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Old 06-13-2011, 05:04 PM   #1
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First things first...

I bought my stock 03 gt 6 months ago and I'm finally putting some money into "her." I plan to get some long tube headers and new exhaust, a throttlebody, plenum, intake, and of course a dyno tune with all this. However, I am only doing a little bit at a time. I have no idea where to start, but I can't help wanting to lower the suspension first.

If I do, is this going to affect any of the other mods I'm getting done? Any suggestions from those of you who have already spent your money, sweat & tears on these kinds of projects?
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Lowering is a must. unless you get side exhaust or something it shouldn't interfere.

What about gears and a tune? Do you have an aftermarket exhaust?
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I haven't done anything yet, so my exhaust is still stock. I'm getting a tune when I get the intake, throttle body & plenum put on, after exhaust & headers. The tune is so damn expensive and it's going to cost me another couple hundred every time I need it adjusted, so I am holding off on it as long as possible. I just don't want to screw up by dropping the car and then have issues with exhaust work later. I'm still learning what can be done... any other suggestions or input will definitely be appreciated!
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Re: First things first...

Auto or manual?

First mods I'd do would be subframe connectors, upper and lower control arms, and some mufflers or a catback. You get a more sturdy car that will last longer, more confident suspension, and the sound a mustang is supposed to have.

Next I'd do the CAI, TB, Plenum all at once...

Then I'd do longtubes, mid-pipe, and a tune

This way, you do the mods that don't require a tune until last.....

If you do gears (which I would HIGHLY advise), I'd say do that the same time you do the longtubes/mid-pipe/tune.....because you'll need a tune for those gears

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It's a manual, and man I really appreciate the feedback!
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Auto or manual?

First mods I'd do would be subframe connectors, upper and lower control arms, and some mufflers or a catback. You get a more sturdy car that will last longer, more confident suspension, and the sound a mustang is supposed to have.

Next I'd do the CAI, TB, Plenum all at once...

Then I'd do longtubes, mid-pipe, and a tune

This way, you do the mods that don't require a tune until last.....

If you do gears (which I would HIGHLY advise), I'd say do that the same time you do the longtubes/mid-pipe/tune.....because you'll need a tune for those gears

-Will
+1, this is a good list of mods, but have you considered a tuner off of Americamuscle.com? Free tunes for life from their tuners in BAMA tuning so they'll make new tunes everytime you do a mod.
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Is it as dependable as putting the car on the dyno? I've checked them out but I don't fully understand how they work.
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Is it as dependable as putting the car on the dyno? I've checked them out but I don't fully understand how they work.
From what I understand, they dyno tune a bunch of cars up there to provide the best tunes. Yes a dyno tune will be better, but fir the price, they can't be beat. And another thing... You'll have to buy a handheld tuner to get it dyno tuned anyways, so why not buy it through them in the first place, use the tunes they give you while you're still building up your car, then get a nice dyno tune once all the mods are done. That's what I would do in your situation. In the end it's up to you, knights suggestion would work too.

Edit: and there are a ton of guys on here that use their tunes and love them. Just PM DDTCM and ask him his opinion on bamas tunes.
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Re: First things first...

Make sure and budget for a clutch in there somewhere.....you'll probably need it eventually, especially if you ever put some sticky tires on it

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Make sure and budget for a clutch in there somewhere.....you'll probably need it eventually, especially if you ever put some sticky tires on it

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I haven't needed one yet, and I've gotten 1.6 60's out of the NT05Rs on the car now 61k miles on car/clutch and a fair # of sticky tire track passes

Mod list is almost identical to what was listed above, but no upper control arms, headers or midpipe (catback is only exhaust mod) + 10PSI through a procharger
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Re: First things first...

You know that as soon as you start the modding process it like the energizer bunny it keeps going and going and going ...............
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You know that as soon as you start the modding process it like the energizer bunny it keeps going and going and going ...............
You got that right... Need mo money!
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I have the Bama flash tuner and its nice. You are able to tell a differnce. They ask 19 questions that pertain to mods and then they will provide the best custom tune with those mods
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This forum is the best thing since sliced bread. Thanks again to everyone for the great advice. Your experience is going to help me avoid a lot of growing pains!
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Re: First things first...

We are here to help when we can and evewn when we can't that is what the stang people are all about helping each other out when possible.
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I have bama tunes as well and love them with my sct tuner.
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Auto or manual?

First mods I'd do would be subframe connectors, upper and lower control arms, and some mufflers or a catback. You get a more sturdy car that will last longer, more confident suspension, and the sound a mustang is supposed to have.

Next I'd do the CAI, TB, Plenum all at once...

Then I'd do longtubes, mid-pipe, and a tune

This way, you do the mods that don't require a tune until last.....

If you do gears (which I would HIGHLY advise), I'd say do that the same time you do the longtubes/mid-pipe/tune.....because you'll need a tune for those gears

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Fully agree here. Save the tunes for last. And buying the tuner from American muscle with free tunes for life is a great idea.
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I haven't needed one yet, and I've gotten 1.6 60's out of the NT05Rs on the car now 61k miles on car/clutch and a fair # of sticky tire track passes

Mod list is almost identical to what was listed above, but no upper control arms, headers or midpipe (catback is only exhaust mod) + 10PSI through a procharger
Being an exception as opposed to the rule isn't a good reason to go around leading people down the wrong path.

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Re: First things first...

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Being an exception as opposed to the rule isn't a good reason to go around leading people down the wrong path.

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How is that leading people down the wrong path? The stock clutch can take a beating in a lot of cases. When I was a ford tech, we wouldn't see these needing clutches until the cars hit 150k+ usually a lot more. I didn't say say it's not a good idea to set the budget aside for a decent clutch just in case, but in no way does it need to be one of the first modifications done, nor should it be expected for a while.
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Re: First things first...

just start with the basics

exhaust
intake
lowering springs
sub frame connectors (full length weld in or dont bother)
shifter (if manual)
under drive pulley
upper intake
tune
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How is that leading people down the wrong path? The stock clutch can take a beating in a lot of cases. When I was a ford tech, we wouldn't see these needing clutches until the cars hit 150k+ usually a lot more. I didn't say say it's not a good idea to set the budget aside for a decent clutch just in case, but in no way does it need to be one of the first modifications done, nor should it be expected for a while.
Yeah I actually JUST replaced the stock clutch with a cheap one, missed a great opportunity to put a better one in with a lightweight flywheel. Those will have to wait awhile.
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How is that leading people down the wrong path? The stock clutch can take a beating in a lot of cases. When I was a ford tech, we wouldn't see these needing clutches until the cars hit 150k+ usually a lot more. I didn't say say it's not a good idea to set the budget aside for a decent clutch just in case, but in no way does it need to be one of the first modifications done, nor should it be expected for a while.
Yes, stock clutches often last 100K+ miles...and they're not usually launched on a good set of tires too often either.

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