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Old 07-11-2014, 10:45 AM   #71
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Stock suspension and everything. That car has the potential to touch 8s on stock power it looks like.


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One of my friends just went and put a down payment on one.

I have been considering doing the same. I really, really want to buy a plane and this will totally F that plan ... It may just be worth it.
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One of my friends just went and put a down payment on one.

I have been considering doing the same. I really, really want to buy a plane and this will totally F that plan ... It may just be worth it.

How old is your friend?


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If my car hadn't been gone through from front to back I would sell it and get one in a heart beat.
I have way to much $$ in it to start over lol

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That 10.8 was on DR's. 11.2 bone stock.

Stock suspension. It should be able to shave time with upgraded suspension.


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How old is your friend?
My age .. 30.
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Stock suspension. It should be able to shave time with upgraded suspension.


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Yeah. It will be a beast in a 1/4 mile. But try and turn it...
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One of my friends just went and put a down payment on one.

I have been considering doing the same. I really, really want to buy a plane and this will totally F that plan ... It may just be worth it.
F CK THAT!!!!
Buy the plane Ish. You won't regret it like owning a Chrysler product...
And it will help with this obsession that you have for buying every cool car that you see.
You wont have the money to do that anymore... lol.

Consider this an intervention.
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F CK THAT!!!!
Buy the plane Ish. You won't regret it like owning a Chrysler product...
And it will help with this obsession that you have for buying every cool car that you see.
You wont have the money to do that anymore... lol.

Consider this an intervention.
Haha .. But I can get a great deal any Chrysler product (employee discount FTW and no dealer markup) and I have owned several Chryslers over the years, not a single issue out of any of them, ever.

My grandfather was an engineer for Chrysler. He was in the tool and die department and he actually helped team Viper make part of the suspension, he also did work on the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Dakota and the Chrysler minivans. In the early 90's I actually got to ride in a pre-production Viper, that had a V8, then I got to do a lap at Indianapolis Motor Speedway in a different Viper for the Indy 500 (not for the race or anything, a ton of engineers and other guys from Chrysler were allowed to drive the cars around the track for a few laps).

So, Chrysler's run in my family, I wouldn't mind buying one as a collectors car. I just know that I would drive the shiz out of it making it not a collectors car. Also, I haven't heard an official price.

You are right though, I just need to hold off and stop buying stuff.
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Awesome reading through this thread and seeing so many know it all people hating on the Hellcat talking about how big and slow it will be then seeing the numbers today that its running 10.80s straight from the factory. I love it


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Where is everyone that was talking ish about it???
Told you guys hahahahah

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10.80 was on drag radials. 11.20 on street tires. But is $15,000-$20,000 premium price over the GT500 really worth a few tenths of a second. Can of worms coming up...

I know a specific V6 that will beat the fat cat for less than half the price. ha ha ha


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I wouldn't want a V6 if it ran an 8sec 1/4mi.


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The hellcat ran a 10.8 in the quarter on drag radials. There is a V6 Stang that runs 10.70's. Where is the 8's crap coming from?


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I never said there was one that ran 8's. I said I wouldn't want a V6 anything even if it ran 8's. And the car you're talking about is irrelevant. It's not a factory car.


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I never said there was one that ran 8's. I said I wouldn't want a V6 anything even if it ran 8's. And the car you're talking about is irrelevant. It's not a factory car.


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Sure it is a factory car. Ford built it a long side all the other Mustangs. It was purchased threw a dealer then modified. I brought it up to open a can if worms. I was talking about 10 and 11 second cars and you start talking about 8 second cars. Why? You were way off the topic i was talking about.


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It was sarcasm...


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Awesome reading through this thread and seeing so many know it all people hating on the Hellcat talking about how big and slow it will be then seeing the numbers today that its running 10.80s straight from the factory. I love it


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The FAT CAT has 707 Hp , if my mustang had 707 Hp I would be
running in the 9's . Let's look at the curb weight of the FAT CAT
SHOCK , HORROR 4300 + pounds due to the big inefficient BLOWER
it runs . My mustang's curb weight is 3550 pounds with a light weight centri BLOWER
and a full tank of gas.

The FAT CAT is what it is FAT / OBESE but COOL.
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The FAT CAT has 707 Hp , if my mustang had 707 Hp I would be
running in the 9's . Let's look at the curb weight of the FAT CAT
SHOCK , HORROR 4300 + pounds due to the big inefficient BLOWER
it runs . My mustang's curb weight is 3550 pounds with a light weight centri BLOWER
and a full tank of gas.

The FAT CAT is what it is FAT / OBESE but COOL.

Nothing personal man, But I see when you post these comparisons you use a lot of Theoretical situations such as "If my car had that power, I would Run 9's." But, You don't have 707 to the crank. And you have no idea what it would run. Sure, on paper it sounds good. But some drivers of 13-14's gt500 are showing way lower quarter mile times than they theoretically should. That's because of real life factors. Tbh, you can throw out as many numbers as you'd like about what your car COULD do if you had that power. But when it comes down to it, Your car isn't capable of that power or those times at the current moment, so it really adds nothing of value to the discussion. Again nothing personal, i'm sure your car is fast for what it is.

The hell cat has shown what it can do. 10.8 on a radial is very impressive for a production car right off the floor. so what if it weighs 4300 lbs, it still ran what it ran. The car will only get faster as aftermarket parts and weight reduction kits become available. And all I can do is sit back and thank the gods that I'm alive to watch the second pony car wars that my dad got to witness during the 60's and 70's. It's a good time to be alive, Gentlemen.


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Nothing personal man, But I see when you post these comparisons you use a lot of Theoretical situations such as "If my car had that power, I would Run 9's." But, You don't have 707 to the crank. And you have no idea what it would run. Sure, on paper it sounds good. But some drivers of 13-14's gt500 are showing way lower quarter mile times than they theoretically should. That's because of real life factors. Tbh, you can throw out as many numbers as you'd like about what your car COULD do if you had that power. But when it comes down to it, Your car isn't capable of that power or those times at the current moment, so it really adds nothing of value to the discussion. Again nothing personal, i'm sure your car is fast for what it is.

The hell cat has shown what it can do. 10.8 on a radial is very impressive for a production car right off the floor. so what if it weighs 4300 lbs, it still ran what it ran. The car will only get faster as aftermarket parts and weight reduction kits become available. And all I can do is sit back and thank the gods that I'm alive to watch the second pony car wars that my dad got to witness during the 60's and 70's. It's a good time to be alive, Gentlemen.


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Lol he's saying the Fat Cat's blower is inefficient yet his car with its blower isn't making anywhere near 700hp.

This guy is amusing. I LOL at his posts every single time once I decipher the words and its meanings
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He has a stock motor non intercooled, vortech 3v, supposedly.
Also ot will take your 3v alot more that "707 at the crank" to run 9's.
Stop trying to post acting like you know what your talking about.

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He has a stock motor non intercooled, vortech 3v, supposedly.
Also ot will take your 3v alot more that "707 at the crank" to run 9's.
Stop trying to post acting like you know what your talking about.

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How do you know what I have Rapinator ???? If you read some of my posts you would know that my set up is a VORTECH intercooled V3 running at 10 psi and Hp is around the 530 -550 mark. The V3 is capable of producing 600 RWHP with appropriate mods on the car so there is room to grow IF I choose to.

You say 600 RWHP out of a SUPERCHARGED 4.6 3v is not possible ..... think again it's been done .
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How do you know what I have Rapinator ???? If you read some of my posts you would know that my set up is a VORTECH intercooled V3 running at 10 psi and Hp is around the 530 -550 mark. The V3 is capable of producing 600 RWHP with appropriate mods on the car so there is room to grow IF I choose to.

You say 600 RWHP out of a SUPERCHARGED 4.6 3v is not possible ..... think again it's been done .
Did I ever say it was not possible???

U are the one who posted yours was not intercooled more than onec.

And for 2 I had a supercharged, full, exhaust methanol 3v. So I Know YOUR car is slow. Idc what hp you think you have

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Your preaching to the choir, is all you do/ are doing. You try and put your " facts " out there which are complete bull crap. Get some real work experience, then I wouldn't give you such a hard time.
You try and post #'s and compare that. Like I said get some real world experience and you will see your " weight" " hp " and etc do not count. They look good on paper buy not in the real world


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Did I ever say it was not possible???

U are the one who posted yours was not intercooled more than onec.

And for 2 I had a supercharged, full, exhaust methanol 3v. So I Know YOUR car is slow. Idc what hp you think you have

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WAS not intercooled key words , I'll print the DYNO sheet once I get it .
My kit is a Brenspeed and advertised Hp is 190+ RWHP over stock.
So 530 -550 Hp is a very realistic number. And if you think that's slow
.... ok.... , I like the 5.0 it's a good motor but I don't like the body style
of the 10's and up and like I said before if I bought another mustang
it would be a good used Shelby GT 500 and most certainly NOT
a 5.0. I would even consider a 2007 -2012 older version Shelby since I do the like that body style the best but am not too keen on the iron block 5.4 L although like you said they are very tough / strong motors albeit heavy as hell.

Most any motor can be made to produce high Hp , just look at the 3.7
Turbo V6 running 10.7 seconds but with a V8 it's of course easier to
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Just build the motor and cam it/ do the heads and crank up the boost. The 3v's need it bad, they are impressive after quite a bit of $$$$

Personally I would get another 2v b4 another 3v.

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Nothing personal man, But I see when you post these comparisons you use a lot of Theoretical situations such as "If my car had that power, I would Run 9's." But, You don't have 707 to the crank. And you have no idea what it would run. Sure, on paper it sounds good. But some drivers of 13-14's gt500 are showing way lower quarter mile times than they theoretically should. That's because of real life factors. Tbh, you can throw out as many numbers as you'd like about what your car COULD do if you had that power. But when it comes down to it, Your car isn't capable of that power or those times at the current moment, so it really adds nothing of value to the discussion. Again nothing personal, i'm sure your car is fast for what it is.

The hell cat has shown what it can do. 10.8 on a radial is very impressive for a production car right off the floor. so what if it weighs 4300 lbs, it still ran what it ran. The car will only get faster as aftermarket parts and weight reduction kits become available. And all I can do is sit back and thank the gods that I'm alive to watch the second pony car wars that my dad got to witness during the 60's and 70's. It's a good time to be alive, Gentlemen.


Thank You. My thoughts exactly

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You guys argue too much. A new awesome car comes out and it's not good enough. It can't be any worse than a Mustang, because outside of a Concours participant (99.9% of us aren't), we all head to the Summit catalog to buy all the right parts because what came on our beloved Mustangs wasn't good enough. Even if some of us can't afford it, we would buy those parts in a heartbeat.

I'm happy we still have cars like this available to us, every last one of them. There could/will be a day that this may not be possible sometime in our future.

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For many of us, I'd bet money if we won the lottery we'd have one of each in our garages.

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I'd skip right over the cars and get a P-51 similar to the one in your avatar...
That will REALLY get your blood flowing!
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I got lucky last summer with a local Mustang club that coordinated a photo op with that plane right after an airshow. Couldn't resist the opportunity.

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Well .. official pricing is out.

A base Hellcat will be $59,900. A fully optioned Hellcat will be $74,900.
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75 k plus taxes puts it at over 80 k for the FAT CAT for that price I would rather take a Shelby GT 500 any day much cheaper at 60 k or so . Heck a good used one can be had for 40 k that's HALF THE PRICE. The Shelby is much lighter with a curb weight of 3850. Dodge already released weights of 4251 auto and 4240 for the manual. We are talking roughly 400 pounds more that's like have two 200 pound extra people in the car ha... hence the name FAT CAT.

Ford leaves restrictions on its engines when it easily exceeds its horsepower goals. The GT500 exceeded 650 easily so Ford left the undersized throttle body and restrictive resonator delete as the limiting factors. I'll take a 720+ horses Shelby and a 400 pound weight advantage and run away from the Hellcat all day long . Hail to the true KING the mighty Shelby GT 500 it's highly unlikely Ford will produce another Shelby with that
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75 k plus taxes puts it at over 80 k for the FAT CAT for that price I would rather take a Shelby GT 500 any day much cheaper at 60 k or so . Heck a good used one can be had for 40 k that's HALF THE PRICE. The Shelby is much lighter with a curb weight of 3850. Dodge already released weights of 4251 auto and 4240 for the manual. We are talking roughly 400 pounds more that's like have two 200 pound extra people in the car ha... hence the name FAT CAT.

Ford leaves restrictions on its engines when it easily exceeds its horsepower goals. The GT500 exceeded 650 easily so Ford left the undersized throttle body and restrictive resonator delete as the limiting factors. I'll take a 720+ horses Shelby and a 400 pound weight advantage and run away from the Hellcat all day long . Hail to the true KING the mighty Shelby GT 500 it's highly unlikely Ford will produce another Shelby with that
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I wish I had the money to buy one of these hell cats. In looking for a retro pony car, the Challenger was my first choice, as it has the best retro style of the three (Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger). However, I could not afford the price that the SRT8 version was fetching, nor could I at the time afford the Boss Mustang that was my second choice. The Camaro was never in the running for me.

Now that I can stretch a payment a bit further, a used Boss is in the works for me very soon.

But alas, I still like the Challenger.
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75 k plus taxes puts it at over 80 k for the FAT CAT for that price I would rather take a Shelby GT 500 any day much cheaper at 60 k or so . Heck a good used one can be had for 40 k that's HALF THE PRICE. The Shelby is much lighter with a curb weight of 3850. Dodge already released weights of 4251 auto and 4240 for the manual. We are talking roughly 400 pounds more that's like have two 200 pound extra people in the car ha... hence the name FAT CAT.

Ford leaves restrictions on its engines when it easily exceeds its horsepower goals. The GT500 exceeded 650 easily so Ford left the undersized throttle body and restrictive resonator delete as the limiting factors. I'll take a 720+ horses Shelby and a 400 pound weight advantage and run away from the Hellcat all day long . Hail to the true KING the mighty Shelby GT 500 it's highly unlikely Ford will produce another Shelby with that
much Hp.
Ummm why don't you just get the GT500 and be done with this Fat Cat nonsense? Then you can have that 700hp+ GT500 that'll roast the Fat Cat.

Hell why not get the Super Snake with 950hp and call it a day.

Hell you could build yourself a rocket ship why not and blow the Fat Cat out of this world?

Or why not pray to some god like Zeus and maybe he'll let you ride his rod of thunder so you can straddle his rod of thunder and ride it down the quarter mile at 0.00000000000000000001sec? But remember to still use rubber when riding the rod... Lol
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