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Old 02-04-2014, 08:15 PM   #1
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Is it possible to get unbiased opinions on the old 5.0 vs LT1 debate?

If there are a few on here who could give some honest unbiased opinions to help me out, I have a 5.0 vs LT1 scenario I need help with.
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That's kind of vague... Can you elaborate?
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I think He means to get advice on which is better for what he wants to do, without starting an argument and also without getting people to just promote the 5.0 cuz it's ford, etc.
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If there are a few on here who could give some honest unbiased opinions to help me out, I have a 5.0 vs LT1 scenario I need help with.
LT1 is faster is they are both stock....
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Is it possible to get unbiased opinions on the old 5.0 vs LT1 debate?

Buddy of mine had a 1995 5.0, at the time I just bought my 93 z28 my car would smoke his car, my car only had a tune, both cars were auto, and he had some bolt ins and 4.10s
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Ok I the next week I will be buying a daily driver/toy to play with. And I've narrowed it down to an 88 gt 124000 miles still speed density, cobra upper and lower intake, 5 speed, larger throttle body, 4:10 gears, headers and H pipe, clean inside and out good looking car. OR a 96 formula firebird new aluminum head LT1 and a freshly rebuilt auto trans with a shift kit, CAI, bbk headers and throttle body. Also a decent looking car.

Now my plans for the car will be a daily driver that I can take to the track every once in a while. I would be modding the cars, full bolt ons and maybe some inside motor work as money permits.

And before everyone says it, yes I would be doing the maf conversion on the mustang I I got it.

All opinions appreciated.
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Buddy of mine had a 1995 5.0, at the time I just bought my 93 z28 my car would smoke his car, my car only had a tune, both cars were auto, and he had some bolt ins and 4.10s
Your LT1 also had 50 more cubes...
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I think He means to get advice on which is better for what he wants to do, without starting an argument and also without getting people to just promote the 5.0 cuz it's ford, etc.
Yes this is exactly what I'm looking for.
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Is it possible to get unbiased opinions on the old 5.0 vs LT1 debate?

[QUOTE=sawyers_15;1941162]Yes this is exactly what I'm looking
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Hate to say it, but ...the Firebird...
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Ok I the next week I will be buying a daily driver/toy to play with. And I've narrowed it down to an 88 gt 124000 miles still speed density, cobra upper and lower intake, 5 speed, larger throttle body, 4:10 gears, headers and H pipe, clean inside and out good looking car. OR a 96 formula firebird new aluminum head LT1 and a freshly rebuilt auto trans with a shift kit, CAI, bbk headers and throttle body. Also a decent looking car.

Now my plans for the car will be a daily driver that I can take to the track every once in a while. I would be modding the cars, full bolt ons and maybe some inside motor work as money permits.

And before everyone says it, yes I would be doing the maf conversion on the mustang I I got it.

All opinions appreciated.
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Is it possible to get unbiased opinions on the old 5.0 vs LT1 debate?

I had a 94 z28 m6 and I hated it. The car handles like a boat compared to the mustang and I had a lot of problems out of it (not that problems don't happen with used cars) but the whole time I had it I constantly had sensors going bad and once a month for no reason it would try and overheat. I would shut it off and fire it up 30 mins later and it would be fine for another month and still did it after replacing everything except the water pump. When it ran well it would outrun an equally modded 5.0 any time tho
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I am actually a mustang guy myself. I had a 90 lx carbureted 5.0 and I loved it, only reason I sold it was because of hard times. BUT the kicker is I actually owned this same firebird that I'm considering already. I didn't have it but a week or so when the trans went out. So I know this is a stout good running car.
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I had a 93z28 m6 and I hated it. The car handles like a boat compared to the mustang and I had a lot of problems out of it (not that problems don't happen with used cars) but the whole time I had it I constantly had sensors going bad and once a month for no reason it would try and overheat. I would shut it off and fire it up 30 mins later and it would be fine for another month and still did it after replacing everything except the water pump

Dang bro sounds like some bad luck, mine was great for me (handling did suck tho)
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Dang bro sounds like some bad luck, mine was great for me (handling did suck tho)

Yea I can't really say that all of them are bad cars I just got a bad one
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Sounds like you are comparing apples and oranges. If you want a stang, buy it, if you want a bird buy that. You are talking about doing motor work and mods and what not anyway, who cares what they are stock. If you are gonna build em anyway, start by comparing the LT1 to a 351. You aren't gonna run them stock. I'm not sure what LT1 power limits are and if you are looking for more than 475hp from 302 you are gonna need to go bigger anyway. you can build 351 to more than enough for street/track. It sounds like you really want the bird though.
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I know that each of them could be built to exactly what I want. I'm looking for 350-400hp max. Just enough to have fun with. But which would be better to get to that point. Which would be easier, cheaper, more reliable, more badass lol.
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If that's your horsepower goal I would go with the mustang just because it's a lighter better handling car and both cars cost about the same to get to the 350-400hp.
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There's pros and ons to both cars I guess. The mustang needs a few small odds and ends fixed where as the firebird doesn't but I like some things about the mustang more than the bird.
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I believe I saw that mustang on big boy toys forum?i am biased as well get the mustang
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Idk if you did it wasn't by me. I'm thinking about buying it though. I'm torn.
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The lt1 is much faster. I have had several of both. I have the article of the 93 z28 vs the 93 cobra. It smoked the cobra, couldn't even compare a gt to it.
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If that's your horsepower goal I would go with the mustang just because it's a lighter better handling car and both cars cost about the same to get to the 350-400hp.
None of the old 5.0 cars will compare to handling with a 93 and up Camaro, not even close. They do make good drag cars though but the twisties the Camaro will spank it with ease.
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See I've heard the opposite from everyone else. That the fbody handles like a boat compared to the fox body.
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Stock, the Foxes were nothing to write home about as far as handling goes, but they are light, so that can be easily rectified...
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id pic the fox over THAT bird...
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What is the weight difference between the two? And does that equate to any loss of hp from the lt1s rated 275hp?
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Get the bird. I like foxes but the only thing they having going for them is their light weight lol.

That's why everyone recommends a motor swap right away lol

I would personally get a different lt1 though


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What is the weight difference between the two? And does that equate to any loss of hp from the lt1s rated 275hp?
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Get the bird. I like foxes but the only thing they having going for them is their light weight lol.

That's why everyone recommends a motor swap right away lol

I would personally get a different lt1 though


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Fox body's are known for being really light which gives them an edge. I think the notchback LX are the lightest ones.


And I said the ither part because I like camaros better than the firebirds lol


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Oh ok gotcha. Idk there things that I like and that I don't like about each of them. One thing that concerns me is the weaker rear end in the bird. How much can it handle before failure?
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What is the weight difference between the two? And does that equate to any loss of hp from the lt1s rated 275hp?
The Firebird weighs about 3450lbs and the Fox that you're interested in weighs about 3200lbs.

Yes. It always requires more power to move more weight.
Stock for stock, the Firebird has more than enough power to make up that difference though.
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Anyone have any idea how much the stock firebird rear end can handle before it gives?
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Anyone have any idea how much the stock firebird rear end can handle before it gives?

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