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Old 03-29-2011, 12:37 AM   #1
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Kenne bell supercharger

Do I need to get a forged rotating assembly if I were to run it at 14psi.

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4.6 2v

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Why 14 psi?

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Re: Kenne bell supercharger

I'll say this much, if you don't you're on borrowed time with it.
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Why 14 psi?

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Im in cali I don't thing the cops are a big fan.

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Is the blower a roots type pos displacement or a side mount centrifugal?

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I'll say this much, if you don't you're on borrowed time with it.
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Is the blower a roots type pos displacement or a side mount centrifugal?

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Roots type

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The problem with roots type is it makes hp all the way up rpm. My dyno sheet shows over 550hp from 2500-6500rpm. It almost flatlines. 14 psi might be much. You should be able to swap pulleys though. Take it down to about 10 psi with a good safe tune and test it. If it seems to be holding well. Then you can bump it up. If it was centrifugal, it doesn't make peak boost and hp for a while so it's a little safer but not as efficient. Look into a fluidamper also. Might help with a stock bottom end. Also, check into whipple. I prefer them over kenne bell.

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Anything over 400 hp on stock 2v internals is borrowed time

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The problem with roots type is it makes hp all the way up rpm. My dyno sheet shows over 550hp from 2500-6500rpm. It almost flatlines. 14 psi might be much. You should be able to swap pulleys though. Take it down to about 10 psi with a good safe tune and test it. If it seems to be holding well. Then you can bump it up. If it was centrifugal, it doesn't make peak boost and hp for a while so it's a little safer but not as efficient. Look into a fluidamper also. Might help with a stock bottom end. Also, check into whipple. I prefer them over kenne bell.

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Thanks, im building a motor for the car, I wanna see about 550-600hp without risking blow up.

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Thanks, im building a motor for the car, I wanna see about 550-600hp without risking blow up.

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Your gonna need internals unless you can get hold of a 4v motor which I would recommend.

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Thanks, im building a motor for the car, I wanna see about 550-600hp without risking blow up.

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You need forged internals for sure. Stock 2v blocks can handle 800 hp so any donor block will be fine but the crank and rods,pistons all need to be forged. And if you are building the motor anyway get notched pistons. These mod motors are ptv interference motors. At some point in the rotation the valve occupies the same area as the piston so without notched pistons you are very limited in cam choices. And al has a great idea in finding a 4v motor,it opens up alot more options for you

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The 03-04 cobra has the same block right

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The 03-04 cobra has the same block right

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The cobras have a teskid block. Stronger than the 2v blocks. The teskid can handle 1200 hp

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Ok good info ill check into a 4v.

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You can find teskid blocks for 300 bucks. They were in the lincolns too so there are alot of them kicking around. Good luck with your build. Keep us informed would ya

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Re: Kenne bell supercharger

I'll re-iterate what every one else says : FORGED INTERNALS Dude !!
Kenne Bell makes an awesome blower !! All my Boys run them .... can't go wrong with it .
My one friends 07 GT500 Is pumping out 805 at the rear Wheels ,with about 18 psi through the stock exhaust ....... Car is unbelievable !!!!! same guy also has one on his SRT8 Challenger and its running 10.50's ,stock exhaust also .....
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Lol 550-600 hp is gonna run you probably 15-20k done right
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Lol 550-600 hp is gonna run you probably 15-20k done right
That depends on the car. My engine build cost me 18000 and I built it from scratch. But I'm putting down 650 rwhp. The new GT 500 are incredible with the amount of power they can make without spending some serious cash
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The cobras have a teskid block. Stronger than the 2v blocks. The teskid can handle 1200 hp

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yeah dont listen to this...

03-04cobras have iron blocks which yes is the same as the block in a 2v mustang gt

iron blocks can handle over 1500hp

they say its best to stop at 1100 on a teskid block

so in other words either block will handle whatever you want to throw at it..


and a kenne bell is a twin screw not roots style blower..

and yes do not do 14lbs on a stock internal 2v motor..

what kb are you look at the 2.1 or 2.6 or bigger lol...

what are you goals for the car and what do you plan to do with it..500-550 is easy to do...just need a built motor,enough fuel,cams and can be done with the stock unported heads(need cams though) but if you have ported heads that will help also...good luck on your build..
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That depends on the car. My engine build cost me 18000 and I built it from scratch. But I'm putting down 650 rwhp. The new GT 500 are incredible with the amount of power they can make without spending some serious cash
holy S**t just your engine build cost you $18,000 what all did that include...did it include another mustang with it lmao...
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I still think the easiest and cheapest way out is to convert to a 4valve motor. I'm at 574rwhp and safely tuned 93 octane. It will be a lot cheaper and easier to do a swap.
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I still think the easiest and cheapest way out is to convert to a 4valve motor. I'm at 574rwhp and safely tuned 93 octane. It will be a lot cheaper and easier to do a swap.
not really it will be about the samae..still need to find a pullout cobra longblock..that runs abour $4000-5000 range...need all the heatexhanger,i/c pump,i/c tank and all..

then still need fuel system..

at 575 you must be pullied and ported or a whipple or small kb..

my cobra is at 640 on 93 and my lil 2v when finished here in the next couple of monthes should be about 700 on pump and high 800 on race..
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also still way easier to work on a 2v.. dont have to lower the k member/pull motor to pull the valve cover...less of an overrall headache
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not really it will be about the samae..still need to find a pullout cobra longblock..that runs abour $4000-5000 range...need all the heatexhanger,i/c pump,i/c tank and all..

then still need fuel system..

at 575 you must be pullied and ported or a whipple or small kb..

my cobra is at 640 on 93 and my lil 2v when finished here in the next couple of monthes should be about 700 on pump and high 800 on race..
Yeah whipple pullied. That 4v I think is the safer bet. But thinking that way. If I was in his shoes and planning to spend that kind of money, might as well sell the car and buy a terminator already built. I like easy ways.
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yeah but then you have a car not and more insurance to pay!!!!!!..

yeah my cobra is a 2.3 at 21lbs.. cobra is fun..but its nothing like busting a cobras *** in a lil gt to the see owners face hahaha..

who tuned your car? stang high?
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yeah but then you have a car not and more insurance to pay!!!!!!..

yeah my cobra is a 2.3 at 21lbs.. cobra is fun..but its nothing like busting a cobras *** in a lil gt to the see owners face hahaha..

who tuned your car? stang high?
Yeah Cody did it.
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yeah dont listen to this...

03-04cobras have iron blocks which yes is the same as the block in a 2v mustang gt

iron blocks can handle over 1500hp

they say its best to stop at 1100 on a teskid block

so in other words either block will handle whatever you want to throw at it..

and a kenne bell is a twin screw not roots style blower..

and yes do not do 14lbs on a stock internal 2v motor..

what kb are you look at the 2.1 or 2.6 or bigger lol...

what are you goals for the car and what do you plan to do with it..500-550 is easy to do...just need a built motor,enough fuel,cams and can be done with the stock unported heads(need cams though) but if you have ported heads that will help also...good luck on your build..
Really? Every thread I have ever read said in essence that the teskid blocks were stronger. And I read the iron blocks were only good to 800. That is enlightening and I am gonna have to study now.

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Really? Every thread I have ever read said in essence that the teskid blocks were stronger. And I read the iron blocks were only good to 800. That is enlightening and I am gonna have to study now.

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