trans filter - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1996-2004 Mustang GT



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 12-13-2005, 07:31 PM   #1
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Region: Tennessee
Posts: 69
Talking trans filter

what up guys! gonna change my trans fluid & filter this weekend. i'm assuming the torque converter has a drain plug. please let me know for sure. anyway, how many quarts do i need? how many would the t.c. hold? thanks for the help.
white 98 gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-13-2005, 10:39 PM   #2
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

i do not believe the torque converter has a drain plug. i think you should be fine with 5 quarts but buy six just incase and return it if you dont use it all.
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2005, 11:54 PM   #3
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Region: Tennessee
Posts: 69
Re: trans filter

thanks for the info dude. don't you sometimes post on mustang forums?
white 98 gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-14-2005, 08:52 AM   #4
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by white 98 gt
what up guys! gonna change my trans fluid & filter this weekend. i'm assuming the torque converter has a drain plug. please let me know for sure. anyway, how many quarts do i need? how many would the t.c. hold? thanks for the help.
Not sure about what you are asking??? The torque converter is inside the bell housing and is not accessible unless you take the transmission off. Are you really asking about the trans pan. If you are no there is not a drain plug. However the pan is made of thick enough material to tap it for a plug if you have the know how and want one.
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 12:40 PM   #5
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Region: Tennessee
Posts: 69
Re: trans filter

danger dude, sorry, thought my question was pretty straight forward. yes, the t.c. is in the bell housing. there is a rubber grommet about the size of a .50 piece on the bottom of the bell housing. if you remove it you can see the t.c. some converters have a small drain plug in it(to drain the converter). just didn't know if mine did or not. guess i'll find out when i put it up on the rack. my trans pan does not have have a drain plug, have to unbolt the pan to empty fluid. like you were saying, it would be nice to have a drain plug for the pan. don't know where i can have that done though. have a good day.
white 98 gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 03:10 PM   #6
Moderator Emeritus
Legacy
Regular
 
SpectorV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Alabama
Posts: 26,049
Send a message via AIM to SpectorV
Re: trans filter

most losten teh bolts a bit then drp the back/front bolts down to start the fluid drain, then they remove the pan all together. They can then get to the filter pretty easy. After that you just go in reverse making sure to replace teh gasket if needed, some are reuable so check on that.
__________________
2003 Cobra Vert (Redfire) #3938 of 5082 @ 05/27/2003
472rwhp/493rwtq -Modification List - Dyno Sheet
2012 Mustang 3.7L M6 (Kona Blue)
2011 Ford Edge Sport (Red Metallic)
SpectorV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 03:10 PM   #7
Moderator Emeritus
Legacy
Regular
 
SpectorV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Alabama
Posts: 26,049
Send a message via AIM to SpectorV
Re: trans filter

also it takes a ton of fluid... and you will have to cycle though the gears a few times to get it to start to shift after your done. ALOT OF FLUID mine nearly took 10 quarts if i remember right.
__________________
2003 Cobra Vert (Redfire) #3938 of 5082 @ 05/27/2003
472rwhp/493rwtq -Modification List - Dyno Sheet
2012 Mustang 3.7L M6 (Kona Blue)
2011 Ford Edge Sport (Red Metallic)
SpectorV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 03:20 PM   #8
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 182
Re: trans filter

so this is the only way to add transmission fluid? sorry if i sound stupid about this... but i have been thinking that it probably needs to be done, but i havent been exactly sure how to change it out. You just unbolt the transmission pan and the fluid is sitting inside of that?
__________________
1999 3.8 V6 Electric Green Mustang
5 speed

Mods: MAC Dual Catback Exhaust, MAC Shorty Headers, CAI, Sequential Taillights, 03 17" Cobra Rims

My Garage
electricstang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 03:21 PM   #9
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpectorV
also it takes a ton of fluid... and you will have to cycle though the gears a few times to get it to start to shift after your done. ALOT OF FLUID mine nearly took 10 quarts if i remember right.
Wow that much out when you removed the pan???? Typically only about half the fluid comes out the pan and the rest stays in the TC.
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 04:56 PM   #10
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
lowflyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Region: Mississippi
Posts: 19,890
Send a message via AIM to lowflyn
Re: trans filter

Spector has a 5 speed.
__________________
"I'm not driving too fast...just flying too low"
Mine:
-03 SB Cobra vert- 2552 of 5082 Born 02/25/03
Our's:
90 7up vert - new project-07 DSG Focus -DD
335
lowflyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 06:00 PM   #11
Moderator Emeritus
Legacy
Regular
 
SpectorV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Alabama
Posts: 26,049
Send a message via AIM to SpectorV
Re: trans filter

I had a 97 auto before that though (mustang)
__________________
2003 Cobra Vert (Redfire) #3938 of 5082 @ 05/27/2003
472rwhp/493rwtq -Modification List - Dyno Sheet
2012 Mustang 3.7L M6 (Kona Blue)
2011 Ford Edge Sport (Red Metallic)
SpectorV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 06:53 PM   #12
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpectorV
I had a 97 auto before that though (mustang)
how the helldid you get so much fluid out? dd you have the car running with the pan off to get all the oild out? thats is a very bad thing to do.
it should not need that much fluid
and replce the gasket even if it looks fine clean the mating surfaces and apply a small bead of high temp rtv all around. and bolt it back up.
i doubt the tc has a drain plug, most cars dont.
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 06:54 PM   #13
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by lowflyn
Spector has a 5 speed.
they dont have ten quarts, they use like 4 total.
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 08:56 PM   #14
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 232stang
how the helldid you get so much fluid out? dd you have the car running with the pan off to get all the oild out? thats is a very bad thing to do.
it should not need that much fluid
and replce the gasket even if it looks fine clean the mating surfaces and apply a small bead of high temp rtv all around. and bolt it back up.
i doubt the tc has a drain plug, most cars dont.
There is only 2 ways to get all the fluid out safely

1. Complete Disassembly
2. Cooler Line Flush Machine or Pump Inlet Flush Machine and pump inlet flushing is prefered

And as a matter of fact I had a Pump inlet flush and filter change today. It is pricey but well worth the cost on a performance tranny
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:00 PM   #15
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danger Dude
There is only 2 ways to get all the fluid out safely

1. Complete Disassembly
2. Cooler Line Flush Machine or Pump Inlet Flush Machine and pump inlet flushing is prefered

And as a matter of fact I had a Pump inlet flush and filter change today. It is pricey but well worth the cost on a performance tranny
i have no idea how spector got 10 quarts out just by removing the pan. thats crazy
yeah the flush is pricey, but i think that if one does the oil changes a bit more frequently than recomended, a flush shouldnt be something that has to be done.
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:08 PM   #16
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 232stang
i have no idea how spector got 10 quarts out just by removing the pan. thats crazy
yeah the flush is pricey, but i think that if one does the oil changes a bit more frequently than recomended, a flush shouldnt be something that has to be done.
Actually it is very good to do if you go about every 2-3 years between flushes in High Perfromance application or hard use. I could feel the difference the time it shifted. It is real ggod especially for transmissions with regular trans fluid where varnish and sludge form and does not come out with just the pan removed. It removes all the old fluid and replenishes it with new
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:11 PM   #17
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danger Dude
Actually it is very good to do if you go about every 2-3 years between flushes in High Perfromance application or hard use. I could feel the difference the time it shifted. It is real ggod especially for transmissions with regular trans fluid where varnish and sludge form and does not come out with just the pan removed. It removes all the old fluid and replenishes it with new
werd, i just dont think its nessesary for DD vehicles, how many of us even have heavily modified engines.
i agree though if someone has a lead foot all the time then a flush is a good idea.;
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:16 PM   #18
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 232stang
werd, i just dont think its nessesary for DD vehicles, how many of us even have heavily modified engines.
i agree though if someone has a lead foot all the time then a flush is a good idea.;
Actually if you are one of those guys that has never had a trans filter and fluid change in 5 or more years you a good candidate for a flush
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:37 PM   #19
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
lowflyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Region: Mississippi
Posts: 19,890
Send a message via AIM to lowflyn
Re: trans filter

Hm...I have 68k miles...and have never changed my tranny fluid, think I should look into it corey? lol...I don't mind spending the money if it's gonna make a difference. I need to install a tranny cooler as well...might find a cool shop that'll drain/flush, let me hook up the tranny cooler, and then refill. Just scared my hard shifts with the chip are gonna kill my tranny.
__________________
"I'm not driving too fast...just flying too low"
Mine:
-03 SB Cobra vert- 2552 of 5082 Born 02/25/03
Our's:
90 7up vert - new project-07 DSG Focus -DD
335
lowflyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:51 PM   #20
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by lowflyn
Hm...I have 68k miles...and have never changed my tranny fluid, think I should look into it corey? lol...I don't mind spending the money if it's gonna make a difference. I need to install a tranny cooler as well...might find a cool shop that'll drain/flush, let me hook up the tranny cooler, and then refill. Just scared my hard shifts with the chip are gonna kill my tranny.
Actually Hard shift are better than smooth shifts on a tranny. The reason the manufacturer sets up cars for smooth shifts is for comfort. Most buyers would not by a car that jerked them or if they feel the shift. No matter how you look at it performance buyers represent only a small fraction of buyers.

When a tranny shifts smooth it is actually engaging slowly when it does this it is slipping the clutches in the tranny causing additional wear but gives a smooth shift.

With a firm shift the tranny slips very little causing a positive engagement and much less wear.
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:53 PM   #21
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
lowflyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Region: Mississippi
Posts: 19,890
Send a message via AIM to lowflyn
Re: trans filter

Hm...didn't know that, I figured the quick shifting caused more heat for some reason. But..what you said makes sense. And yeh..ask anyone who has ridden with me...both upshifts and downshifts are fast. Downshifting from 3rd to 2nd will lose traction on a wet road sometimes.
__________________
"I'm not driving too fast...just flying too low"
Mine:
-03 SB Cobra vert- 2552 of 5082 Born 02/25/03
Our's:
90 7up vert - new project-07 DSG Focus -DD
335
lowflyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:56 PM   #22
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

more quick a shift, means there is less slippage, and less heat.
at 68k miles i really do reccomend a flush.
there are people far wose than you though, i did it for a friend once who had never changed the tranny oil in her minivan it had

























138k miles
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2005, 09:56 PM   #23
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by lowflyn
Hm...didn't know that, I figured the quick shifting caused more heat for some reason. But..what you said makes sense. And yeh..ask anyone who has ridden with me...both upshifts and downshifts are fast. Downshifting from 3rd to 2nd will lose traction on a wet road sometimes.
Actually Slipping causes friction which causes heat and glazing which causes more slipping and eventually failure. In performance trannys you just need to pay more attention to fluid changes
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2005, 10:04 PM   #24
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
DarkShadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 1,734
Send a message via AIM to DarkShadow
Re: trans filter

I need to do this but am not looking forward to doing it in the winter.

Should take no more than 5 quarts. Unless you're SpectorV and have the big bertha.
Heat is an enemy to trannys and faster shifts cause less heat build up.
Make sure, if you can find it, to use pure synthetic fluid. It's like synthetic oil, you wouldn't think it would make that much difference until you actually use it.
__________________
DarkShadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2005, 10:12 PM   #25
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
lowflyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Region: Mississippi
Posts: 19,890
Send a message via AIM to lowflyn
Re: trans filter

O, I only use mobil 1 synthetic oil, live by the stuff now. Engine has a smoother run now, there was always a little give in power before. I know I probably just imagined this...but it's my mind that matters neways lol.
__________________
"I'm not driving too fast...just flying too low"
Mine:
-03 SB Cobra vert- 2552 of 5082 Born 02/25/03
Our's:
90 7up vert - new project-07 DSG Focus -DD
335
lowflyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2005, 11:06 PM   #26
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
DarkShadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 1,734
Send a message via AIM to DarkShadow
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by lowflyn
O, I only use mobil 1 synthetic oil, live by the stuff now. Engine has a smoother run now, there was always a little give in power before. I know I probably just imagined this...but it's my mind that matters neways lol.
Heck yes! I'm not the only one that thought that! It starts up better, and just seems to all around run smoother. I read somewhere that they did a complete fluid swap on a vehicle, don't think it was a Mustang but anyway, they changed all the fliuds to synthetic, dynoed it before and after, and found that it caused a 25 hp gain. Might have been different condidtions but I think that amount is greater than an error ratio.

Anyway, Mobile 1 owns.
__________________
DarkShadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 08:26 AM   #27
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Jumping from regular oil to synthetic is noticable as far as engine smoothness but power increases would only be noticable if you had your crankcase filled with sand!!!!!!! The real lowdown on synthetic oil is ANY SYHTHETIC IS BETTER THAN REGULAR OIL PERIOD. I typically use Castrol but if it is on sale I will use Mobile one but I have used just about every synthetic and I refuse to use Amsoil or Royal purple simple because I dont like being raped of my money for something that is overpriced. Same with oil filters I am not spending 3 X the money for a K&N oil filter if I am going to throw it away in a few months. You can read some of my past post on synthetic oil and filters to get more in depth on this subject
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 08:38 AM   #28
Moderator Emeritus
Legacy
Regular
 
SpectorV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Alabama
Posts: 26,049
Send a message via AIM to SpectorV
Re: trans filter

it was flushed back in the day, before I got out of highschool so i may be off... but im sure it took a good bit. I belive it was the same time as my shift kit was installed... that may allude to something.
__________________
2003 Cobra Vert (Redfire) #3938 of 5082 @ 05/27/2003
472rwhp/493rwtq -Modification List - Dyno Sheet
2012 Mustang 3.7L M6 (Kona Blue)
2011 Ford Edge Sport (Red Metallic)
SpectorV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 08:49 AM   #29
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpectorV
it was flushed back in the day, before I got out of highschool so i may be off... but im sure it took a good bit. I belive it was the same time as my shift kit was installed... that may allude to something.

BACK IN THE DAY!!!!2: MUHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHA what 2 years ago MUHAHAHAHHAHHAA

Man when I say back in the day I am usually talking about before your parents were born MUHAHAHHAHAHAHA
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 12:12 PM   #30
Moderator Emeritus
Legacy
Regular
 
SpectorV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Alabama
Posts: 26,049
Send a message via AIM to SpectorV
Re: trans filter

I was in high school 5 years ago~
__________________
2003 Cobra Vert (Redfire) #3938 of 5082 @ 05/27/2003
472rwhp/493rwtq -Modification List - Dyno Sheet
2012 Mustang 3.7L M6 (Kona Blue)
2011 Ford Edge Sport (Red Metallic)
SpectorV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 01:27 PM   #31
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Way back in the day 5 years ago HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA



YOU FUNNY :thumbs2:
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 02:17 PM   #32
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

corey graduated high school in what year?









































time was not invented at that point in history.
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 04:04 PM   #33
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Danger Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: South Carolina
Posts: 5,187
Send a message via AIM to Danger Dude
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by 232stang
corey graduated high school in what year?


time was not invented at that point in history.
1979 you fart knocker!!!!
__________________
Danger Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 06:04 PM   #34
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Region: California
Posts: 4,272
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danger Dude
1979 you fart knocker!!!!
holy **** your old, i wanst even born yet
STEVE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2005, 06:24 PM   #35
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
slvr2000stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Illinois
Posts: 1,160
Re: trans filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danger Dude
1979 you fart knocker!!!!
Damn I am older than you.

Even non modified daily drivers can take advantage of a tranny cooler.

I try to get my trans flushed every 30k.
I am a little past due so I will get it done while I am on vacation now.
__________________
Custom Delk motor now DOA
2003 SVT Lightning #1059 of 4270
2000 Vert 4R70W
Only buy from vendors that test and stand behind their products
slvr2000stang is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1996-2004 Mustang GT

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
00 3.8L trans help!!! jaiveson Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 5 02-21-2009 08:55 AM
New 5.0L Trans. TBone 1979-1995 Mustang GT 0 05-04-2004 09:47 PM
cold air k&n filter PN/filter size tire Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 0 12-05-2003 06:37 PM
Trans Am GT??? .:DarkEntity:. The Bar 10 09-17-2003 04:17 PM

» Like Us On Facebook



02:51 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.