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Old 07-02-2012, 09:09 PM   #1
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So this is my first car. I've owned it for about 15 years. I don't really drive it anymore. I'm saving it for my son. It's been parked all year. I decided to fire it up and take it for a ride the other day but couldn't because the clutch pedal is seized. It won't go up or down. This has happened in the past once before but after jumping on the clutch pedal a couple of times it broke loose and I was able to drive it fine. Now, it won't budge at all. I haven't tried anything yet. The clutch, pressure plate and TOB is about 3 years old. The slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder is about 6 years old. The last thing I want to do is pull the transmission yet again! How can I test the rest of the clutch system before I pull the clutch?

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Btw, before you break my balls about it not being a mustang, let me just say the 240sx forum is full of idiots and all they talk about there is being hellaflush and SR motors. I value my mustang brother and sisters information more then those guys... Plus I got banned from that forum a few years ago. hehe.
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So this is my first car. I've owned it for about 15 years. I don't really drive it anymore. I'm saving it for my son. It's been parked all year. I decided to fire it up and take it for a ride the other day but couldn't because the clutch pedal is seized. It won't go up or down. This has happened in the past once before but after jumping on the clutch pedal a couple of times it broke loose and I was able to drive it fine. Now, it won't budge at all. I haven't tried anything yet. The clutch, pressure plate and TOB is about 3 years old. The slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder is about 6 years old. The last thing I want to do is pull the transmission yet again! How can I test the rest of the clutch system before I pull the clutch?

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Btw, before you break my balls about it not being a mustang, let me just say the 240sx forum is full of idiots and all they talk about there is being hellaflush and SR motors. I value my mustang brother and sisters information more then those guys... Plus I got banned from that forum a few years ago. hehe.
Haha, I guess we are pretty cool.

I can't imagine why you would get banned though, maybe you were just too awesome for them and they knew it so they were jealous.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:12 PM   #3
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i would guess the tob is sticking. that is of course without knowing anything about this car. is there any type of ispection cover on the clutch/bell pusing area that you can look into?
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Nah, the bell housing mates up to the engine. And the plate wraps around the whole bell housing. So I can't see anything.

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Haha, I guess we are pretty cool.

I can't imagine why you would get banned though, maybe you were just too awesome for them and they knew it so they were jealous.
I told a mod he could suck my ****. Haha.
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Nah, the bell housing mates up to the engine. And the plate wraps around the whole bell housing. So I can't see anything.

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I told a mod he could suck my ****. Haha.
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I think I'm going to open the bleeder on the slave cylinder. If that gets my pedal moving I guess that means my clutch master cylinder isn't seized up. I have a sinking feeling that my TOB is stuck. Because the pedal is mostly up but I can shift through the gears while the engine is running like the clutch is being applied.
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do you remember what kind of shape the journal that the tob rides on was in? alot of time the aluminum ones scar up easy causing the tob to hang.
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Nah, the bell housing mates up to the engine. And the plate wraps around the whole bell housing. So I can't see anything.

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I told a mod he could suck my ****. Haha.
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Haha, I guess we are pretty cool.

I can't imagine why you would get banned though, maybe you were just too awesome for them and they knew it so they were jealous.
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Honestly if if doesnt free up on it's own after leaving the car running at idle for a while it sounds like you will need to take it apart. Try shifting through the gears if possible, even letting it jump and stall out could free it up. Maybe try kicking the pedal but that's your own risk.
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I've tried voting through the gears while the engine is running and it goes in as if the clutch is pushed in. But yet the pedal is not being pushed in and it won't go down.

I've had my son press as hard as he can while I watched the slave cylinder and I can see the rubber hose that is connected to the slave cylinder flex like its getting pressurized but the slave cylinder doesn't move.

I imagine either the slave cylinder is seized up or the TOB is jammed up.

This transmission I took out of a donor car, I did the swap at night so I didn't really get a good look at the inner shaft. I did grease the hell out of it however.

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We all know you're cool bro. Lol
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I've tried voting through the gears while the engine is running and it goes in as if the clutch is pushed in. But yet the pedal is not being pushed in and it won't go down.

I've had my son press as hard as he can while I watched the slave cylinder and I can see the rubber hose that is connected to the slave cylinder flex like its getting pressurized but the slave cylinder doesn't move.

I imagine either the slave cylinder is seized up or the TOB is jammed up.

This transmission I took out of a donor car, I did the swap at night so I didn't really get a good look at the inner shaft. I did grease the hell out of it however.

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We all know you're cool bro. Lol
Ha! Thx, though maybe not so cool on this thread as I'm not tranny smart.

I wonder if moisture settled in the slave cylinder and can't move due to light rust. Can the fluid settle enough for that to happen?
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:12 AM   #13
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That's defiantly a possibility. When the car was parked in the backyard we had some heavy rains and the car was in about 12" of water at one point. But the water had receded by the time I got home. The carpet wasn't wet so I figured it hadn't gotten too flooded. Grrrrrrr I guess I'm gonna have to pull it apart to find out.
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Here's hoping it just needs to be freed up and nothing needs to be replaced
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Thanks. But if I've gotta pull it apart I'm replacing everything! Haha, it used to be my Drift car back when I was a cool kid in the late 90's I've been through so many transmissions it's not even funny. Back then, I had the energy to be crawling under that car all the time. Now I prefer new muscle with air conditioning. Lol
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Thanks. But if I've gotta pull it apart I'm replacing everything! Haha, it used to be my Drift car back when I was a cool kid in the late 90's I've been through so many transmissions it's not even funny. Back then, I had the energy to be crawling under that car all the time. Now I prefer new muscle with air conditioning. Lol
Air conditioning is the bomb

My son always looks at me like I'm gonna flop over dead when I'm working on my car in the heat
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I know! I was doing yard work the other day and it's been like 105* all week! The garbage man going by just about passed out under the tree in my neighbors yard. It's been unbearable lately. I hope for a long cold winter because it doesn't snow down here.
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