Engine cutting out - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 4 Cylinder | V6 | Classic Mustangs || Tech and Talk > Classic Mustangs



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 02-18-2014, 03:04 AM   #1
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Engine cutting out

So as many of you guys know i have a 68 with a l6. If i try to turn hard or floor it with the wheels cranked ( like to try to do a dough nut) it just dies no sputter or anything just shuts off. Any ideas?
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-18-2014, 11:06 AM   #2
Registered Member
Regular
 
LukeRailey68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Owens Cross Roads
Region: Alabama
Posts: 244
Hmmm is that from running rich?

---------- Post added at 11:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:05 AM ----------

Happens to me too
LukeRailey68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 01:19 PM   #3
Registered Member
Regular
 
Aggiesrok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bryan
Region: Texas
Posts: 1,883
Does it happen if you turn hard right or left? Or just in one direction. Since you've got an I6, is your carb mounted sideways as far as the fuel bowl goes? It seems like you may have a fuel bowl float problem and lateral force causes a flood or super lean problem. Only thing I can think of at the moment.
__________________
chevy runs deep, Don't step in chevy!

289 - Holley 4150 570cfm; Performer intake; mild cam; MSD HEI; 302 heads; Roller Tips; Hedman Tri-Y headers; H-pipe w/Flowmaster 40's; 9 in posi 3.50; 205/50-17F; 225/50-17R.
Aggiesrok is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-18-2014, 02:10 PM   #4
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
It happens both ways
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 03:00 PM   #5
Registered Member
Regular
 
ER12883's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Region: Colorado
Posts: 679
Does the same happen if you turn it full lock but at a crawl? That would rule out a fuel bowl problem. Power steering or manual?
ER12883 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 03:16 PM   #6
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Manual and only if i floor it
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 04:51 PM   #7
Registered Member
Regular
 
BA68 mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 331
Could it be a loose electrical connection somewhere? I'm just throwing out ideas
BA68 mustang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 04:56 PM   #8
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Iv thought so but if it was it would seem like every time id go over a bump or into a drive way it would cut out but it doesn't i guess this just another reason to get a v8 haha
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:00 PM   #9
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
Does this only occur while you're turning?
If you mash the pedal in a straight line does the engine die as well?
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:01 PM   #10
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Only while turning its fine in a straight line
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:03 PM   #11
Registered Member
Regular
 
BA68 mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 331
Hahahaha I like the way you think. When you step up to a v8 put a OD trans and steeper gears in it. I have a 68 coupe with a warmed up 289 and a c4 with 2.79 gears and well let's say that it barks harder than it bites 😢
BA68 mustang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:05 PM   #12
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Ha yeah im thinking a 351 or f it and get a big block haha it depends on when i can get it and for how much. Im taking machining classes at school and i can do all the work
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:13 PM   #13
Registered Member
Regular
 
BA68 mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 331
Lucky you, I wish my school had a machine shop. I would go with a 302 with the kasse p38 heads if I had the money
BA68 mustang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:21 PM   #14
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyoung68 View Post
Ha yeah im thinking a 351 or f it and get a big block haha it depends on when i can get it and for how much. Im taking machining classes at school and i can do all the work
Id look into building a FE engine for your car... 390 or 428. They're getting hard to find though.

So what have you done to the car since this started to happen? I know that you recently had the engine out didn't you?
If it justs dies cold, it sounds like its probably electrical. Go through and double check EVERYTHING! After that, start jiggling wires while the engine is running and see if you can make the engine die.
I'm guessing that after it dies while turning that it starts right back up like nothing happened,
Remember: 46 year old cars have 46 year old wiring...
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:32 PM   #15
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Engine cutting out

The engine was just out but it did it before too and the wiring is actually new i think its just not getting enough fuel or too little. And i think thats what im going to do. I mean everyone has a 302 not many can say the have 390ci or higher
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 05:55 PM   #16
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyoung68 View Post
The engine was just out but it did it before too and the wiring is actually new i think its just not getting enough fuel or too little. And i think thats what im going to do. I mean everyone has a 302 not many can say the have 390ci or higher
FE's are very light engines for being cast iron. As a matter of fact, the modular engines are cast the same as the old FE's.

I would expect there to be some sputtering if this was fuel related, but check your float level in the carburetor and you might also make sure that the accelerator pump on the carburetor is functioning properly.
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 08:37 PM   #17
Registered Member
Regular
 
Aggiesrok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bryan
Region: Texas
Posts: 1,883
Go for a 351, not too heavy and parts are easy to get.


Your problem must be fuel related, since it's based on inertia. It must be the carb, because any other fuel interruption would not be instant, because of the fuel in the bowl. Unless your coil or coil wire are loose. But then it seems unlikely that it would restart each time right away.
__________________
chevy runs deep, Don't step in chevy!

289 - Holley 4150 570cfm; Performer intake; mild cam; MSD HEI; 302 heads; Roller Tips; Hedman Tri-Y headers; H-pipe w/Flowmaster 40's; 9 in posi 3.50; 205/50-17F; 225/50-17R.
Aggiesrok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 10:31 PM   #18
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Ill probably end up getting a 351 is there a best year to get? Like are the blocks better from any years ?
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:10 PM   #19
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
Cleveland
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:18 PM   #20
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Quote:
Originally Posted by straybullitt View Post
Cleveland

Why Cleveland?
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:33 PM   #21
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
The Cleveland or 335 series engines were considered the factory hot rods while they were in production. It's this series that the Boss 302 and Boss 351 were based on. They basically had excellent flowing heads for their time.
The Windsors were considered the workhorses.
Nowadays, the aftermarket heads for the Windsor are better than the Cleveland.

But if you wanted to build a true Boss 302 or 351... gotta have a Cleveland.
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:40 PM   #22
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Quote:
Originally Posted by straybullitt View Post
Cleveland

Why Cleveland?
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:42 PM   #23
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Hmmmmm well which one has more power stock and which can handle more power
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:49 PM   #24
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
The Windsor.
It has better aftermarket support. The Cleveland has been out of production since the early eighties.

Just trying to throw out some different ideas. ..
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:51 PM   #25
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Hmmmmm well which one has more power stock and which can handle more power

---------- Post added at 09:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 PM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyoung68 View Post
Hmmmmm well which one has more power stock and which can handle more power

Im really getting tired of this new app -.-
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:53 PM   #26
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
Haha.
I've just been using the regular website.
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 11:55 PM   #27
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
But theres a 5.0 block for 75 on cl sooooo that might have to do for a little
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 12:08 AM   #28
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,418
That's why a Windsor is the most practical choice. They're dime-a-dozen. You'd pay good money just for a rebuildable FE or Cleveland core, although, I have seen them at Pick and Pull from time to time. In trucks.
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 12:10 AM   #29
ME Bloodhound
Staff
 
Soccerluvr4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sacramento/Bay Area
Region: California
Posts: 14,672
Big block!!
__________________

Bullitt build paused pending graduation

HID end all thread
Soccerluvr4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 12:57 AM   #30
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Why cant everything just be free
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 08:34 AM   #31
Registered Member
Regular
 
Aggiesrok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bryan
Region: Texas
Posts: 1,883
Heads are everything. Find the block size you want and throw away the heads. Then get some great flowing heads and build it all from the ground up, matching all the components to work best together: cam, heads, carb, intake, valve train, etc.

Or you could just order a coyote crate engine. It's a big $ hit at once, but you're done.
__________________
chevy runs deep, Don't step in chevy!

289 - Holley 4150 570cfm; Performer intake; mild cam; MSD HEI; 302 heads; Roller Tips; Hedman Tri-Y headers; H-pipe w/Flowmaster 40's; 9 in posi 3.50; 205/50-17F; 225/50-17R.
Aggiesrok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 12:30 PM   #32
Registered Member
Regular
 
ER12883's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Region: Colorado
Posts: 679
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggiesrok View Post
Or you could just order a coyote crate engine. It's a big $ hit at once, but you're done.

If you're cool saying adios to your shock towers - but at that point a suspension upgrade is pretty much mandatory.
ER12883 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 02:57 PM   #33
Registered Member
Regular
 
Aggiesrok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bryan
Region: Texas
Posts: 1,883
Quote:
Originally Posted by ER12883 View Post

If you're cool saying adios to your shock towers - but at that point a suspension upgrade is pretty much mandatory.
Awesome is never cheap or easy.

http://rcmotorsportsinc.com/rc-107-a...rsion-package/
__________________
chevy runs deep, Don't step in chevy!

289 - Holley 4150 570cfm; Performer intake; mild cam; MSD HEI; 302 heads; Roller Tips; Hedman Tri-Y headers; H-pipe w/Flowmaster 40's; 9 in posi 3.50; 205/50-17F; 225/50-17R.
Aggiesrok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 04:02 PM   #34
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tyoung68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: concord
Region: California
Posts: 3,475
Ha oh believe me iv looked at a new coyote but being a broke college student working at autozone doesn't add up to that kind of money haha
Tyoung68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 04:44 PM   #35
Registered Member
Regular
 
Aggiesrok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bryan
Region: Texas
Posts: 1,883
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyoung68 View Post
Ha oh believe me iv looked at a new coyote but being a broke college student working at autozone doesn't add up to that kind of money haha
I hear ya!


I'd find a 351 block and start socking away heads, intake, etc. you've got a drivable ride now, so you can squirrel away parts as you can.
__________________
chevy runs deep, Don't step in chevy!

289 - Holley 4150 570cfm; Performer intake; mild cam; MSD HEI; 302 heads; Roller Tips; Hedman Tri-Y headers; H-pipe w/Flowmaster 40's; 9 in posi 3.50; 205/50-17F; 225/50-17R.
Aggiesrok is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 4 Cylinder | V6 | Classic Mustangs || Tech and Talk > Classic Mustangs

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gutting cats BadAssStang07 2005-2010 Mustang GT 8 12-07-2013 10:24 AM
Check engine soon light came on? KamzGT Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 27 09-14-2013 05:33 PM
Service Engine Soon Light???? wilson_j307 Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 2 03-03-2012 01:41 PM
Engine swap question!! Tominkc 1996-2004 Mustang GT 1 02-09-2012 01:15 AM
99-04 Mustang GT ENGINE BLOWN!!! HELP!!! FORDGT14 1996-2004 Mustang GT 17 09-16-2011 03:11 PM

» Like Us On Facebook



06:02 AM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.