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Old 08-13-2011, 11:36 PM   #1
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Beat an LS1?

Ok I have a 2002 auto Mustang GT with a CAI and thats all. What would be the cheapest way to make this car be able to beat a LS1 from a standstill in a perfect world?
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I'll say this again and hopefully no one gets at me for this, but a small shot of nitrous. But remember cheap and fast not reliable, reliable and cheap not fast, reliable and fast not cheap
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I'll say this again and hopefully no one gets at me for this, but a small shot of nitrous. But remember cheap and fast not reliable, reliable and cheap not fast, reliable and fast not cheap
+1 Nitrous is the cheapest way.
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I dont think I will be using Nitrous any time soon I want power thats there 24/7
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I dont think I will be using Nitrous any time soon I want power thats there 24/7
Then buy a supercharger or turbocharger.
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Yah I think thats about the only way to do it but those are thousands of bucks
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Put and ls1 with cams. Haha
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now that would make some people mad a ls1 gt lol
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You could port and polish your heads and cams and a 75mm tb. That will do it. I know for a fact that by doing those things only you can make your car run about 370 hp depending on cams. That's a fairly cheap way to make great power. Or you could buy a set of patriot heads for about 1500. That's about the easiest and cheapest without nitrous. Add some stickies on the rear and 3.73 or 3.90 on the rear and you'll be a powerhouse between lights.
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You could port and polish your heads and cams and a 75mm tb. That will do it. I know for a fact that by doing those things only you can make your car run about 370 hp depending on cams. That's a fairly cheap way to make great power. Or you could buy a set of patriot heads for about 1500. That's about the easiest and cheapest without nitrous. Add some stickies on the rear and 3.73 or 3.90 on the rear and you'll be a powerhouse between lights.
Port and Polish my heads and cams and an aftermarket TB will put me at 370?
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You could port and polish your heads and cams and a 75mm tb. That will do it. I know for a fact that by doing those things only you can make your car run about 370 hp depending on cams. That's a fairly cheap way to make great power. Or you could buy a set of patriot heads for about 1500. That's about the easiest and cheapest without nitrous. Add some stickies on the rear and 3.73 or 3.90 on the rear and you'll be a powerhouse between lights.
Where are those numbers coming from..? An '03 GT is pushing like 230hp at the wheels, probably.. Cams will ad maybe 25rwhp with an upgraded intake, and the port and polish... I can see maybe like 280-315rwhp at best, unless I'm wrong? If I'm wrong.. Then I know what I'm doing next.

Edit: Just re-read what I typed. I didn't mean to argue. I'm just trying to get numbers straight because I am wanting to get my car up to the 300rwhp mark and have been reading a lot. That's all.
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That's engine hp not rwhp. They did exactly that in an article of mm&ff and that's what the motor did on an engine dyno

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If your looking at 300 rwhp as a goal this will get you about 320 rwhp so if that's close enough then do it but if it's to much just get a not so aggressive cam.
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Yah I think thats about the only way to do it but those are thousands of bucks
Horsepower costs money.
How fast you end up going is always determined by how much you spent.

Check out some of the articles here MM&FF for some ideas.
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Horsepower costs money.
How fast you end up going is always determined by how much you spent.

Check out some of the articles here MM&FF for some ideas.
+1. They do great stuff and do it right
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That's engine hp not rwhp. They did exactly that in an article of mm&ff and that's what the motor did on an engine dyno

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If your looking at 300 rwhp as a goal this will get you about 320 rwhp so if that's close enough then do it but if it's to much just get a not so aggressive cam.
Heard that! That doesn't seem too bad, really! Roughly $600 in cams, $250 for the throttle body(even though I already upgraded to a 70MM so I wouldn't get a 75), and how much is a port and polish?

Oh, and like $300 for new valve springs because I'd want to go with a bigger lift than stock could handle.. XD
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Do it yourself to save money. Very easy to do with a rotozip or air file. I'm planning on doing it to mine when i actually take the heads off to put in my forged internals.
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Do it yourself to save money. Very easy to do with a rotozip or air file. I'm planning on doing it to mine when i actually take the heads off to put in my forged internals.
Heard that! Forged assembly is like $2k, isn't it?
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Yea roughly

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I think mine building it myself outside of a kit is about 1800. But when your looking at about 700 engine hp that's a must.
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