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Old 02-11-2006, 08:03 PM   #1
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Im bout to buy a predator from this guy for like 250-300 you think that is a good buy? Plus if any of you have used it on any of your cars i would like some feedback from yall. It fits a 98-04 so im guessing it wont be any promblem puttin it on my 00 gt. He has a 02 gt and he said you can feel a big difference. But i would like some feed back please.
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I bought mine for $300 new from the site no one likes on here (rpmoutlet)

I used it.. I definitely noticed better throttle response and mildy better top end, but you have to use premium.. I more bought it so I could recalibrate my speedometer for the gears I'd put in (I had an '02 GT also..)

for comparison.. pre-predator I ran 14.5s pretty solidly.. shorty headers + diablosport ran 14s flat at 4 MPH higher all around (from 95 MPH to 99.. best MPH was 99.98).. all on 2.1+ 60'..
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talk to the tunners on the site and get a REAL tune with the hand held, the drop in ones you get directly from them are garbage.
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yea its the handheld tuner. thanks for your feedbacks
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:36 PM   #5
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I'll give my standard reply here...


Do some research in your area and see what performance tuning shops with a dyno there are and what they prefer to use. If you were to get a diablo around here you would be SOL because all of the shops tune with SCT in my area.
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true, but seeing that both handhelds have just about the same ability in terms of tuning, i really dont think it matters much. both have fuel and timing timing in 2 rpm ranges. not much more than that to it, pretty general and easy to use.

besides, if youre going to a dyno, the info you want is from the wideband o2. do a run, see where your rich/lean, and make some changes via the handheld, and run again. first and foremost on a FI or NA app, get timing advanced as much as possible, thatll net more power. then if you have timing as far as itll go before pulling timing(which will show as a bog in rpm increase, as it should be a gradual line or a fast spike, if it starts to slow down, you have issues), you can either add fuel if you can to help ward off preignition/knock which will get timing back on track but run richer up top, or you can back off the timing and get the a/f into spec. its all personal reference. for nitrous fed apps, you want very little timing. i think the given is every 50shot is a reduction of 1* of timing, though im not 100% sure on that. with nitrous, having low timing and a correct a/f ratio is the key issue at hand. a good a/f to shoot for on nitrous is richer than the a/f for a fi/na app, people i know usually shoot for a 10-11:1 a/f ratio. on fi/na apps, as close to 12:1 is pferred depending on setup(how strong the motor and power/heat it can handle, as you get closer to stoich at wot it builds up more heat exponentially)

tuning a car is really not as hard as its made out to be. i really wish there was a program im used to in the dsm world on mustangs, it would put all these tuning companies to shame in seconds, and using it is worlds faster than any handheld that takes 5 minutes to upload a new tune/prefrences into the ecu, whereas i was used to clicking "copy to ecu" and it was done in a second, and could even be programmed WHILE car was moving, making changes didnt affect the ecu at all, i could be doing 3rd gear pulls while my buddy was holding the laptop, and id be telling him what to change.
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^ That's pretty sweet
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Re: Predator

Hey guys..sorry to interrupt this thread...but I don't know how to start a new thread.

I have a 2003 mustang GT with the interior upgrade package....which includes an aluminum ring around my shifter. My headlight knob broke..actually came off....quite EASILy..and ACCIDENTALLY for me

NOW..I want to get one of those metal knobs..but I don't know what finish to get...silver anodized...chrome polished....machine finish...I want it to match my shifter ring...ALSO..the little clip to install the original knob broke...do the "new" knobs come with a replacement clip??..Any info would be appreciated..as I hate using needlenose to turn on my headlights..lol...

Thanks

Again..sorry for re-posting.....
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the headlight knob uses a allen wrench to tighten the knob to the shaft. id get whatever ones look more like the polished interior stuff, which i think closest is brushed aluminum(brushed and polished, same concept).

btw, welcome to the site.
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