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Old 02-24-2011, 05:56 PM   #1
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Wassup fellas I'm new to the site just found it while I was re searching some stuff seems cool and I'm sure I'm ganna learn alot of stuff for my stang now on to the point lol.

I have a 96 gt vert. I was riding and something cracked leaked out my oil and locked my engine. So now I'm in a position of buying a motor I'm saying to my self I might as well get something better then the stock gt 4.6 I had. Now what gets me is being that I'm not tip good with this stuff I heart people saying I can fit anything from 96 to 04 author a problem at all then I see people telling about pi's and sttoker engines what I need its some advise.if you guys were in my position head singer money to spare what would YOU do to get some good power out of my pony. Thanks for the advice in advanced

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A mechanic who was beasting to work on my ride tells me he can put a 5.0 in but all my research tells me the 5.0 was discontinued so again thanks in advance
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You can find a used 5.0 motor or a build a nice motor. You will just have to change mounts and harness . The good thing will be that you will not have to have a programer to change things like you had to have on the 4.6 . I would not go back with a 4.6 at all if I was you. You can do so much more with a 5.0 motor for alot cheaper than you can do on a 4.6. Your body style was the same as the 95 and it should all work out.
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I have a 5.0 transplant in my 96
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I would find a 5.4 truck motor to bolt in. Easy to find and get parts for and mondo gobs of torque. Depends on your budget. Turbo 6er would be cool or a 32v 4.6 or even cooler a 32v 5.4
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I'm guessing it would be cool to have a 5.4 motor out of a truck . Being that the motor is alot bigger and would be a pain in the a$$ to get in that 96 body . Your just asking for punishment plus those motors are know for blowing spark plugs through the block. Just do a 5.0 and be done with it. Don't think I have yet to see a 5.4 in a 94-99 body style It would have to be more trouble then good almost like trying to put a rectangle in a circle hole.
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I'm guessing it would be cool to have a 5.4 motor out of a truck . Being that the motor is alot bigger and would be a pain in the a$$ to get in that 96 body . Your just asking for punishment plus those motors are know for blowing spark plugs through the block. Just do a 5.0 and be done with it. Don't think I have yet to see a 5.4 in a 94-99 body style It would have to be more trouble then good almost like trying to put a rectangle in a circle hole.
I am pretty sure the 5.4 is the same size as the 4.6. Just a different bore and stroke. So exactly what's bigger. It's the same block and heads as a sohc 4.6... And I just googled it and the 5.4 and 4.6 are the same bore and the 5.4 had a longer stroke but they are the same block. So tell me again why it's bigger...
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When the motors are assembled fully the 5.4 motor is bigger than the 4.6 every day of the week . I have pulled and installed enough motors to know that it is bigger.
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The wide world of google is not always right to the end. The block might be close to the same size as one another but again you have to add all the parts to make it whole .
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When the motors are assembled fully the 5.4 motor is bigger than the 4.6 every day of the week . I have pulled and installed enough motors to know that it is bigger.
I just went onto the ford site and the outside dimensions are the same. So ford says they are the same. And I know for a fact I can put pi heads on a 01 5.4 liter block. And google directs you to sites. So I went to the ford site where ther tell you how the modular motors started. In what cars they came in. I refuse to argue with you. I know what I saw and read from ford. K
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The 4.6 has a 8.037 deck height vs 10.079 for the 5.4. So the 5.4 will be about 1.45 " taller and 2.9 " wider

Go to moddedmustangs.com and read the section about 5.4 is bigger than 4.6 and then get back with me when you learn a little bit more about what you think you know .
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Ford is only going to tell you the block size not overall height and width of full assembled engine .
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The 4.6 has a 8.037 deck height vs 10.079 for the 5.4. So the 5.4 will be about 1.45 " taller and 2.9 " wider

Go to moddedmustangs.com and read the section about 5.4 is bigger than 4.6 and then get back with me when you learn a little bit more about what you think you know .
If you are gonna try to tell me an inch higher and 3 wider makes it a difficult fit your high. And I went to the ford site so perhaps you should read what ford wrote about their motors k. And read what I wrote. I said same block so take your attitude and shove it. K
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:33 AM   #13
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It will make a difference in that body style because you will have to change hood and cut car to make motor fit properly. I just want to make sure your telling people correct thing and not false hopes . I love it when I prove a point because name calling comes out!!!!!! You really hurt me
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:37 AM   #14
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What are you just going to put a block down in the car???? What about all the other parts. Your telling some one to put a 5.4 truck motor in 96 stang and you have know clue what you are talking about. That intake on a 5.4 truck makes low end torque and would be a waist to put in that car .
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Ok cool so I should find a 95 5.0 engine is what you fellas are telling me would be the best thing to do and I would also have to get the 95 engine harness aswell? Cuz they stopped making them in 95. So then I could do a whole lot more to that engine should it be a specific 5.0 engine and of course its ganna be used im assuming since they dont make em no more but whats a good milleage to buy an engine 60k whats a good proce too lol. Sorry for all the questions im,a newb
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You can probably find one for about 1500 and then put about 2000 dollars in heads , cam , intake and your harness and comp should be doing good with proper timing and set up of engine . The good thing is is that you don't have to have a programer to change settings of cars motor and the way it runs. You do it all by hand .
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Ok so what type of mechanic should I go to then.cuz I have a mechanic charging me 800 dollars just to put in the same 4.6 engine I dont know what to do. He doesn't seen to know nothing about dropping a 5.0 in there then between the mounts and harness I'm waisting 2k on just the engine and main parts to mount it I guess the heads and can shafti can do later on as an upgrade and do the pi thing which I dont even know what it is lol. But my martin concern is if I tell some one ima drop a 5.0 week they know that they have to adjust the computer and changer then mounts and harness and still it givr me any computer errors
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Re: Locked motor

the 5.4 WILL hit the hood , you need a tubular k-member to make it work
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:18 PM   #20
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I'm honestly thinking of just getting rid of the damn thing cuz im friggin lost
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:20 PM   #21
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Thank you stampde finally someone that has a clue about the 5.4 .
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A good mechanic and reliable shop will no how to put a 5.0 motor in that car and make everything work.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:26 PM   #23
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How much is it going to cost you for the 4.6 motor he wants to put in?
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:28 PM   #24
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Is 800 just labor?
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I spoke to another mechanic he says he can do the 5.0 swap for 700 thats just the labor now.i have to find a 5.0 engine does it matter the year? And which motor mounts and engine harness will I need or is it some custom ones?
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Well turbo he found.me a 96 4.6 for 650 with maybe 90k miles
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But another thing im hearing is I can.just like an 02 4.6 and it would give me more horsies but the 5.0 would be less headaches I just dont know what it would do to my computer like when I went to get it inspected and stuff id probly have to get the fake inspection every year llol
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I wouldn't mess around. Just put a 4.6 back in and put PI heads on it and get cams. My friend has a 98 GT and did that. Dyno'd at 300 hp and wasted my 00 GT. And you won't have to worry about wire harnesses and computer issues and someone doing a hodge podge job putting it together. Stay modular. You can get plenty of power out of them. Choose the right mods and it won't be too pricey
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5.4 2v. Pi heads. 5.4 intake. Done. Unless you want to port the heads and do cams as well. With the heads ported and cams. 330+ at the tires depending on port work. Direct swap. Everything bolts up except the intake.
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And they make a spacer for the 5.4 so that you can put a 4.6 mustang intake on it but hood clearance might be tight
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There is a good cast 5.4 intake out there designed just for this. Can't remember who makes it. h&r? Its like 600 bucks. Much better than spacers.
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Ok I dont want you guys to think I need my hand held to do this but your kind of confusing me I thought we were done with the 5.4 engine talk or are those exterior pieces that I can put on to a 4.6 engine? Also between polishing the heads and pi heads cams and intake are those things that can be done after the engine is is or does the engine have to be removed again to get it done? Also if I do go simple with the 4.6l it should be between a 2000 and 04 correct? Cuz if that's the easiest solution I'm just ganna have that done
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You can probably find one for about 1500 and then put about 2000 dollars in heads , cam , intake and your harness and comp should be doing good with proper timing and set up of engine . The good thing is is that you don't have to have a programer to change settings of cars motor and the way it runs. You do it all by hand .
You can find a good complete low mileage motor for less than 1500.. The 5.0s are powerful, but the 4.6 dohc comes stock with more power. that's probably what I'd do.
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Yes if you go with a 4.6 go for 00-04. Easiest solution for you.
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