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Old 10-03-2017, 08:11 AM   #1
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Mud says goodbye

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Just what I said. I have traded in my Mustang for a VW GTI. I will miss my friends on this forum and the people that came on my cruises.

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I had good luck with my Stang with only 2 small issues that were fixed under wtty. 2012 base model V6 with MT and the performance package. It was a nice day toy bought new 6 yrs ago that I put approx 2K in mods in (shifting/suspension/sound/stopping) that I bought for a bit under $22k. I got 11K (34k miles very good condition) for it and a good discount on the GTI. I sold it because I wanted a car that was more fun to drive. I could go way faster on two lane blacktop than was smart to go with my Stang but it just didn't have great feel for the driver (even after doing a complete suspension).

The GTI is a 2.0 turbo with the Sport package (brakes/suspension/slight HP boost/LSD) and while I have been breaking it in gradually you can tell it has gobs of torque down low. It starts pulling at 2k and will accelerate at 1800 rpm in high gears. I believe a good driver can hustle a Mustang around a track faster than a GTI, but on the street the GTI feels faster and it has the feel of a Hot Hatch which I like. So far the car is telling me I am getting over 30 mpg but as I mentioned it is being broken in slowly.

I wanted a C7 Vette but Mrs Mud said "YOU ARE NOT SPENDING $50K ON A CAR", drove the BRZ which was slow, the WRX which was fast but not as much fun as I wanted (it felt kinda big). I also asked my sales person Cheryl-Ann at Hammonasset Ford (props to her) to see if there was a base model 2017 GT at a price I was willing to consider but the base models are limited. She did offer to let me order a 2018 at invoice but loosing the big rebates available on the 2017's made that more than I was willing to spend.

I hope to give an update after I have had it for a while but I will be spending time on the VW forums.

Thx and respect to all my friends here

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Well, I am sure you are going to light up the VW forums as much as you have this one. You will be missed....really?......... A VW???
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forgot to mention...I have some parts left over! Look in classified soon for Weathertech floor mats and a nice set of OEM 19" 5 spoke rims with OK condition tires on them.
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Just because you no longer own one does not mean you have to leave and take your knowledge and insight with you.....Hell, I'm still a mod on 3 other forums even though I no longer own whatever vehicle it was at the time that got me on there.....but now that I think about it, it sure does take a lot of my time keeping up with all of them....Good luck!!
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Ot wad fun Mud, but as is being said doesn't mean you have to leave. Shoot, maybe over time the cruises will incorporate more makes and models. Bummer to hear you're done with the Mustang, but at least you're doing what makes you happy.

On side note did you happen to test drive a Golf R? I had the opportunity not long ago. Drove it in a blizzard going from Denver ip to Ft. Collins (home of New Belgium Brewing ) just like you mentioned. Lighter, snappier feel on street and the turbo. When that thing kicked in. It really kicked. Anyway good luck to you and should you decide to get some modding done let us all know!
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I am glad that I had the chance to meet you. The two rides that I did with you were great fun. Hopefully someone else will grab the torch and keep it going. I am also happy to hear that you have bought what you feel is a better drive for you. You will be very happy with your choice I am sure of that. As long as you and the wife are happy is all that matters. Stay safe and good luck. Maybe someday we will run into each other again.

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This has become a forum of friends. Something tells me you will be around.
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Aw, rats!

I do hope you stick around and manage to make an appearance at an upcoming cruise. It wouln't be the same otherwise.

And those 19" wheels--are they the Perf Pack wheels? Just curious...
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My buddy with the ruby s550 came from a GTI. A hot hatch is fine too. Glad you got the real LSD!

Thats for all you've done for the community, will really miss chasing the red 6er through CT backroads!
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Glad to hear you got the ride you were looking for. Will miss you on the cruises as I hope they will continue. if you want to be a co-pilot please join in - you know where to find us. Good Luck with the new ride
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Farewell Strange Mud.
Enjoy your new car!
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Mud, it was great to meet you and enjoyed the cruises I did make. You were a wealth of knowledge to the forum. And hey, you could still use that vw to be a pace car for a heard of mustang going through some great roads. Anyone else feel the same?
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You will be surely missed in the Mustang group. I have to say that I was very surprised to hear that you sold the Stang. My friends speak very highly of the VW GTI and compare it to the 2 series BMW in performance. If you feel the need to hear the roar of a V8 Coyote give me a call. The regular cruise members will miss your awesome guided tours and friendship. All the best, Zack
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So here is a one week 500 mile update:

So far this is what I wanted. After I got it my friend from Hammonassett Ford called to see if I was still interested in a car. She laughed at my choice (did offer a Focus R at less than sticker!) and I realized my three fav cars were a Integra, Triumph Spitfire, and Mazda GLC. I do prefer small cars.

Plz note I am comparing it to my V6 base model with suspension mods and the 3.31 apples and oranges. similar but different!

So far I have been following break in procedures so it is being driven gently and I am starting to explore higher rpms. But, I have gone on my favorite back road loop (the Durhamburg Ring) which is 10 miles of curves and it is a hoot. The trick front LSD really does pull the car out of corners nicely. It really is more fun to drive and speeds are similar enough as to be moot as this is NOT on the track.

The GTI has lots more fancy features than the Stang, I would not have wanted them but the way it was packaged the Sport Model is not a stripper. Good stereo, keyless entry and start (real nice). The overall quality is much nicer it also has the best headlights I have ever had on a car and they swivel in corners! The trunk /hatch with seats up is much smaller than the Stang but the opening is 2x the size....no contest with seats down. There is even room for a not large person to sit behind me (and I am large) the difference in storage is remarkable considering the diff in size. You can really see how the Stang was form over function. I do miss the jealous eyes from folks when I drive by. The GTI is meh to most non-car people but most folks loved the sharp looking bright red Stang .

The motor has GOBS of torque starting at 2k. I find myself in one or two gears higher than the Mustang at the same speed. I filled it 1x and got (using math!) just over 34 MPG. I look on the forums and they all complain about the clutch and shifter....it is a long throw, somewhat floppy with a light clutch but it is way easier to shift. Remember I had the MGW with clutch line and motor mounts I miss the mechanical action but do not miss having to focus on shifting. I want them all to try a MT Mustang to learn them what fussy can be.

I do want to mention that on the 2nd day of driving it I was passed (legally) by a jacked up 4 x 4 truck. I got to see him make a direct hit on a squirrel and watch it as pieces of squirrel meat arced up into the air and landed on my new ride.....also plz check out the classified as I did post up a few things I took out of my car before the trade in (wheels, mats, etc)
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why does everyone who gets rid of their stang act like they have to leave the forum? lol I was on here for a year without a stang. soccerluvr was on here for like 4 years before he actually got one. was just curious
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Good question.... ^^
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It was great having you on the forum Mud. You'll be missed! Stop in form time to time, ya hear!


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why does everyone who gets rid of their stang act like they have to leave the forum? lol I was on here for a year without a stang. soccerluvr was on here for like 4 years before he actually got one. was just curious
That's my question.
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and if a newbie from the New England area shows up with it they can get a hold of me. I did like the car.....

I hope it is not a real Good-bye but know I will be spending more of my time trying to get the VW folks thinking and playing nice.
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There are a few things I will never ever give up,
My Guns.
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My Mustang.
I enjoy them all and everything else can be bought for a price,
(NOT THESE)
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There are a few things I will never ever give up,
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I enjoy them all and everything else can be bought for a price,
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why does everyone who gets rid of their stang act like they have to leave the forum? lol I was on here for a year without a stang. soccerluvr was on here for like 4 years before he actually got one. was just curious

Lol, more like 1 year before I got one.


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Don't anybody worry about Mud, He will be back after the novelty wears off on that thing he bought.
He more then likely will be back in a Mustang in about a year or two.
It's kind of like having a Corvette, The car is great but most of the people you have to associate with to enjoy the car are pretty much """SLUGS""" and not enjoyable to be around.
There are no better people then the Mustang or Camaro people to enjoy a car with.
Oh, Maybe my Street rod friends are a lot of fun to be around.
I once had a Corvette but I hating the Corvette club snobs, I ended up joining the Porsche Audi club to track and enjoy my car.
The Mustang owners are the best, Don't believe me, Go to any event and watch the Mustangs and Mustang people enjoying their Mustangs.
Sturgis , Myrtle Beach, The Hot Rod tour, Maple Grove Pa. Silver Springs Fl., Carlisle Pa. are just a few of the big events that are mostly Mustangs and plenty of them.
It is America and anyone can buy the car of their choice but ME, I'll just keep my Mustang.
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Mud isn't going far. This place has become more about the people than the cars; at least for me.
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Someone else now owns my car....that is good. I hope they also enjoy it. It was in great shape and I hope to see them here or in the real world.
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Someone else now owns my car....that is good. I hope they also enjoy it. It was in great shape and I hope to see them here or in the real world.
Did you leave a note in the glovebox reminding the new owner that red is, indeed, the fastest color?
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Cliff Notes = Function > Form

The above is true as what stands out most for me is I gave up style and looks for practicality and fun. Reminder: base model performance package equipped 2012 V6 with MT/3.31/suspension upgrades to a 2017 VW GTI Turbo 4 cyl Sport MT (Sport is equiv to performance package) stock for now

The good:

I find the GTI to be more fun to drive. I take the long way home and have even more fun on the two lane blacktop than I did with my Mustang. It goes faster on public roads than is wise to go but unlike the Stang there is more "feel" to it. I know the short wheelbase amplifies the sensation of speed but faster than wise is the truth. The TDI engine has an amazing amount of torque down low and likes to be driven different than the 3.7 which came alive at 4k. I have been getting 31-33 mpg on winter blend and not having to get gas until the odo says 340 miles and only needing 11 gallons is nice. I was getting 21-23 in the Stang. There is room for 4 people and with the rear seats folded down I easily fit 4 tires/wheels in the back. I have preached about how I don't really like luxury features but now admit they can be nice. I still would prefer to have performance over lux but I am spoiled already with the key-less entry/ignition. I already just walk up to my truck and try to open the door without unlocking it, then have to fish around for my keys.

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I know this makes me even more of an fool than I am but I really miss the jealous eyeballs I would get when driving the Mustang. Mine was lowered/bright red/with nice rims and I would get lots of appreciative looks from all sorts of people. Even old ladies would occasionally comment "nice car" I now get an occasional nod from WRX guys but that is about it. The Stang was also more comfortable on the hwy even as it made 80 mph seem slow. I find the VW shifter floppy, clutch somewhat difficult to feel, and the brakes being touchy at low speeds are the things that need improvement. Reading on the forums the 1st two are common complaints and they have solutions but I am waiting till spring (I hope) to start making improvements as I don't want to anger Mrs Mud although the clutch one just involves removing a clutch delay orifice in the hyd system.

fit and finish are top notch as are the little details them Germans thought about. It was priced just about what I would have paid for a base model Ecoboost. I never drove one, I knew if I was going to stay in a Mustang it would be a V8 or nothing. If there had been a 2017 base model V8 around I would have considered it but it would have been a hard sell as it would have been around $5k more than I paid for this. They only had premiums left of 2017's and without the big rebates I wasn't going to pay for a 2018 even though my salesperson offered me an order one at invoice. It would have been $30K= compared to the $24K I paid (I also did get good trade in value on my Stang)

I do intend to drive it year round (scored snows/rims from Craig's) and have my truck (12 yo Taco with 130K) enter semi-retirement. So far I am happy with my choice and the fun to drive factor was the main reason I changed cars. My Stang was reliable with only rattles and 2 wtty repairs for problems.

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extra credit! the German word for Butt Dyno is Popo Meter!


Glad you are enjoying your new ride.

Since your sorting a Vdub, you need to look up VW da da da commercials on YouTube and enjoy.
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Thanks for sharing! I always appreciate other enthusiasts sharing their experiences with different cars. I have respected the GTI's ever since the early 2000's, when I lost badly to one while I was driving my modded 94 T-Bird SC 5-speed. I have considered getting a hot hatch to replace the Mustang as our play car in a few years (GTI/Focus RS/etc), but my wife really wants us to get a Wrangler instead. I'm finding it hard to get excited for her idea!
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