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Old 12-09-2010, 03:07 PM   #1
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New parts ordered!

I just received the Kenny Brown Matrix Kit and ordered the H&R race springs with new isolators! I have an IRS brace already! Anything else I might need to install all this?

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Re: New parts ordered!

If you have access to a lift is what I recommend, removing the rear stock springs is a little challenge, of course the fronts aren't a walk in the park either. You will have to undo about 4 bolts on each side in the rear to replace the springs.
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i know christmas is not for another couple of weeks thanks... you need my address?
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Re: New parts ordered!

you have CC plates? If not pick up a set of them from maximummotorsports, are the new isolators polyurathane? If so send them back and pick up OEM ones or reuse your stock one as the Poly ones raise the car up about .5 inches vs OEM isolators so you wont get as good of a drop.

are the subframe connectors weld in? They should be so a shop can knock that out for you. it has to be done a drive on lift (well not HAS to be but I would highly recommend it as on a 4 post it has to be done so the gaps are perfect before you weld)
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i know christmas is not for another couple of weeks thanks... you need my address?
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If you have access to a lift is what I recommend, removing the rear stock springs is a little challenge, of course the fronts aren't a walk in the park either. You will have to undo about 4 bolts on each side in the rear to replace the springs.
He has an IRS not a live axle, but still its just about the same difference. Unbolt the exhaust hangers or take the catback off if you perfer.

Use a jack and take pressure off the lower control arm and then remove the lower shock bolts on each side

Remove the back IRS frame bolts one on each side. I think thats it, lower the IRS (must have it supported before removing the frame bolts) and the springs fall out. Reverse process to install. Now is the time to install button head rear IRS frame bolts
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you have CC plates? If not pick up a set of them from maximummotorsports, are the new isolators polyurathane? If so send them back and pick up OEM ones or reuse your stock one as the Poly ones raise the car up about .5 inches vs OEM isolators so you wont get as good of a drop.

are the subframe connectors weld in? They should be so a shop can knock that out for you. it has to be done a drive on lift (well not HAS to be but I would highly recommend it as on a 4 post it has to be done so the gaps are perfect before you weld)
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No I have not ordered the CC plates! What are these and where to they go? Yes I order the polyurethane type isolators, ****! Really? they rise back up? that sucks. So just use the ones on there? the car only has 21K miles on it! They should be good I guess. GOOD TIP BTW.

Yes I have the Kenny Brown Matrix kit and it states that they need to be welded in. It will be done at ZZP were I get all my parts for my SSEI. They have talented welder at ZZP and am very happy with all the work they have done for me in the past and my best bud works there as shop manager.


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Re: New parts ordered!

Caster Camber (CC) Plates go on the front shock towers in the engine bay. They allow for adjustment of camber and caster to either enhance cornering/handling, or bring the car back to proper specs to prevent uneven tire wear and unecessary stress on the rest of your suspension components.

PM John at NQS...he's a site sponsor and carries Maximum Motorsports CC Plates which are the best out there. I would definitely get the 4 bolt plates.
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Re: New parts ordered!

CC plates are definalty a MUST.
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It already starts the mods for the cobra. I would do the same. Take the winter now. I am completely doing my inside
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Re: New parts ordered!

Sweet! Thanks guys! So I should get the caster camber plates shown below. Is there anything else I need to make these work with the stock struts?

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Re: New parts ordered!

those look perfect, but you need to call MM and tell them those are the ones you are going to put on your 03 cobra and to get you the right dust boots (probably already know but make sure you are getting the right ones as they are different)\

just send back those isolators, they will raise the car up about .25-.5 inches~ OEM ones are perfectly fine. I have both OEM isolators in the back on mine and I have one I left out in the front.
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those look perfect, but you need to call MM and tell them those are the ones you are going to put on your 03 cobra and to get you the right dust boots (probably already know but make sure you are getting the right ones as they are different)\

just send back those isolators, they will raise the car up about .25-.5 inches~ OEM ones are perfectly fine. I have both OEM isolators in the back on mine and I have one I left out in the front.
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Thanks again! You and the other guys are most helpful! I want everything to be perfect on my Cobra. I will for sure return the isolators because I want the same stance as what i see on your ride. It's just perfect! DO you have the CC Plates on yours?

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Re: New parts ordered!

Just a quick thought!

Do I really need the CC plates? I am not going to be racing on any road courses. I am more of a point and shot kind of guy. Seems this may put unnecessary wear on my tires................. Or is it just to have them.....
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Re: New parts ordered!

Ford didnt really give any adjustment for camber on the Mustangs with the stock setup. As the car lowers due to the A Arm design the top of the tire tucks in. Since your car will be 2 inches lower always (or how ever much the drop gives) then the tires will always be tucked inward more due to the suspension geometry.

Once you go much more than an inch (every car is different) it becomes out of specification. Since you cant adjust the stock camber (in/out angle) you have to use aftermarket caster/camber plates to allow you to put it back to stock specifications.

You could technically install the springs and see if it can be aligned but I doubt it will be. If it cant be you will have to pay to have the CC plates installed or do the work yourself which is just about like doing springs in a few ways.

Might as well get it all done at once, should save on labor. The CC plates are under 200 bucks and are a high quality unit and look great as well.

They allow for GREAT camber/caster adjustment. The top plate can be fliped side to side on the maximum motorsports units to allow more negative camber for cars that are dropped more or those that simply want more negative camber.

With the H&R race I think you should consider CC plates. Also when you lower the car the strut is pushed into the strut body more all the time (car is lower all the time now) the CC plates from MM let the strut come up a bit more to take some of that back out so this helps as well a bit~


Thats mainly what they are for and not for handling performance, just for the ability to align the car easier/better. Without them you will eat away the inside of your tires much quicker.

I have MM 4 bolt CC plates (only ones they sell that I know of) and I love them, they require a new hold to be drilled but its not bad.

get with the sponsor on the forum they can get you a good deal on a set I am sure. link http://www.mustangevolution.com/foru...-2/#post804548


upon installation keep in mind the TQ specs MM provides and ALL the steps given. Also, the top plate is flipable for more/less camber so keep this in mind as well. I am sure it talks about it in the installation info.
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Re: New parts ordered!

That was the answer I was looking for! Thank you SpectorV! I will purchase them as well. Besides, its only money, you can always make more.
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also ask them about the strut dust boots for the 03/04 cobras as they are different and needed (and you DONT want to have to put them on later lol they need to go on as the springs or rather CC plates go in)
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Re: New parts ordered!

I will call them today and I will make sure I mention the strut boots.

Do you ever head north for any car shows during the summer months? I would like to meet up sometime and buy you a beer for all your help.
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Re: New parts ordered!

As I said on another thread, you probably want to look into getting a bumpsteer kit too
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I go up into TN and such now and again. Hopefully we can get another ME.com meet together somewhere and all get together and hang out... cruise maybe?? many idea can be come up with im sure.

Helping is part of what makes a Mustang a great car to have and what makes it the most popular car club type. I only learned what little I know from asking myself so its payback lol.

Ive never had any issues with bump steer (bumps in the road causing the car to steer itself) but if you do as said get a bump steer kit to fix the geometry of the tire rod/a arms.

its odd how some cars have it and some dont, road conditions are a factor here as well im sure.
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its odd how some cars have it and some dont, road conditions are a factor here as well im sure.
I'm sure living in Louisiana doesn't help things.
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true, around here the roads are not bad other than a few areas on the interstate that suck
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