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Old 03-21-2015, 07:59 PM   #176
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Right. On a fastback, the top driprail stops where the front window and the little rear window meet. Then the second piece wraps around like a boomerang.


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On a coupe it's one solid piece.

Yeah, that works. It would look weird for a FB. Forgive the uncleaned welds.
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Old 03-22-2015, 09:16 AM   #178
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The picture where I am pointing is the point that looks like it was welded from the factory. You can tell on this side that the boomerang part is just hanging on, but the other side is missing completely.

I just found the whole piece in the MustangUnlimited catalog sold as a pair for $160. Don't want to spend that just to cut it up for 8" on one side. Hopefully someone else just sells it by itself.


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Old 03-22-2015, 10:14 AM   #179
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It might be possible to use a length of generic or scrap drip rail trim. If you can, take a close up of the profile. It might be a little hackish, but if the profile is the same, I might be able to see what I can salvage when I do the pass side and see if that might help you out. At least i can save the shape of the rail itself, not so much the flat part that welds to the car. I pretty well mangled the driver side when I took it off...but a lot of it was unusable anyway.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:35 PM   #180
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The picture where I am pointing is the point that looks like it was welded from the factory. You can tell on this side that the boomerang part is just hanging on, but the other side is missing completely.

I just found the whole piece in the MustangUnlimited catalog sold as a pair for $160. Don't want to spend that just to cut it up for 8" on one side. Hopefully someone else just sells it by itself.


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I cut off the most usable sections of the rail. The part that welds to the car is going to be no good after removing it. Get in touch with me if you think it would help out. Click image for larger version

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Quick update. Drilled out the one problem weld, rewelded and wrapped up the last few welds. Got to grinding in the welds, cleaned the upper area (also added the hole into the roof support), and got started on grinding the pillars. Got sick of that, so started removing the passenger side. This side should go a little quicker.

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Old 04-04-2015, 12:10 AM   #182
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I had to say that the pass side would go quicker, didn't I?

So there looks like a "repair" of some kind was made at the base of the A-pillar on the inside. Everything was coming off great, then I hit what seems like a welding and fiberglass mess. The other issue is that I can't fully open the door because of where it's parked, so I can't get the grinder in there to clean things up. My guess is that I'll be making a repair to part of the pillar, but two of the three sides look good, so hopefully it's not a huge mess (I really should have learned to be less optimistic by now). I'll know more once I get the door off and go to town.

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Old 04-04-2015, 12:35 AM   #183
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Yeah, I've pretty much given up on making any kind of estimate with my resto project...there's always something unexpected to pop up and "surprise" you.

But it's so great to see that you're finally making your car "right"...it'll be worth it ten times over in the end.
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Wow!!! YA never know what you might find, I'm probably guilty of over using fiberglass but can't imagine repairing a major structural part of a car with it...guess that's why we call it a project. People ask me all the time " when you think you'll be done" my answer, Don't know, hopefully one day while I can still drive , LOL !!! Keep at it man, great progress!


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In their defense (if it is defendable), it looks like only the one side of the pillar has issues, and they did add extra metal underneath all the fiberglass, but even so, I think I'll add a brace before I start carving it up since there's no roof helping to keep everything rigid.

My original estimate for "completion" was a decade. I'm about two years into ownership, but I parked it and really got serious towards the end of last summer. I'm probably averaging about 3-4 hrs per week...I might not be too far off on the estimate if my wife stays hooked on her bad TV shows (means more garage time for me).
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My original estimate for "completion" was a decade.
A decade? I hope the wife's still talking to you at year 11!

I kid, I kid.
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Someone had asked for an update to my car, so I posted a video on YouTube. So if you have interest in hearing me drone on about my car in my messy garage, here is the link:

http://youtu.be/Cj2lKlCAqfA

I might start doing an occasional update, just for fun, I'm not looking to start a show or anything. I've learned so much from watching other people's videos that maybe someone can find something useful in mine.
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Love it. Keep up the good work


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Thanks! Brief update, removed the door to get in there and cleaned up the repair. Turns out I lucked out and it really is only the part that was between the pillar and drip rail. Got it cut out and cleaned, and made the patch. I've got to get better at picking good lines to cut along, I'm spending a lot of time shaping my patches into these weird shapes. I put some rust converter inside to prevent anything bad from the inside, and then I'll just need to weld it up. The good part of replacing the roof is I have lots of spare sheet metal!

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Old 04-10-2015, 09:20 PM   #190
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A decade? I hope the wife's still talking to you at year 11!



I kid, I kid.

Ha! We've been together a total of ten years...and so far she seems cool with the other woman (car).
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Thanks! Brief update, removed the door to get in there and cleaned up the repair. Turns out I lucked out and it really is only the part that was between the pillar and drip rail. Got it cut out and cleaned, and made the patch. I've got to get better at picking good lines to cut along, I'm spending a lot of time shaping my patches into these weird shapes. I put some rust converter inside to prevent anything bad from the inside, and then I'll just need to weld it up. The good part of replacing the roof is I have lots of spare sheet metal!

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Thanks! Brief update, removed the door to get in there and cleaned up the repair. Turns out I lucked out and it really is only the part that was between the pillar and drip rail. Got it cut out and cleaned, and made the patch. I've got to get better at picking good lines to cut along, I'm spending a lot of time shaping my patches into these weird shapes. I put some rust converter inside to prevent anything bad from the inside, and then I'll just need to weld it up. The good part of replacing the roof is I have lots of spare sheet metal!

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Awesome! Glad it wasn't as bad as you previously thought. Progress is progress, even if it includes hidden surprises and obstacles. I've gotta get back on mine, have had some family problems that needed my attention and is more important at present. So if yall would keep us in your prayers it would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work sir!!

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Old 04-11-2015, 11:03 AM   #193
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Thanks guys.

Family for sure comes first, a car is just a thing after all. A year after I graduated, my apartment complex burned to the ground in the night. I managed to throw on some clothes and got out with my dog, and grabbed a backpack which had my laptop and digital camera in it - my now wife was at her dorm that night working on a paper. Everything else was a total loss (I was a year out of school, so it's not like I owned anything too expensive, but it was still all I had). After that, I realized it's all just stuff, and stuff can be replaced (even cars). But the friends and family and charity who helped us get back on out feet, and literally fed and clothed us when we had nothing - that's where the real value lies.
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Thanks guys.

Family for sure comes first, a car is just a thing after all. A year after I graduated, my apartment complex burned to the ground in the night. I managed to throw on some clothes and got out with my dog, and grabbed a backpack which had my laptop and digital camera in it - my now wife was at her dorm that night working on a paper. Everything else was a total loss (I was a year out of school, so it's not like I owned anything too expensive, but it was still all I had). After that, I realized it's all just stuff, and stuff can be replaced (even cars). But the friends and family and charity who helped us get back on out feet, and literally fed and clothed us when we had nothing - that's where the real value lies.

Well said brother! Fire is a devastating thing, and you're correct. Human life is far more important especially family! We never know how much one simple act of kindness can affect someone else, we all need help at some point or another.


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Got the pillar patched. Not my best work, I wish I had cut it before the curve instead of after, it's a little wavy - not by much, but enough to bug me. I might weld it up and put the curve back in...but I might just be over anal about it. I'll sleep on it and readdress it tomorrow. Anyway, most of it will be behind the drip rail, so we will see how crazy I want to get making things perfect.

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Looks great! I don't notice any waviness, but I totally get the whole over-anal thing. I've been known to spend a couple of hours trying to source the correct plastic fastener for my car...LOL.
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Thanks, the waviness is on the corner itself. I'm probably just being too critical. The drip rail butts up against it, and I'm pretty sure seam sealer goes in there too, so it will be completely covered. But lesson learned for future patches: cut before the bend, not after.
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Awesome! Glad it wasn't as bad as you previously thought. Progress is progress, even if it includes hidden surprises and obstacles. I've gotta get back on mine, have had some family problems that needed my attention and is more important at present. So if yall would keep us in your prayers it would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work sir!!

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I've decided that since the wavy part will be covered, to leave it be. I got the pass side drip rail welded in place and test fitted the roof with the new drip rails. It fits very well, and I think we are almost ready to proceed with the roof! I got a little arts with the video and did a time lapse...

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I've decided that since the wavy part will be covered, to leave it be. I got the pass side drip rail welded in place and test fitted the roof with the new drip rails. It fits very well, and I think we are almost ready to proceed with the roof! I got a little arts with the video and did a time lapse...

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Wow! If I could work that fast I'd be done in a week or so, LOL! Looks really good brother,Great progress! You'll be done with that roof before you know it..

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Wow! If I could work that fast I'd be done in a week or so, LOL! Looks really good brother,Great progress! You'll be done with that roof before you know it..

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Ha! Wouldn't that be nice? That was a little over three hours, and I cut video while I drilled and prepped the new drip rail. There are a couple welds I want to redo, I was having wire feed issues and I'm not happy with them. I'm thinking with a little luck I'll have the roof on before the weekend comes. That's my goal at least - busy weekend and I won't have a ton of time, so I'm hoping to get a lot done during weekdays.
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So the new roof panel does not come with the window trim molding studs welded in. I have been looking around and found these:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/121621848866?nav=SEARCH

Apparently many makes used essentially the same pin stud setup, so you can get screw in replacements. Then I got to thinking, and discovered a 6D common nail has the same shaft diameter, but a slightly larger head. If you're familiar with my brand of crazy, this shouldn't surprise you that I tried this. It seems to work, I'm just wondering if I want to do this a dozen more times...thoughts? Too much effort?

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I forget where but I've seen those little nipples being sold somewhere and then you use a stud welder to attach them I'll see if can find them
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Cool, I'll keep looking, thanks. I'll see what I can find and what it takes to borrow a stud welder. If it costs anything, I'd probably be better off cutting off nail heads.
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I kinda like the el cheapo Yankee engineering approach, but that's just me.
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Here they are

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Thanks...I think I've decided to go the screw in route. If I decided to weld on down the line, it's easy enough to weld up screw holes, but it's just molding clips, it should be fine.

So before I update on progress, I was running errands and decided to grab some seam sealer. So I go to Advance Auto...
Me: I'm looking for seam sealer.
Guy: I know what it you're looking for, but we don't carry it, try autozone.

So I run down the street to Pep Boys...
Me: I'm looking for seam sealer.
Guy: try Michaels or Hobby Lobby
I explain what seam sealer is...
Guy: oh, I don't know

So then I call autozone...
Me: I'm looking for seam sealer.
Guy: hold on let me look...
Guy: no, we don't have it, try AirGas or a welding supply place.

Does nobody use or know what seam sealer is? I wound up just ordering from Amazon, and I'll wait a couple days.
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