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Old 08-30-2011, 09:42 AM   #1
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Will the cobra return eventually?

Just A pure cobra, not a Shelby.
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Re: Will the cobra return eventually?

the current one is all cobra lol just has Shelby on the side . I think the Shelby/Ford partnership runs out next year so not sure what we will end up with.
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Lol yeah I understand that but I always looked at carrol Shelby as " special" but the last general release cobra without the Shelby name was 04' but either way I still love em
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the current one is all cobra lol just has Shelby on the side . I think the Shelby/Ford partnership runs out next year so not sure what we will end up with.
The current one is not a cobra...until it says cobra on the window sticker, vin lookup, and possibly somewhere on the car, it is not a cobra.
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The current one is not a cobra...until it says cobra on the window sticker, vin lookup, and possibly somewhere on the car, it is not a cobra.
Word. Ready for Shelby to exit and SVT to return.
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Word. Ready for Shelby to exit and SVT to return.
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The current one is not a cobra...until it says cobra on the window sticker, vin lookup, and possibly somewhere on the car, it is not a cobra.
It also does not say Mustang on the window sticker, does that mean it is not a Mustang.
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Word. Ready for Shelby to exit and SVT to return.
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't SVT have a part in the cars.
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Word. Ready for Shelby to exit and SVT to return.
Agreed!
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It also does not say Mustang on the window sticker, does that mean it is not a Mustang.
In my mind, yes. Just like cobras stopped being mustangs once they became cobras. I don't say I own a mustang when asked, I simply answer 03 cobra. I'm sure most GT500 owners don't say they own a shelby mustang gt500 either.

I know that argument is not going to hold much water since my window sticker does say mustang on it (see example below). But I still don't consider them mustangs...it is a cobra. Just like I don't consider yours a mustang either...it's a GT500. Although, the GT500 window sticker does make mention to mustang as well...just not prominently like on the 03 cobra stickers. (see sample 2 below)



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Re: Will the cobra return eventually?

Acutally what is funny, mine does not even show Mustang on it like the 07 windows sticker.
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If I'm not mistaken, doesn't SVT have a part in the cars.
they just built it~ and did everything~
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If I'm not mistaken, doesn't SVT have a part in the cars.
They have EVERY part in the car, they designed and built it. Shelby just gets to put their name on it. Now the Shelby GT and Supersnakes are different, they actually shipped to shelby for modification.

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In my mind, yes. Just like cobras stopped being mustangs once they became cobras. I don't say I own a mustang when asked, I simply answer 03 cobra. I'm sure most GT500 owners don't say they own a shelby mustang gt500 either.

I know that argument is not going to hold much water since my window sticker does say mustang on it (see example below). But I still don't consider them mustangs...it is a cobra. Just like I don't consider yours a mustang either...it's a GT500. Although, the GT500 window sticker does make mention to mustang as well...just not prominently like on the 03 cobra stickers. (see sample 2 below)

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Saying its not a Mustang its a Cobra is like saying its not a Mustang its a GT... its a Mustang no matter how you look at it.

I do agree though with the GT500 not being a Cobra but my main thought was for all the ways you can look at it... thats what it is, they just slapped Shelby's name on it and let SVT do all the work on what would have been the new Cobra.
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Acutally what is funny, mine does not even show Mustang on it like the 07 windows sticker.
That's funny...and even better to support my "not a mustang" belief in my little universe.

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Saying its not a Mustang its a Cobra is like saying its not a Mustang its a GT... its a Mustang no matter how you look at it.
The difference is, it's called a mustang GT. Cobras are called cobras, shelbys called shelbys. Plus, the GT's have "MUSTANG" blazing right across their bumper.

But like i Said, I know that opinion of mine won't hold any water, however, as far as I'm concerned, the shelby and cobra both left the mustang world when they were given their new monikers. But, that's only in my little world.
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But really when you look up the cars they are all classified as a mustang. Regardless of performance level. Sure it's easier to just say 04 cobra or Shelby gt500 but you forget that it's the mustang heritage what we all know and love regardless of level of performance. And also not everyone knows of cobras and gt500s so it's easier just to add the mustang in there. Be proud of what you have, be proud of owning a mustang, be proud of owning history, and be proud of having a bad a** car no matter what
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But really when you look up the cars they are all classified as a mustang. Regardless of performance level. Sure it's easier to just say 04 cobra or Shelby gt500 but you forget that it's the mustang heritage what we all know and love regardless of level of performance. And also not everyone knows of cobras and gt500s so it's easier just to add the mustang in there. Be proud of what you have, be proud of owning a mustang, be proud of owning history, and be proud of having a bad a** car no matter what
+1, couldnt have said it any better.
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But really when you look up the cars they are all classified as a mustang. Regardless of performance level. Sure it's easier to just say 04 cobra or Shelby gt500 but you forget that it's the mustang heritage what we all know and love regardless of level of performance. And also not everyone knows of cobras and gt500s so it's easier just to add the mustang in there. Be proud of what you have, be proud of owning a mustang, be proud of owning history, and be proud of having a bad a** car no matter what
Like I Said, in my little world. However calling them a mustang still doesn't make the GT500 a cobra...so it doesn't matter.
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i see where purevenom is coming from. the mustang is built by ford. not shelby or rouch. if its not built by ford not a true genuine mustang. prob with svt even though there part of ford
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i see where purevenom is coming from. the mustang is built by ford. not shelby or rouch. if its not built by ford not a true genuine mustang. prob with svt even though there part of ford
Shelby didnt build the GT500 though
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i kno its like a subsidary like chevy has hennessey
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i kno its like a subsidary like chevy has hennessey
Hennessy is a independent company that build on multiple manufacturers.
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Sorry there all ford mustang just different models like when unbuy a roush u can either buy it directly from them or but one from ford and shipped to them
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Hennessy is a independent company that build on multiple manufacturers.
damn thats new to me i always heard about hennessy camaros and nothing else
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Hennessey is most famous for their twin turbo vipers that actually are faster then a bugatti veyron from 0-200.
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only thing ford about a shelby and rouch is the shell everybody has thier opinion about things mine is if it dont say its a stang then its not a stang but looks like one. its called a contract that ford agreed with and allowed other performance companies to create their version of a mustang
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only thing ford about a shelby and rouch is the shell everybody has thier opinion about things mine is if it dont say its a stang then its not a stang but looks like one. its called a contract that ford agreed with and allowed other performance companies to create their version of a mustang
The shell, motor, suspension, most of the interior is ford. Everything else like bolt ons, tune, body kit and wheels are Shelby designed. They still have to take an already created car and convert it to their vision and stamping their name on it.

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i kno its like a subsidary like chevy has hennessey
Now that I'm thinking about it you are probably thinking of lingenfelter.
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i never heard of them
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i never heard of them
Wow, that kinda shocks me. Look up lingenfelter corvette.
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im not a chevy or anything that deals with chevy person

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damn just saw a vid same kids in a talon try to race one haha
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damn just saw a vid same kids in a talon try to race one haha
Yeah it's a good vid. Lingenfelter is to corvette like Shelby is to mustang.
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it looks the same as a regular one prob just engine and bolt ons. if i wanted to pay that much ill get a viper
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damn thats new to me i always heard about hennessy camaros and nothing else
Hennessy is a HORRIBLE company, do some research... I am amazed they are still in business (well technically they are no they keep shutting down and reopening).... they rip customers off and do horrible things.
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Re: Will the cobra return eventually?

Until the GT500 is gone I don't see a actual Cobra coming any time soon. I mean where would they put it performance wise. If they made it 550hp that would defeat the purpose of having the GT500. If they made it less kinda defeats the GT-Boss. Also Shelby has there hands on the GT500. They helped with it. They are just not knee deep like the Supersnakes.

Also the GT500 has a cobra on it. SO its a Cobra...haha
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Until the GT500 is gone I don't see a actual Cobra coming any time soon. I mean where would they put it performance wise. If they made it 550hp that would defeat the purpose of having the GT500. If they made it less kinda defeats the GT-Boss. Also Shelby has there hands on the GT500. They helped with it. They are just not knee deep like the Supersnakes.

Also the GT500 has a cobra on it. SO its a Cobra...haha
Good points... You kinda just shut everyone down lol
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