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Old 09-14-2005, 02:15 PM   #1
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Which would win?

Mach 1 S/C or a '03 Cobra with like intake and exhaust, just wondering since its practically the same motor.
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Re: Which would win?

Depends on the boost the Mach 1 is pushing, the tires it is running.
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Re: Which would win?

idk, around 10-15 psi and stock tires.
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Re: Which would win?

I would go with the Mach 1
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Re: Which would win?

theres people who can pull 13.4/13.3 in a stock mach-1 who are excellent drivers so id go with a mach
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Re: Which would win?

Is this a standard stock 03 cobra or a cobra with the stock blower and the basic bolt ons (pulley, exhaust, CAI, tune)?

If it is stock, I would lean towards the Mach a little. If it is a bolt on 03, I would say 03 by a car or 2 or 5.

I know I went up against a CAI, 4.10s, and exhaust Mach 1 at the track and beat him handily. He had a .3 jump on me at the light and I had to get off the gas in 1st and 2nd due to bad wheel hop (2.7 60' time for me, 2.1 for him) and I drove by him at the top end and beat him by about 4 or 5 cars or so. (It is on video around here somewhere). I am basic boltons listed above running low rwhp at 434, however I am pushing about 13 lbs or so of boost.
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Re: Which would win?

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Is this a standard stock 03 cobra or a cobra with the stock blower and the basic bolt ons (pulley, exhaust, CAI, tune)?

If it is stock, I would lean towards the Mach a little. If it is a bolt on 03, I would say 03 by a car or 2 or 5.

I know I went up against a CAI, 4.10s, and exhaust Mach 1 at the track and beat him handily. He had a .3 jump on me at the light and I had to get off the gas in 1st and 2nd due to bad wheel hop (2.7 60' time for me, 2.1 for him) and I drove by him at the top end and beat him by about 4 or 5 cars or so. (It is on video around here somewhere). I am basic boltons listed above running low rwhp at 434, however I am pushing about 13 lbs or so of boost.
hm in that case a blown mach-1 with a good driver vs a intake and exhaust 03 cobra could come down to a drivers race
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Re: Which would win?

I still think a good driver in a blown Mach 1 will take a Stock 03 Cobra with intake and exhaust hands down
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Re: Which would win?

I agree, it would be a drivers race.
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Re: Which would win?

they are the same motor aren't they..just the 03 has a supercharger on it and the mach 1 doesn't. and the mach has the shaker
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they are the same motor aren't they..just the 03 has a supercharger on it and the mach 1 doesn't. and the mach has the shaker
Same motor yes but forged internals
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Re: Which would win?

o, the mach doesn't have forged internals? i learned something new today
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o, the mach doesn't have forged internals? i learned something new today
Not that I am aware of... I don't see why they would put Forged Internals into a N/A car
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Re: Which would win?

heres a link to back up what brent said about mach-1s not having forged internals.coming from a mach-1 owner...http://www.fordpower.net/forums/show...4&postcount=14
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Re: Which would win?

stock for stock the mach 1 is just about if not a tad faster with some sticky tires... the cobra IRS is holding it back of course.
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stock for stock the mach 1 is just about if not a tad faster with some sticky tires... the cobra IRS is holding it back of course.
uh stock for stock the mach 1 would lose hands down to a 03-04 Cobra
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Re: Which would win?

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uh stock for stock the mach 1 would lose hands down to a 03-04 Cobra
even with me driving. The IRS is not holding the car back as much as you think it is. It makes launching a little trickier, but once you are moving, it is balls to the wall. Way more than enough to walk a mach 1.
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Re: Which would win?

When is it not a driver's race? I just remember that vid of a Honda with a CAI whooping a vette...
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Re: Which would win?

A stock Mach I is not supercharged, all it has is a shaker scoop whick may help a bit at passing speeds on the road. A Cobra isn't really built for drag racing, it is a highway car, but it is supercharged, IRS is great for highways and track racing, not so good for drags.
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Re: Which would win?

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they are the same motor aren't they..just the 03 has a supercharger on it and the mach 1 doesn't. and the mach has the shaker

They are WAY different. the mach 1 has around 10:1 compression ratio and is not built to stand up to high boost. The cobra engine has the iron block and can handle a ton of boost with around 8:1 compression.

The general configurations are the same, but the specifics are different. The mach 1 motor is more similar to an 01 cobra

The mach 1 motor will probably break at 10-15 psi
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Re: Which would win?

im just going by what ive seen. Ive seen mach 1's do 12.8s and the like.... thats right up there with the cobra, its in the traction of course.
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alright then, could someone roughly tell me waht a mach runs stock and how much it would take for it to get to 13.0 flat. i usually run on average about a .175 RT average with street tires with my gt and im getting better at shifting, so i'd say im a little above average drag driver, just figured that would help with the estimates.
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Re: Which would win?

a 5 speed mach with sticky tires can run right around 13 with a very good driver.

RT has nothing to do with your ET. look more at your 60'
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Re: Which would win?

the race does not matter AT ALL unless its done at a track and you have slips... otherwise its just a waste of time
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I don't know where you guys live, or what track conditions you are used to, but in south La. most stock '03-'04 Cobra's are running mid to high 12's. Those with a 2.93 upper pulley are running mid 11's!!!
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ive seen a good many run, most run 12.8s-13.2s~ with average drivers. Throw some slicks on it and hook it up and no dout it can run mid 12s
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I don't know where you guys live, or what track conditions you are used to, but in south La. most stock '03-'04 Cobra's are running mid to high 12's. Those with a 2.93 upper pulley are running mid 11's!!!
RIght, unless I am behind the wheel, and then you hope for low 13s. My non driving *** gives cobras a bad name, which is why I don't go to the track much.
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RIght, unless I am behind the wheel, and then you hope for low 13s. My non driving *** gives cobras a bad name, which is why I don't go to the track much.

that's like saying "I don't work out cuz I'm out of shape"

get to the track and practice man!!!
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that's like saying "I don't work out cuz I'm out of shape"

get to the track and practice man!!!
Funny you should mention that, cause I don't work out for fear of losing my girlish figure.

Actually, I am not much of a track person. I like to go once in a while just to see what is going on. The main thing is that I don't want to have to pay to replace parts. Once I get some of the stock items replaced (namely the half shafts) I might go a little more often. I will still hold my own from signal light to signal light though.

Now, when I build my project car, whether it be the bad *** V6 or the monster Fox, I will more than likely go more often because it will be built strong from the start.
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I know I went up against a CAI, 4.10s, and exhaust Mach 1 at the track and beat him handily. He had a .3 jump on me at the light and I had to get off the gas in 1st and 2nd due to bad wheel hop (2.7 60' time for me, 2.1 for him) and I drove by him at the top end and beat him by about 4 or 5 cars or so. (It is on video around here somewhere). I am basic boltons listed above running low rwhp at 434, however I am pushing about 13 lbs or so of boost.
are you talking about when we went to state capital, the part "on video around here somewhere" is why i thought that b/c i got that one on vid.........if so, that was a bullit........and yes, the times where 13.2 vs 13.9 in your favor.

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are you talking about when we went to state capital, the part "on video around here somewhere" is why i thought that b/c i got that one on vid.........if so, that was a bullit........and yes, the times where 13.2 vs 13.9 in your favor.

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That's true, it was a bullit wasn't it. Oh well, what I said still holds true.
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