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Old 02-07-2015, 07:39 AM   #141
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Detroitmuscle99: man my 99 GT will eat your hell cat alive...

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Lol that is pretty funny. It's pretty much always full I never really spray on the streets only have twice maybe 3 times.
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Can't use nitrous on a road course either.


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Not into turns I like drag racing. If I was into autocrossing etc I would own something else. I do like taking my wife's rx7 out time to time.
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Id prefer turbo or supercharger. You forget that nitrous also has its down side, like bottle pressure, and it running out after a couple of runs. As far as FI setups and heat, you could add a meth kit to it to cool the iat's down. For a supercharger, you could add a smaller pulley, and add a wastegate to the setup to have boost sooner. Every power adder has its pro's and con's. Id take FI any day since its always on.
I didn't forget it, every power adder has a downside. Best thing would just be a big n/a motor and no power adder. No replacement for displacement lol. Even though you have to fill the bottle up nothing is more efficient than nitrous. But your right, a solenoid could stick, nitrous backfires etc. Everyone has their preference.
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No it's not. I've just never heard it called that before. Always went by bi-turbo.


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Bi-turbo is a general term for two turbos. Small feeding large is a sequential setup. And parallel is when identical turbochargers function simultaneously.


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Ya and what do you have done to your mustang
well basicaly i lost to the hellcat on my 2014 gt 5.0 stock stang just got some roush exhaust thats it. its my second project car my 2004 stang is all fixed up but i sold it to ma pops he liked it alot. and this is my second project car so im just starting to fix her up im waiting for the warranty to pass to put a tuner to her and some under the hood mods
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well basicaly i lost to the hellcat on my 2014 gt 5.0 stock stang just got some roush exhaust thats it. its my second project car my 2004 stang is all fixed up but i sold it to ma pops he liked it alot. and this is my second project car so im just starting to fix her up im waiting for the warranty to pass to put a tuner to her and some under the hood mods

Yea, I pulled next to a hellcat once, at a stop light. I realized it was a hellcat just before the light changed, and just let him go. I knew what the outcome would be, love that Dodge make it a sleeper. Just a few small clues to hint at the monstrosity under the hood. I'm in the market for a 11 GT/CS going to do a twin turbo build, plans are 1000rwhp. But that will be later down the road.
And what mods do you plan for your car, If I may ask?


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super charger for sure maybe some nos tuned and cai headers bigger pipes no resonators clear up restrictions and some drag tires that should allow me to run with the gt500 for sure but im still iffy about nos

wonder how much hp that would make?
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Bi-turbo is a general term for two turbos. Small feeding large is a sequential setup. And parallel is when identical turbochargers function simultaneously.


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Exactly or a turbo that is run in sequence with each other are called non sequential turbo setup or parralel.
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super charger for sure maybe some nos tuned and cai headers bigger pipes no resonators clear up restrictions and some drag tires that should allow me to run with the gt500 for sure but im still iffy about nos

wonder how much hp that would make?
Wish I could of afforded a coyote 2010 plus GT but when I couldn't find a Fox I settled for a new edge. And please don't call it nos that's fast and furious ricer talk lol.
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super charger for sure maybe some nos tuned and cai headers bigger pipes no resonators clear up restrictions and some drag tires that should allow me to run with the gt500 for sure but im still iffy about nos



wonder how much hp that would make?

That should be enough... Depending on the supercharger. Those 5.8s are absolute monsters when it comes to power. 662hp with not that big of a blower on it. Fastest mustang I've driven was a 13 gt500, but the owner did something that made that car a complete demon possessed monster. He put a whipple 4.0L on it, being the only mod, 30lbs of boost. Made close to 1056hp and now he's building the engine. He heard about whipples new supercharger the 4.5L and plans on putting that in the car. He wants to take it to the salt flats and see how fast he can get it to, since he took off the speed restrictions. We're thinking around 250+mph


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Wish I could of afforded a coyote 2010 plus GT but when I couldn't find a Fox I settled for a new edge. And please don't call it nos that's fast and furious ricer talk lol.
lol some shot then.... and there not too much im paying like 660 for the car and insurance a month not counting the gas i go threw but hey at least u own that car i dont the bank does thats y i miss my 04 stang
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lol some shot then.... and there not too much im paying like 660 for the car and insurance a month not counting the gas i go threw but hey at least u own that car i dont the bank does thats y i miss my 04 stang
Yeah but you will own it. When it's all said and done my plans are to drop in a 5 liter coyote when this motor dies. Only has 20k on motor so it should last awhile but have plans down the road for a coyote and two stage nitrous setup.
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That should be enough... Depending on the supercharger. Those 5.8s are absolute monsters when it comes to power. 662hp with not that big of a blower on it. Fastest mustang I've driven was a 13 gt500, but the owner did something that made that car a complete demon possessed monster. He put a whipple 4.0L on it, being the only mod, 30lbs of boost. Made close to 1056hp and now he's building the engine. He heard about whipples new supercharger the 4.5L and plans on putting that in the car. He wants to take it to the salt flats and see how fast he can get it to, since he took off the speed restrictions. We're thinking around 250+mph

dam thats fast and the supercharger alone should wake her up.
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Yeah but you will own it. When it's all said and done my plans are to drop in a 5 liter coyote when this motor dies. Only has 20k on motor so it should last awhile but have plans down the road for a coyote and two stage nitrous setup.
wow 20 k not bad at all my 2004 has like 179xxx and still running no flaws just replaced my fan and thermostat once and probably need to change the convertible motor its wimping out and needs some help going up. but urs is coupe so it should last u a long time those cars are built to last i say that from experience i got it at 70xxx miles and beat the ***** out of her by modding lol but very reliable.
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That should be enough... Depending on the supercharger. Those 5.8s are absolute monsters when it comes to power. 662hp with not that big of a blower on it. Fastest mustang I've driven was a 13 gt500, but the owner did something that made that car a complete demon possessed monster. He put a whipple 4.0L on it, being the only mod, 30lbs of boost. Made close to 1056hp and now he's building the engine. He heard about whipples new supercharger the 4.5L and plans on putting that in the car. He wants to take it to the salt flats and see how fast he can get it to, since he took off the speed restrictions. We're thinking around 250+mph


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Some how I don't feel that it will be competing with the bugatti. Aerodynamics account for quite a bit. But hopefully I'm wrong and you get a video of it.


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Some how I don't feel that it will be competing with the bugatti. Aerodynamics account for quite a bit. But hopefully I'm wrong and you get a video of it.


2014 5.OHHHHHH

Well if he wanted to compete with a Bugatti he would've picked a better platform than a mustang. He wanted a muscle car and make it as fast and powerful as he could. Which then again the new 1200hp Shelby 1000 S/C is said to have a 268mph top speed.


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wow 20 k not bad at all my 2004 has like 179xxx and still running no flaws just replaced my fan and thermostat once and probably need to change the convertible motor its wimping out and needs some help going up. but urs is coupe so it should last u a long time those cars are built to last i say that from experience i got it at 70xxx miles and beat the ***** out of her by modding lol but very reliable.
The car has 81k on chassis but 20k on motor was originally a v6 car at birth
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It may have a ton of horsepower, but the Mustang sure doesn't have the aerodynamics to go 250mph, and unless it's on a perfectly smooth track I wouldn't trust the suspension of the car at that speed. Solid axle, conventional sway bars and any type of bump do not mix well at all. Gearing also. A Bugatti goes to 80mph in 1st gear, and it has 8 of them. It CAN go faster but they limit it to that speed because of the tires (which are already custom made for the car and severely tested before going on the car)

Also There is a reason Koenigsegg developed a Triplex suspension for his cars. A mustang just won't do it safely.


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The car has 81k on chassis but 20k on motor was originally a v6 car at birth
only thing is the bushings and suspension starts to wear out on the 2004 convertibles around 150xxx miles mine needed changing.
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It may have a ton of horsepower, but the Mustang sure doesn't have the aerodynamics to go 250mph, and unless it's on a perfectly smooth track I wouldn't trust the suspension of the car at that speed. Solid axle, conventional sway bars and any type of bump do not mix well at all. Gearing also. A Bugatti goes to 80mph in 1st gear, and it has 8 of them. It CAN go faster but they limit it to that speed because of the tires (which are already custom made for the car and severely tested before going on the car)

Also There is a reason Koenigsegg developed a Triplex suspension for his cars. A mustang just won't do it safely.


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only thing is the bushings and suspension starts to wear out on the 2004 convertibles around 150xxx miles mine needed changing.
My suspension is totally redone, just getting a drag link suspension with my refund check and swapping to a 9" rear.
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It can be done though but you are right

Yea it CAN be done. But there is a reason those Hyper cars are so expensive.


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ha lol i thought it was cause of that fancy symbol they put on itjk
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Mustangs last longer than a Challenger or Charger....

Also only vehicle to out run the General Lee on the Dukes of Hazard was in fact a Mustang.

You may have lost that race but just find ten V6 Challenger 's and your good to go! Hahahaha
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Detroitmuscle99: man my 99 GT will eat your hell cat alive...

Hellcat owner: oh ok...lets race

Detroitmuscle99: ok...is there a place near by where I could get my nitrous bottles filled?

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EXACTLY THIS GUY NAILS IT HAHA so true. **** I can't race my bottle is empty.


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EXACTLY THIS GUY NAILS IT HAHA so true. **** I can't race my bottle is empty.


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And this is what turbo guys do....

Uhh I can't race the cars to hot right now and I'm going to need a bigger wastegate spring to run enough boost to beat you. I have to run 26psi to beat you etc. I have a Japan turbo setup right now if I had twin 88mm tubros I couldn't be touched, or the famous I was chasing you down but ran out of relistate.

Here's a supercharger guy,

Bro I only lost because my belt was slipping or let me go home and change my pullies and belt so I make more boost, I'll be back in a hour or so. I like supercharger best, they whine because they are losing. Lmao
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And this is what turbo guys do....

Uhh I can't race the cars to hot right now and I'm going to need a bigger wastegate spring to run enough boost to beat you. I have to run 26psi to beat you etc. I have a Japan turbo setup right now if I had twin 88mm tubros I couldn't be touched, or the famous I was chasing you down but ran out of relistate.

Here's a supercharger guy,

Bro I only lost because my belt was slipping or let me go home and change my pullies and belt so I make more boost, I'll be back in a hour or so. I like supercharger best, they whine because they are losing. Lmao

My supercharger belt has never slipped


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And this is what turbo guys do....

Uhh I can't race the cars to hot right now and I'm going to need a bigger wastegate spring to run enough boost to beat you. I have to run 26psi to beat you etc. I have a Japan turbo setup right now if I had twin 88mm tubros I couldn't be touched, or the famous I was chasing you down but ran out of relistate.

Here's a supercharger guy,

Bro I only lost because my belt was slipping or let me go home and change my pullies and belt so I make more boost, I'll be back in a hour or so. I like supercharger best, they whine because they are losing. Lmao

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Everyone makes excuses when they lose. It's in human nature lol. But look at all the fastest production cars in the world. All turbochargers


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Everyone makes excuses when they lose. It's in human nature lol. But look at all the fastest production cars in the world. All turbochargers


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They are the most versatile also IMO. Nitrous you don't want to use in corners so that knocks it out of most racing. Twin screws get super hot and lose power.

A turbo you can have different sizes for the lag, and use boost controllers so you can run a larger waste gate spring and still make smaller power. Can also use multiple turbos. The possibilities are endless.


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Or you could use both a turbocharger AND a supercharger... Like Lockheed used on the P-38 Lightning in 1939.

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Can't use nitrous on a road course either.


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Exactly. Although I did see someone use nitrous in a auto x event, It was so funny watching it as it engaged and the car doing a 360 right after lol.
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Or you could use both a turbocharger AND a supercharger... Like Lockheed used on the P-38 Lightning in 1939.

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VW has that set up on one of their 4 bangers, it makes 17lbs of boost. The system is set up that the supercharger feeds into the turbo, and the supercharger cuts off at a certain rpm and the turbo takes over. The interesting thing about the engine is it makes 14% more boost than the turbo charged variant and uses 5% less fuel...
Hennessey also uses it on their ford gt1000, not the same way of course.
But the interesting thing about that setup you can run idiotic amounts of boost than with just one F/I setup. A certain terminator runs 45lbs of boost making over 1300hp, and engine is built bullet proof...


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