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Old 07-17-2015, 09:29 PM   #71
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My cousin has a 06 GTO with full exhaust, ms3, and tuned by smith's LSX tuning in Houston. The car sounds amazing. But is a complete turd.

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Texas Speed Performance - https://texas-speed.com/ makes great cams for the LSx.

I have an MS3 (Magic Stick 3) on a 112 LSA from TSP. It's a great cam but does have some bucking issues (cam surge) at low rpm (1100 rpm or less). Otherwise, it pulls HARD from 2300 rpm all the way to 6800 rpm and could pull a little further (7300 rpm) if I wanted it to. This is IMO, slightly large for a DD but great for a weekend/toy car.

A good all around cam would be the TSP Torquer V4 231/234 .619/.612 on a 111 LSA ( Texas Speed Torquer V3 231/234 .643/598 Camshaft ).

Great power every where, that big cam idle chop, will work with stock heads and no fly cutting of pistons. LS2's in my area with basic bolt ons (CAI, full exhaust, cam and tune) are putting down about 430 whp and 420 tq (6spd cars) with these cams. Making solid torque numbers too, around 250 whp and 350 wtq @ 2500 rpm and building all the way to around 6200 rpm (generally peak power) before flat lining, power doesn't drop off, just stays flat to 6500 rpm. The gains from this cam are around 55 whp on a stock car with just long tubes and a tune and jumps up a good bit from there.

The Torquer V4 is honestly a cam that can grow with your mods. It will take advantage of new heads, a fast 102 intake/tb and will love nitrous, if you ever go that route.

I've honestly never heard anyone complain about the Torquer cams unless they were going with a full out build (track car) and just needed more power.

Also, key thing. When upgrading the cam, absolutely go with new valve springs, push rods, lifters and timing chain.

Here is a great guide for installing the cam in your car, that thread along with a service manual should be all you need if you are going to DIY it. - And its begun... Cam & Supercharger - Corvette Forum
Thanks for the info! I greatly appreciate it, so far the standard answer on the forums Corvette forums I've looked at is to use the search button, and that hasn't gone very well so far.

My harmonic balancer is starting to wobble so I may start collecting parts now so that hopefully I'm ready when it does go out. Would the stock valve spring keepers need changed as well
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My cousin has a 06 GTO with full exhaust, ms3, and tuned by smith's LSX tuning in Houston. The car sounds amazing. But is a complete turd.

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Does his car just not put the power down very well?
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^ he's probably comparing it to his car. Compared to ours, it's probably a beast.
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Does his car just not put the power down very well?
Yes it just isn't what everyone including himself expected.

Now your vette is a different story. That thing is going to be nasty with a cam and full exhaust.

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Yes it just isn't what everyone including himself expected.

Now your vette is a different story. That thing is going to be nasty with a cam and full exhaust.

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What did he put down? I'll admit I'm kind of curious.

I'm hoping for some great numbers once I start throwing some parts at it. If I remember correctly a Mustang generally needs 100+whp on a Corvette to be on a level playing field correct? I don't really street race but it sure would be fun to hurt some Terminator feelings
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What did he put down? I'll admit I'm kind of curious.

I'm hoping for some great numbers once I start throwing some parts at it. If I remember correctly a Mustang generally needs 100+whp on a Corvette to be on a level playing field correct? I don't really street race but it sure would be fun to hurt some Terminator feelings
He made 448 can't remember the tq.

And yes that's the rough "code" that a mustang needs 100hp more. But some other stuff comes into play. You can take a 700rwhp c6 and a 700rwhp coyote ( given both 100% good drivers) the Mustang can win. Just depends on how the power band is and how well it holds it, and what power adder is used. If its a centrifugal 5.0 it's about to get walked.

Your c6 with a cam, full exhaust. Will be hurting 03-04 cobras feelings with full exhaust, ported and pulled blower left and right.

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He made 448 can't remember the tq.

And yes that's the rough "code" that a mustang needs 100hp more. But some other stuff comes into play. You can take a 700rwhp c6 and a 700rwhp coyote ( given both 100% good drivers) the Mustang can win. Just depends on how the power band is and how well it holds it, and what power adder is used. If its a centrifugal 5.0 it's about to get walked.

Your c6 with a cam, full exhaust. Will be hurting 03-04 cobras feelings with full exhaust, ported and pulled blower left and right.

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That's good to know. My area seems chock full of 5.0s with blowers so I'm sure I'll run into them at some point. I tend to be more doubtful of my cars capabilities whenever somebody wants to run me, so I always end up surprised when I actually beat something.

I've got a buddy looking at buying a Terminator and I know he likes to talk ****, so it'll be fun to put him in his place. The more interesting battle is gonna be car against my buddies Evo X. He has some sort of GT35XR (I can't to remember the details) that he's getting ready to install and quote curious to see how bad he will kick my ***.
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Painted the lip and took some pictures yesterday. I've got very little in the way of ground clearance now with the lip and will scrape if you look at it funny. But I love the way it looks and it still rides great. If I have issues scraping too much while driving around then I'll raise it, but for now I'm happy. Now I just need bigger wheels and tires to fill in the rest of the gap and I'll be set on the exterior.
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Obligatory ground clearance picture. Clea re qnce itself isn't bad, but the lip sticks out far enough that it makes gong through dips quite interesting.
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Just adding what you added made it look lower already, plus i guess you said you did adjust the ride height by 1/2" or so. Looking good, makes me want one. Hmmm.......?

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Wow, not much clearance at all. I hit my chin spoiler on my Mustang all the time and it's not even lowered.


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Just adding what you added made it look lower already, plus i guess you said you did adjust the ride height by 1/2" or so. Looking good, makes me want one. Hmmm.......?

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Water channels were horrible when I lived in Western Kansas. I don't miss that, it's just random places I hit now.


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Yeah it's just gonna be something I have to get used to. My Mustang was low as well so I'm used to driving a lowered car
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Quick pic from work today. I decided not to purchase that Magnaflow system in hopes of buying a set of wheels over the winter.
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Got to play roadside mechanic today, the fuel line popped off on my buddies car while he was driving on the highway. We had replaced that line last week because he's going E85 and it looks like one of the o-rings tore when we installed it.
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Your friend is lucky!
We could be, just as easily, looking at a picture of a charred EVO on the side of the freeway.

I usually use some petroleum jelly (Vasoline) when reassembling the fuel system, when O-rings are present. It lubes them up real good and everything just slides back together.
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Yeah he is very lucky, it's a high 90* day today. He was smart enough to turn the engine off right when it lost power. We couldn't get it to seal so he had it towed back to his place and now he's waiting to see if he can order just the anodized piece that houses the o-ring.

Next time around we are definitely going to lube it before install. Both of us were pulling a 30hr day when we installed everything so that did not help with thinking logically.
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You guys "run em" yet??

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Unfortunately no, we were really wanting to run them before he converts to E85 but that probably won't happen. I won't be able to take the time off to hit the track any time soon either. Should be a close race on pump gas and I'm just gonna assume he'll pull me until he runs out of gear on E85.
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I've gotta say, the amount of looks this thing grabs is quite surprising. I had an LS2 GTO snapping pictures of it the other day and I can't seem to make a trip down the highway without someone slowly driving up next to me and ogling the car. I've also noticed passengers turning around to take a look multiple times.

I loaned my truck to my buddy with the Evo so I have to suffer and drive the Vette around. But the downside to that is I caught the lip on bump last night and wasn't too pleased with that. Thankfully it only took some paint off.

Anyways, here's a few random pictures from the past few days
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Yes. But are the young ladies taking notice of the car?
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Yes. But are the young ladies taking notice of the car?
So far no and it's quite depressing
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I'm sure that things will turn around soon.


In the meantime though, a friend of mine had a Noble that had a fiberglass lip on it, and in only a couple of thousand miles it was getting pretty beat up! He had a new lip that we were going to install but when we took the old one off, I looked at it and decided that it could be fixed... Along with the scraping problem!
I took some masking tape and used it as reference point to remove about 1/4- 3/8 of an inch off of the bottom of the lip with a belt sander. It got rid of all of the unsightly dings and scrapes, and made a nice straight line across the bottom of the lip again. Most importantly, the car wasn't scraping on every little pebble on the road, and we didn't have to raise the ride height.
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I just need to grow an affinity for alcohol and start visiting clubs and bars. Plenty of shallow girls hang out there.

I might have to do that once it gets bad enough. I can buy a can of spray paint and touch it up for now but once it gets bad I'll sand it down.
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That sucks about the front end. I scratched the crap out of my front spoiler on my car. I normally back into a parking spot, but this just happened to be the one I pulled in head first. You can see it at the bottom of the picture.
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Yeah that's what mine looks like, it was my fault for not paying closer attention to the entrance of the parking garage.
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Hopefully you took it better than I did.


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I was pissed but it wasn't the end of the world because I know I can repaint it.
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Man that sucks recon. Im sure you will have it fixed soon

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It happen last year. It went strait to the body shop when I got back from Florida earlier this year. It happened about 30 mins after I get a phone call from my father telling me that we lost a family member. I was already upset that's why it happened; so I wasn't thinking clearly. After I heard the contact I was beyond furious.
But I've got louvers painted and ready to be installed. I'm still debating on them though.

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Well a cam swap just got moved higher up the list. My belt is chirping in cooler weather, like when I'm driving home from work, and it's driving me nuts. I don't think I'll do anything about it while the weather is still nice, but once winter hits gonna start tearing it apart. Right now my plans are to do a whole new valve train to go with the cam, along with new timing chain and tensioners, new harmonic balancer, and whatever I deem fit to replace while I'm in there. If I find good deals on mods I will try and pick those up as well but the main priority is the balancer and a cam.

I will admit to being bummed that it will put off my ability to get new wheels and tires by about half a year.
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I just need to grow an affinity for alcohol and start visiting clubs and bars. Plenty of shallow girls hang out there.

I might have to do that once it gets bad enough. I can buy a can of spray paint and touch it up for now but once it gets bad I'll sand it down.
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We are already tolerating the Vette.. You becoming a "bar fly" will NOT be acceptable!
It will cut into the mod money too much!
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Well a cam swap just got moved higher up the list. My belt is chirping in cooler weather, like when I'm driving home from work, and it's driving me nuts. I don't think I'll do anything about it while the weather is still nice, but once winter hits gonna start tearing it apart. Right now my plans are to do a whole new valve train to go with the cam, along with new timing chain and tensioners, new harmonic balancer, and whatever I deem fit to replace while I'm in there. If I find good deals on mods I will try and pick those up as well but the main priority is the balancer and a cam.

I will admit to being bummed that it will put off my ability to get new wheels and tires by about half a year.

So are the heads going to get upgraded as well? Or maybe sink some more money for the H/C/I combo.


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