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Old 09-17-2014, 04:32 AM   #1
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I now have an LSD in my 240sx.

Upgraded my open differential in my '95 240sx to a Tomei T-Trax 2 way LSD.


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Still waiting on, isis suspension arms, solid subframe bushings, differential bushings and a one piece aluminum driveshaft from shaftmasters. Hopefully I get them in before the next drift event on 11-1-14.
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Nice work. That should be lots of fun. What engine do you have in that little beast?
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Right now, it's got a bone stock K motor. I'm gonna wait until it blows and then I'm gonna build a 2JZ GTE with a Getrag 6spd. But that might be awhile. This Ka24de is in pretty good shape. Plus it'll give me time to save up for the swap.
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LSx/T56 swap would be magnitudes cheaper, and make just as much power. Not to mention it's been done eleventy-billion times and is a very easy/ documented swap.
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Nice!
And major props for bringing it inside and doing the swap in your living room on the coffee table... You're my kind of guy P2T!
Were you drifting that car with the open diff?

The only LS swapped 240 that I've ever seen was at an autocross event and it was a drift car. That car was also involved in one of the strangest things that I've ever seen at an event... As he was doing his lap, for no apparent reason, the rear bumper cover came loose and was being dragged around the course behind the car by only one attachment point on the side. It happened while Soccerluvr4, Bullitt1075 and I were all working the course. Everybody knew that it was going to come completely off of the car, it was just a matter of when and where. Lol. I don't think that I've ever seen the course workers so focused on a single car... EVER! Everyone was thinking that it was going to come flying off around a corner and knock them over like a bowling pin! It finally did come completely loose from the car and went sliding across the track without hitting anyone, luckily! Haha. I think that it was Bullitt1075 who ran over and dragged it off the track.
Normally, you need to hit a wall or something to lose parts like that! It must have been attached with duct tape or something...
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Nice!

And major props for bringing it inside and doing the swap in your living room on the coffee table... You're my kind of guy P2T!

Were you drifting that car with the open diff?



The only LS swapped 240 that I've ever seen was at an autocross event and it was a drift car. That car was also involved in one of the strangest things that I've ever seen at an event... As he was doing his lap, for no apparent reason, the rear bumper cover came loose and was being dragged around the course behind the car by only one attachment point on the side. It happened while Soccerluvr4, Bullitt1075 and I were all working the course. Everybody knew that it was going to come completely off of the car, it was just a matter of when and where. Lol. I don't think that I've ever seen the course workers so focused on a single car... EVER! Everyone was thinking that it was going to come flying off around a corner and knock them over like a bowling pin! It finally did come completely loose from the car and went sliding across the track without hitting anyone, luckily! Haha. I think that it was Bullitt1075 who ran over and dragged it off the track.

Normally, you need to hit a wall or something to lose parts like that! It must have been attached with duct tape or something...


That happened in my corner also. I'll try to see if I can find any pictures after class.


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Here they are, i don't have a pic or video of the bumper falling off though.
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Yep. There's the famous "Bumper flinger".
He probably lost the front bumper at the previous event...

Lol
They frown on us taking pictures or videos while working the course.
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Yep. There's the famous "Bumper flinger".
He probably lost the front bumper at the previous event...

Lol
They frown on us taking pictures or videos while working the course.
I think i've also still got videos of the brand new BMW drifting the course.
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I think i've also still got videos of the brand new BMW drifting the course.
Haha.
Those guys are instructors at Laguna Seca for the Skip Barber racing school.
They were really beating the hell out of that Beamer. I've never seen a car that ended the day with so much cone rash! And flat tires! They knocked the spoiler off of the front also!
They kept bringing that car back until the series ended early this year.
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I do love the 2jz. For what it is, I (and many other people) think it is amazing. Any time you can get a reliable 400rwhp out of a 3 liter engine on the factory longblock is pretty impressive.

However, I do think that an all aluminum N/A LS-swap may be a better choice for your car. Certainly would be a cheaper swap. Might even be a lighter weight swap, but I would have to check what a fully dressed 2jz weighs compared to a fully dressed LSx.
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Quick search brings up these numbers:
2jz gte 594#
LSx 460#

Link:
240sxONE Tech » Blog Archive » How to Swap an LS1 into a 240SX Part 1

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cxracing.com: LS1 LS Engine Motor T56 Transmission Swap Mount Kit 240SX S13 S14

Just a thought...
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Just the Getrag V160 6 spd (Supra 6 spd) would cost as much as a complete running LSx/T56 swap.

The 2JZ GTE is completely over rated. Sure, a few of them are putting down 800+ rwhp, I knew a guy who was putting down 1041 rwhp on the stock bottom end. That lasted about 1,000 miles before it spun a rod bearing.

One of my friends bought this IS 300 - FS: 700+ RWHP 2003 TCM Sportdesign Turbo IS300 w/ Less thank 20k Original Miles

It also spun a rod bearing at only 600 whp. It is now being completely rebuilt at Induction Performance in Florida. He's shooting for 800+ on the built engine on the current turbo and he spent more on rebuilding the engine than most people do when they buy a used car.
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Yeah, thanks for all the positive feedback.

Working in the A/C, perks of being single. No ****s given. Lol

I considered an LSX swap at first but down here it's very common plus I have a lot of local support of knowledgeable friends to help me go the 2JZ route.

I know what y'all are talking about with dude loosing his bumper. I see a lot of guys deliberately weakening their bumper zip ties/latch straps etc. so that their bumper will fall off while they are driving. It's an attempt to rev up the crowd. I don't know if that's what this guy was doing but it's common down here.

My S14 will not have and quick releases on the bumpers.
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LSX swap is too common. Up to the point it's not even impressive anymore.


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Haha.
Now I wonder!!!
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I wasn't bringing up the LSx swap for any impressive points. I mentioned it because it is simple, reliable, legal, and drivable.

In this day and age, very few things are truly impressive. We have grown accustomed to 1,000rwhp like it's the norm. If you are going through the trouble of swapping a motor, it's just expected that you are putting in some max-build twin turbo monster to break 200mph down the runway at the Texas Mile.

Meanwhile, for us mere mortals, a 400rwhp, OEM reliable, daily drivable, readily available (cheap-ish) V8 swap is not only doable, but sensible. It doesn't have to be impressive, it has to do what you are asking it do, every time, with as few problems as possible.

I do love the 2jz, and I am in no way trying to discourage you from using one. They are reliable and can be very powerful. Have fun with whatever you choose to use. And keep us posted when the time comes to make the swap.
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Oh yeah, the LSX would be more affordable and a more sensible choice. Also, I'm not trying to build a 1,000hp monster. I'd be happy in the mid 400-500 range. It's just the 2JZ is totally foreign to me. I've never worked on one before so it's the challenge that has me interested. But it's still a ways away. I've got plenty of time to plan it out.


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As for a solid, reliable, and simple 2jz to meet those power goals... I think a stock GTE long block, with a Treadstone single turbo manifold and a 62mm to 68mm .81 ball bearing turbo should do you right. I'm pretty sure the stock fueling system of the GTE will support your power goals, so that makes it a little easier.

It will be fun, lots of fun.
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As for a solid, reliable, and simple 2jz to meet those power goals... I think a stock GTE long block, with a Treadstone single turbo manifold and a 62mm to 68mm .81 ball bearing turbo should do you right. I'm pretty sure the stock fueling system of the GTE will support your power goals, so that makes it a little easier. It will be fun, lots of fun.
I agree. Almost everyone I know runs a single turbo with their 2J swap.
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I agree. Almost everyone I know runs a single turbo with their 2J swap.

Single turbo is the way to go on those motors. Or pretty much most inline motors at that.


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I'm a pretty big fan of single turbo set-up's on V-engines as well. Big turbos usually produce less heat. One turbo simplifies piping. And on a V-engine, you run a twin scroll turbo with one bank of cylinders going to each side of the split exhaust housing. Simple. Effective. Powerful.

I am sure you will find the 2jz to be an absolute blast. How are you enjoying the new LSD swap?

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I'm a pretty big fan of single turbo set-up's on V-engines as well. Big turbos usually produce less heat. One turbo simplifies piping. And on a V-engine, you run a twin scroll turbo with one bank of cylinders going to each side of the split exhaust housing. Simple. Effective. Powerful.

I am sure you will find the 2jz to be an absolute blast. How are you enjoying the new LSD swap?
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Ugh, I wish I was enjoying it instead of waiting for parts. My Isis pro arms were on back order and I'm told will ship on Monday. So until then, I get to stare at this every time I pull into my driveway.

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Cool project primer! Are you planning to go to some of the local drift events with her when completed? There's a dude that works at the local Ford dealership that's putting a 4.6L mod motor in his.


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Yes! I'm definitely going to punish some tires once this thing is road worthy.

My buddy locally has an S13 with a pushrod 5.0 swapped into it. That thing is nasty on the drift track.



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Nice Z! My buddy has a '71 & a Z32. He bought the '71 as a shell and is building it up. I love Datsun. My first car was a 510. I'm looking for a 620 pick up for my son.



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Nice Z! My buddy has a '71 & a Z32. He bought the '71 as a shell and is building it up. I love Datsun. My first car was a 510. I'm looking for a 620 pick up for my son.



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