a new pan gasket as suggested. What did you guys spend on the replacement?

Shrouds actually help a lot it creates a little vacuum
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I finally got some of the parts ordered. I have been fooling around with a 1959 Cadillac for the last month. I still need to correct my engine overheating. I put a brand new radiator on and still can't sit idle for more than 4 minutes before the gauge goes red. I am considering a shroud fan, but how much is that really going to help? I have been looking at getting a new pan gasket as suggested. What did you guys spend on the replacement?
OK I am lost on this thread.

Did you get the engine running?

If so it appears you are now chasing an overheating problem.
If so pop the radiator cap and get a good thermostat to place in the opening see how hot the water really gets don't depend on a gauge in the car.

A few things can make it over heat don't just run off and buy all of them unless you have a lot of money to toss away.

Bad Thermostat
Bad water pump
Not enough directed air (Shroud)
Timing
Valves to tight
Bad gauge
Bad wire from sensor to gauge
bad sensor

To really see if it is over heating do the above steps and read the numbers yourself from the water if I am reading your statements correctly you are saying it over heats in 4 minutes. If so that is really fast and I would suspect a bad gauge or sensor especially in this cold weather. Maybe a bad wire but that would be the least likely.

Get a meat thermometer like this one for the garage they work great and is big enough to read even by an old guy like me.

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I replaced the solenoid easy enough. Unfortunately it didn't change anything. Still not turning, still getting a grinding noise. I am taking the battery over to get tested now. It's a gold battery no more than three years old. I had the radiator, engine not starting, and transmission fluid pour out all in the same month.
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Thats all parts of owning a classic did you make sure the solenoid had a good ground?
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Yeah, I know. I'm not complaining. This is not my first classic, nor will it be my last. Yes, went through every wire and connection on it.
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Although, now that I think about it. My 1966 Newport didn't have a single problem in all the years I owned it.
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I replaced the solenoid easy enough. Unfortunately it didn't change anything. Still not turning, still getting a grinding noise. I am taking the battery over to get tested now. It's a gold battery no more than three years old. I had the radiator, engine not starting, and transmission fluid pour out all in the same month.
You need to pull the starter and test it. If you're getting a grinding sound, you could have chewed up teeth on the starter or flex plate.

Also did you figure out the tranny issue with leaking? It's possible have you have a loose drain bolt on your torque converter. That could prevent the engine from turning over and allow fluid to leak out.

Can you move the engine by hand? If you can, then you remove the tranny inspection plate and check the converter bolts. But I would pull the starter first.
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Doing it now. Thanks for the direction.
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I took the battery to my local auto parts store. The battery is in fact bad. I am taking it to another store to get a discount on my new one. I will update when I have replaced it.
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