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Old 04-29-2014, 06:49 AM   #1
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I found a 65, need opinions

Is thing to far gone?
No doors...
What is the value?
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Old 04-29-2014, 10:28 AM   #2
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I'm not an expert on this but I'd roughly say between $5000 - $8000.

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I was thinking about....

6,000 as is, if I get the doors it would be about 7,500.00
Its got a little rust on the rear wheel wells, the floorpans have been replaced, the motor and trans needs a rebuild. I have a 5.4, I might drop in it....

Lets hear some more opinions?
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Unless you do the work yourself its not worth it a shop will charge 2x as much as it will be worth to restore it

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looks to far gone to me man imo
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Old 04-29-2014, 10:56 AM   #6
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You got that right.

I don't think its too far, have your tried to find a 65? not many left...
That is the issue, do I have time.
So.... is orginal or mods going to offer the best return?
IE: use the 6cyl+ Trans or drop the 5.4 Triton with a 5 speed ?
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The 5.4 swap is a very lengthy one .. You're goin to have the best luck with a craigslist 5.0 or 351 if you want return in your investment
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Sheet metal is relatively cheap. And to me the price is wayyy to high. Iv seen cars in that condition go for 2-2500 max. I mean i got mine for 800$ and it was completely rusted out but had pretty much everything there
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Sheet metal is relatively cheap. And to me the price is wayyy to high. Iv seen cars in that condition go for 2-2500 max. I mean i got mine for 800$ and it was completely rusted out but had pretty much everything there
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The 5.4 swap is a very lengthy one .. You're goin to have the best luck with a craigslist 5.0 or 351 if you want return in your investment
I already have the 5.4 and an auto trans.
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Sheet metal is relatively cheap. And to me the price is wayyy to high. Iv seen cars in that condition go for 2-2500 max. I mean i got mine for 800$ and it was completely rusted out but had pretty much everything there
If you put your 68' up for sale what do you think you could get?
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If you put your 68' up for sale what do you think you could get?

As is right now? Probably 10-12 but if i fixed the paint and got all the wiring done probably 15-17 and if i did a engine swap maybe low 20s
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I understand you already have the 5.4 but you now need to cut the shock towers, modify the engine mounts, modify the trans tunnel and spend the extra on suspension and electronics and fuel system components- it's doable but like I said - it is a lot of work
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I agree... Price is way too steep.
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Pound for pound the 5.4 will be lighter than a Windsor, not much heavier than a 289 don't ya think?

289 = 514 lbs complete pre alum head
351W (383) = 513 lbs complete.
The 5.4 is glorified Windsor it has the overhead cams but it also has alumnium heads.

With this in mind I dont see why I would need to beef up the front suspension any more than I would for a 289.
Shock tower def need be modified...
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I thought it was a 6
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I would say 18 - 2500 max. As some have stated, sheet metal is relatively cheap. As for the engine swap, that would probably require changing the front end over to a Mustang 2 style front suspension. gets rid of the shock towers and gives you a lot more room to play with for the engine.
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I thought it was a 6
It is now
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No way a coupe in that state is touching 5k. My guess would be $1000-1200 tops if no rust or structural issues, and that's on a good day - at first glance it looks like you're still missing several important parts. Just my opinion.
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So you would need get new suspension and add that to the cost of the swap for a motor that is more expensive to swap in and makes less power in average- it's a possible swap but it sounds like you're going to build a 10-12k car worth. 8k
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I would stick with a pushrod, the 5.4 and wiring would be a lot to handle with all the other stuff you have to do to get this thing in shape. Worth it? The listed prices above seem too steep for me, I'm no expert on classics though. IF you have the time and money it could turn out to be a nice build. For me thats too far gone.
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So you would need get new suspension and add that to the cost of the swap for a motor that is more expensive to swap in and makes less power in average- it's a possible swap but it sounds like you're going to build a 10-12k car worth. 8k

I am certain any suspension is long gone so it would need that anyhow, if I swapped the motor it would be me and my mechanic buddy doing it, I have every thing I need current on the 5.4 in a operational unit now with less than 30k on a crate motor.
The strut tower infringement concerns me and so does that rust on the rear fender, I can only imagine what the rear shock supports look like and those famous weak leaf springs they put on in those years 65-68.
The more I ponder the less I want to take on the task of finding doors, windows ect...
The guy only wants $800 but it would cost $200 to drag it home.
I think all your input as a whole has help push me the side of caution and let this one go.

I do thank you and I will keep the ideas coming as fast yous can come up with answers to bounce off me and I off you.
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If you want a bad *** project go grab a million mile new edge for next to nothing and throw that 5.4 in there
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What do ya mean "million mile new edge" ?
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A high mileage 99-04 mustang for cheap
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:56 PM   #26
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I found a 65, need opinions

Gotcha...
I just can't do the body style of those years, I am of the opinion that Ford fell on their face with designs during that time, the Mustang never looked so bad.
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It's all doable, as I've posted in the past its just time and money. How much of the work can you do to cut the labor expense down? How long do you plan on working on it before you can drive it? Open up a mustang catalog and start making a list of the parts you may need to buy to complete the car. Then see what a good shape running one might cost. Good luck
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