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Old 05-04-2012, 11:28 AM   #1
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Gf is looking for a ford!

Need help tho with some questions. First, what year did ford focus's stopped making timing belts, and started making chains in them? Also, what is a good economy car for her? She really wants a mustang, but because of the transmission going bad around 150k miles I don't want to get her that until we are older and can shell out 2 grand to fix it lol. Would like some help guys her budget can get 05-06 and under for the most part.
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Focus looks like after 05 they changed to a chain.. But u can change any year over to a chain .. And my Stang has 165k and trans is strong it's a 5 spd tho
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I have a 07 focus I dd. Leather, cruise, etc. averages 31 mpg and the only issue I've had in 77k miles was the alternator.
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Re: Gf is looking for a ford!

Yah the manual transmissions are much better than the 4R70W autos in the 99-04 mustangs. I'm not sure how much better or worse the AOD-Es in the 94-98's are.

My sister had an 09 fusion for 2 years. Bought it in '10 with 30k miles and just traded it in for another one at 80k. She never had any problems or issues with that car, just maintenance - tires, oil, etc. Got high 20's possibly 30 on the highway and that was with the v6.

I think they started making fusions in 07, so she might be able to find one with fair miles for a good price. They are very reliable and nice cars...I recommend them.
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Yah the manual transmissions are much better than the 4R70W autos in the 99-04 mustangs. I'm not sure how much better or worse the AOD-Es in the 94-98's are.

My sister had an 09 fusion for 2 years. Bought it in '10 with 30k miles and just traded it in for another one at 80k. She never had any problems or issues with that car, just maintenance - tires, oil, etc. Got high 20's possibly 30 on the highway and that was with the v6.

I think they started making fusions in 07, so she might be able to find one with fair miles for a good price. They are very reliable and nice cars...I recommend them.
they started making fusions in06 because my mom has one
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they started making fusions in06 because my mom has one
Even better, the OP preferred the year range to be 05-06.
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Fusion are outta her range, unless they got 200k miles lol. They are fords most dependable car, ratings say. I have a standard stang but at 136k syncros are wearing out, hard to get into first, reverse, and every month it gets harder for second. I know the average life is about 150k for stangs trans, of course can go longer if taken car of, but who knows with previous owners.
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In my 01 I just replaced whole trans cause the synchronizers went out in second and first it only had around 100k but your right depends on how it's been taken care of .. Idk much bout my 00 only have had it for couple months it had 159k when I bought her

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I put 4 engines in my 01 tho lol

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But the 02 style hatch back focus SVTs are sweet my buddy put a supercharger on his talking about fun
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In my 01 I just replaced whole trans cause the synchronizers went out in second and first it only had around 100k but your right depends on how it's been taken care of .. Idk much bout my 00 only have had it for couple months it had 159k when I bought her

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I put 4 engines in my 01 tho lol

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But the 02 style hatch back focus SVTs are sweet my buddy put a supercharger on his talking about fun
She's more into a "cute, sporty looking car that is reliable and gets good gas" not a supercharged focus

Kinda in a hard spot on getting cars tho.. Those focuses having timing belts kinda f'ed her a little :\
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New twin turbo Taurus, it's cute, good mileage and did I mention twin turbo???
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New twin turbo Taurus, it's cute, good mileage and did I mention twin turbo???
And new lol

Does anyone know about the older taurus's? Like 2000-2005? Reliable being the main priority. Some people say they are some don't anyone here have any idea?
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She's more into a "cute, sporty looking car that is reliable and gets good gas" not a supercharged focus

Kinda in a hard spot on getting cars tho.. Those focuses having timing belts kinda f'ed her a little :\
What is wrong with a timing belt out of curiosity?
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And new lol

Does anyone know about the older taurus's? Like 2000-2005? Reliable being the main priority. Some people say they are some don't anyone here have any idea?
Very reliable, and very reliable and very safe ! I've got a friend that has one no issues what so ever. Also- consider the Mercury Sable its the sane car. The Mercury Grand Marquis, Lincoln Town-car, and Ford Crown Vic are good cars. Good Crown Vic's are harder to come by than the Lincoln/ Mercury equivalents.

Mercury Cougar newer one is also not a bad choice, sporty, kinda a chick car.
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Cougars would be a good choice the new body style .. Have had a few friends with them very reliable and sporty.. I had a 99 taurus bough it at an car auction for a grand meant condition never had one problem with it nor never had to change or do anything to it for the two years I had it just oil change drove 60 miles aday for work in it and everything and it get up and go to lol

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What is wrong with a timing belt out of curiosity?
Well timing belts have a tendency to ware down and stretch out over time throwing you car out of timing there fore send parts flying in the old days these days if one breaks your engine has a sensor that shut the engine off like a fail safety
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What is wrong with a timing belt out of curiosity?
You have to change them every 60-100k miles for a whopping 500$ lol

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What about mercury Milan's?
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You have to change them every 60-100k miles for a whopping 500$ lol

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What about mercury Milan's?
The Milan is a Ford Fusion with mercury badging
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I would suggest a very high mileage f150. They can b had for cheap and run for ever. Buy one that was in a fleet, so u know all maintance was done when needed. I've got one with 330,000 mi on it and motor still sounds like new.
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I would suggest a very high mileage f150. They can b had for cheap and run for ever. Buy one that was in a fleet, so u know all maintance was done when needed. I've got one with 330,000 mi on it and motor still sounds like new.
She wants good gas mileage
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She wants good gas mileage
Go with a 4cyl. Fusion , sporty, roomy, great gas mileage, no issues overall great car
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Go with a 4cyl. Fusion , sporty, roomy, great gas mileage, no issues overall great car
You really can't beat the Fusion. If I had a need for that type of car, I'd own one. The Mercury Milan is the exact same car though.
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You really can't beat the Fusion. If I had a need for that type of car, I'd own one. The Mercury Milan is the exact same car though.
I know the fusion is Fords most reliable car. The fusions are a little outta range tho. We found a Milan with 112k on it she's wanting 5300$. Would I be a good bet to go with?

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Think it has a timing belt tho what's the point of a damn timing belt?!?!?
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You keep skipping the focus idea. Why?
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You keep skipping the focus idea. Why?
Most in Her price range have timing belts.
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And new lol

Does anyone know about the older taurus's? Like 2000-2005? Reliable being the main priority. Some people say they are some don't anyone here have any idea?
Get a older sho
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Fusion are outta her range, unless they got 200k miles lol. They are fords most dependable car, ratings say. I have a standard stang but at 136k syncros are wearing out, hard to get into first, reverse, and every month it gets harder for second. I know the average life is about 150k for stangs trans, of course can go longer if taken car of, but who knows with previous owners.
I had a t45 in my 96 and at 400k km it didn't have any serious issues. A little tough into reverse but the synchros wernt bad. My mach one recieves pretty hard issues and its trans is still great. I just wish I had a 6 speed with a taller final gear.
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I had a t45 in my 96 and at 400k km it didn't have any serious issues. A little tough into reverse but the synchros wernt bad. My mach one recieves pretty hard issues and its trans is still great. I just wish I had a 6 speed with a taller final gear.
Like I said, some are better than others
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Most in Her price range have timing belts.
You are making way way too big of a deal about this timing belt issue, or non-issue as 99.9% of ppl in the know see it. There are thousands upon thousands of high mileage Focus's(200k+) on stock timing belts. If you find one with 60k-80k all stock, adult owned w/ decent amount of service records(car fax), the chances of having an issue with the timing belt are super slim to zero..
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Yah the manual transmissions are much better than the 4R70W autos in the 99-04 mustangs. I'm not sure how much better or worse the AOD-Es in the 94-98's are.

My sister had an 09 fusion for 2 years. Bought it in '10 with 30k miles and just traded it in for another one at 80k. She never had any problems or issues with that car, just maintenance - tires, oil, etc. Got high 20's possibly 30 on the highway and that was with the v6.

I think they started making fusions in 07, so she might be able to find one with fair miles for a good price. They are very reliable and nice cars...I recommend them.
they made the fusion in 06 a 4 cyl i have one best dd we have ever owned. no problems at resonable price love it

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And new lol

Does anyone know about the older taurus's? Like 2000-2005? Reliable being the main priority. Some people say they are some don't anyone here have any idea?
just sold an 01 had some front axel problems and a few mechanicle but the car was wrecked when we bought it so.

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they made the fusion in 06 a 4 cyl i have one best dd we have ever owned. no problems at resonable price love it

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just sold an 01 had some front axel problems and a few mechanicle but the car was wrecked when we bought it so.
was not to bad to fix either and still got 3000 with 86000 miles on her
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Most in Her price range have timing belts.
Look for an 05-07. Should be plenty of those in that price range. I bought my 07 with 35k on it for 10k out the door. They can't be holding that much value
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You are making way way too big of a deal about this timing belt issue, or non-issue as 99.9% of ppl in the know see it. There are thousands upon thousands of high mileage Focus's(200k+) on stock timing belts. If you find one with 60k-80k all stock, adult owned w/ decent amount of service records(car fax), the chances of having an issue with the timing belt are super slim to zero..
They are recommended to be changed for the focuses at 100-120k miles. It's about 500-700$ to get one changed. Why should I pay that when I can get one with a chain and never pay that. And you can be slow on changing the let's because if they break your motor ones to ****.

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Look for an 05-07. Should be plenty of those in that price range. I bought my 07 with 35k on it for 10k out the door. They can't be holding that much value
They have real high mileage if they are in a 5-6k range. From what we have found at least.
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They are recommended to be changed for the focuses at 100-120k miles. It's about 500-700$ to get one changed. Why should I pay that when I can get one with a chain and never pay that. And you can be slow on changing the let's because if they break your motor ones to ****.

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They have real high mileage if they are in a 5-6k range. From what we have found at least.
The newer motors are interference motors.....?
I still say its really not an issue IMO
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The newer motors are interference motors.....?
I still say its really not an issue IMO
Well I say it's a good thing I think it's an issue because if not, I'd have a v6 eclipse right now instead of my sexy stang! I got a mustang because they have chains, eclipses didn't.
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I haven't read this entire thread so forgive me if someone else pointed this out already, but you change your tires every i dont know, say 90k miles, and that'll cost you at least a few hundred bucks. But you know it's bound to happen, you know? So you save up your cash in anticipation of having to replace the tires. Just regular maintenance you need to put out cash for. If the car has a history of dependability i say go for it regardless if you have to replace it or not, because you know you'll have to at some point. Just the way i look at it, i guess. Sort of the price you pay for reliability.
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I haven't read this entire thread so forgive me if someone else pointed this out already, but you change your tires every i dont know, say 90k miles, and that'll cost you at least a few hundred bucks. But you know it's bound to happen, you know? So you save up your cash in anticipation of having to replace the tires. Just regular maintenance you need to put out cash for. If the car has a history of dependability i say go for it regardless if you have to replace it or not, because you know you'll have to at some point. Just the way i look at it, i guess. Sort of the price you pay for reliability.
Every car has tires, not every car has timing belts. So why not find something that you don't have to pay that extra on, but is still reliable. I mean toyota didn't change to timing chains for no reason, it's because people got tired of dishin that money out every 60k miles.
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