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Old 05-31-2007, 05:32 PM   #1
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Toyota Motor Corp. faces a costly setback in the biggest U.S. vehicle launch in its history after owners of its new Tundra pickup reported engine failures.

The Japanese automaker may recall Tundras equipped with 5.7-liter V-8s to replace the engines, a company spokesman said Wednesday.

The trouble with the Tundra's 5.7-liter engines, the most powerful engine available on the new pickup, is the latest in a series of recalls and problems that have dented Toyota's reputation.

The automaker set the industry standards for vehicle quality, but now seems to be straining to maintain top quality as it expands overseas, builds factories and hires thousands of new workers.

"It's really tough," said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. "Engine failure kills a car's ability to run and it's not a simple thing to fix."

Such a problem is also likely to affect residual values, he said.

Industry experts say Toyota is extremely vulnerable to negative publicity because of its prominence in the industry.

In the first quarter of 2007, Toyota overtook General Motors Corp. to become the world's leading automaker in terms of sales.

With the launch of the Tundra earlier this year, Toyota aims to double its share of the lucrative full-size pickup market, one of the few segments still dominated by the U.S. automakers.

Toyota officials characterize the Tundra launch as the most important introduction in the company's history in the United States.

The rollout has suffered delays and disappointments. For instance, the Tundra earned lower frontal crash scores than domestic rivals such as the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram.

But the engine problem is more damaging and could slow the vehicle's brisk sales momentum.

Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.

Still, Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines, although no injuries have been reported.

Toyota is now studying how many of the 30,000 5.7-liter engines it built are affected

Toyota builds the Tundra pickup at assembly plants in Princeton, Ind., and San Antonio, Texas, and makes the engines in Alabama.

The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 new Tundras this year, compared with 124,508 previous-generation Tundras in 2006.

But U.S. automakers are holding their own in the pickup market, and GM has been successful with its new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks.

In contrast to their performance in the car market, where they have been pushed back by Japanese nameplates, American manufacturers account for more than 90 percent of full-size pickup sales, which totaled 2.2 million units in 2006.
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aww poor yota's. shudda sticked to econoboxes, sport trucks and Supras. leave the big toys to the big boys.
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Just read about this on another forum. That's some good **** right there. Must be that 10,000 lb dead weight cam that broke .


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Many new fullsize pickups only give you 1 good working camshaft, but you wanted at least 3! Introducing the all-new Toyota Tundra. Sweeeeet mercy
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so umm, how do 3 cams work on a V8? Triple Overhead Cam? then that would be 6 cams.......maybe they have sohc with the third cam just hanging out in the middle for ****s and giggles?
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lol, it's the rednecks working at the Toyota plant in Alabama purposely causing engine failure so the tha Chebbys and Fords can remain on top
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lol, it's the rednecks working at the Toyota plant in Alabama purposely causing engine failure so the tha Chebbys and Fords can remain on top
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**** Toyota.

BTW, buying a fullsized Japanese truck is like being gay. Its just really gay... or something. :hmm:
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Its hype... they commercials are misleading as well... they dont tell you that the 10,000lbs they pull includes the weight of the truck and other little details like that they left out.
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lol, it's the rednecks working at the Toyota plant in Alabama purposely causing engine failure so the tha Chebbys and Fords can remain on top
Amen for Alabama Rednecks!
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Its hype... they commercials are misleading as well... they dont tell you that the 10,000lbs they pull includes the weight of the truck and other little details like that they left out.
not to mention the only toyota on that entire set was trailered in just for the shoot, and the rigs and everything else were either built and hauled into location by a ford or a chevy.
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so umm, how do 3 cams work on a V8? Triple Overhead Cam? then that would be 6 cams.......maybe they have sohc with the third cam just hanging out in the middle for ****s and giggles?
It's a DOHC motor. If one cam fails, it equals 3. It was a joke. Thanks for the burst of the bubble...
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I would like to see that one. I know my wife loves her Tundra and quite honestly you cant beat it.
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I would like to see that one. I know my wife loves her Tundra and quite honestly you cant beat it.
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I know my wife loves her Tundra and quite honestly you cant beat it.
Unless you have a F-150, Ram, Silverado, or Sierra. I imagen a Tundra would make a very good ladies vehicle though.
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I have to say, that i have been impressed with the tundra on a few things. But i will stick with my Ford. When they release a 1-ton that can take a helluva beating and still keep running. let me know. cause thats what im looking for in a truck. just ask darkshadow, he know how i roll
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I have to say, that i have been impressed with the tundra on a few things. But i will stick with my Ford. When they release a 1-ton that can take a helluva beating and still keep running. let me know. cause thats what im looking for in a truck. just ask darkshadow, he know how i roll
Yota wont be building a one ton any time soon but funny enough my wifes truck is classifed as a 3/4 ton on the title. I was told they are a rare option from the factory so far I havent met anyone whom has one. As far as racing she wont allow me to race her truck and yeah they do make a great womans truck.
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Yeah I saw drifting my SD the otherday in a slight drizzle man what a blast
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I could swear that the way trucks are rated(1 tone, half ton, etc.) is by the amount that they can carry in the bed of the truck. Now here it was not 10 minutes ago I saw a commercial where they put 1 ton, i.e. 2000 lbs., of stuff in the back of a Tundra. Why would they be rated 3/4 ton, when they are a 1 ton?


Fatty, the Tundra "technically" is a one ton truck.
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Look at the F150 same way Yota is just pushing it more.
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Nah, the 1-ton and all that doesn't refer to how much can be carried in the bed. Cause my 1-ton ford(f-350 single-rear-wheel) can have a little over 4500lbs in the bed on stock tires and suspension.

I'm not really sure where all the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton and 1 ton stuff came from but i do know to which vehicles they refer.
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To howstuffworks.com I go....
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