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Old 10-27-2011, 07:02 PM   #1
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04 GT, cats deleted, Flowmasters, CAI. Cheap 245's for the rubber.

Buddy of mine has an 04 WRX. I am fairly confident he is going to get a spanking at the track next week, but I am concerned about my launch against an AWD. I'm not out to destroy my car, and neither is he. I just need a little advice on a safe, effective launch.
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Is he stock? If he has a tune and few minor bolt ons alone he will likely beat you every time. Best bet is get you some DR's. Only way you have a chance. AWD is great on launch. If he has experience. A lot people can't launch the WRX's and big them at the line.

Also you a auto or manual for launching help?
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I launched at 3 grand and spun them. I only had 3.55s. I have a manual transmission. 2400-2600 should be a good launch range if you got a manual
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I'm a manual. He runs 14.2's at best with a Tune.
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If you know how to feather your clutch you can launch at just about any rpm without spinning. Clutches are like brake pads and tires, made to wear. If you're not prepared for that, you shouldn't race. Just sayin.
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I am enrolled in ASE master's courses. I understand a vehicle. Understanding the components doesn't make me able to launch my car though. I believe with what he runs, with a good launch I will beat him. We're buddies so its no grudge match, I was just hoping for some general tips for the guy who isn't always out racing his car.
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Very nice! The best advice is repetition! You gotta get out their and find your personal sweet spot. You know your car better then anyone else. Your parts and your own driving technique is your own. Practice,
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Go that way, really really fast and if something gets in your way... Turn!
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Thanks man. I think ill just practice a little behind my work (its a huge warehouse) I figure a couple launches will at least get me a little feel for it. I'm sticking to my prideful prediction of a Subaru loss!
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I'm a manual. He runs 14.2's at best with a Tune.
This is what he has ran? or what you think it runs? They are low 14 sec cars stock. WIth tune/down pipe/cold air/catback they have went mid 13's. Its all if he can drive it.

Being a manual and saying have cheap tires start at 1400 or so rpm's and work way up. You will want to learn to slip/feather the clutch out so don't blow the tires off,
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Very nice! The best advice is repetition! You gotta get out their and find your personal sweet spot. You know your car better then anyone else. Your parts and your own driving technique is your own. Practice,
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This is what he has ran? or what you think it runs? They are low 14 sec cars stock. WIth tune/down pipe/cold air/catback they have went mid 13's. Its all if he can drive it.
14.2 is his best pass, proven by both my eyes and slips when I wasn't in attendance. I always saw the WRX rated in the mid 14s stock so that number seemed right. We even bet what he would run after he installed his Accessport, he thought he would run in the 13's but I guessed 14.1. He is basically intake, exhaust, and the Cobb Accessport right now.
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14.2 is his best pass, proven by both my eyes and slips when I wasn't in attendance. I always saw the WRX rated in the mid 14s stock so that number seemed right. We even bet what he would run after he installed his Accessport, he thought he would run in the 13's but I guessed 14.1. He is basically intake, exhaust, and the Cobb Accessport right now.
Technically.. Isn't an '04 GT running around a 14.2 as well?
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Technically.. Isn't an '04 GT running around a 14.2 as well?
That was my understanding... Stock. I may only have a CAI, and exhaust work (I forgot to mention I have a UPR shifter in there too..) Should put my estimated time a little up on him. But this is all speculation. My guesstimation is victory, but I know its going to be a good race or three.
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That was my understanding... Stock. I may only have a CAI, and exhaust work (I forgot to mention I have a UPR shifter in there too..) Should put my estimated time a little up on him. But this is all speculation. My guesstimation is victory, but I know its going to be a good race or three.
Well more power to ya! At any rate.. The race will be a blast!
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I'm just hoping I don't get whipped, I was considering a WRX when I decided on my car lol
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Well the wrx are a pretty good car. Good thing it's not a sti though. Lol those 4 cyl have more power then our v8. Simply because of the massive turbo
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:21 PM   #18
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Oh I know all about those. Another friend of mine has a fully built STi that ran a 12.5 the other night. He had to spray co2 all over the intercooler to get those numbers... But he got 'em. I ended up buying the mustang because it has more potential, its American, and it costs less to build up.
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Yep. More cylinders, more displacement, MORE POWER. That thing he used was probably a cryo2 setup. Lol why doesn't he just get an actual methanol injection system or nitrous lol
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It wasn't a "system" at all. He and the WRX guy got some paintball tanks filled, popped the hood, and hosed the top mount down before each run. He wants to do meth supposedly, I don't know why he doesn't. He has everything else done. Blocks even cryo treated.
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I've heard meth injection is a pain to set up but well worth it
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:59 PM   #22
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Re: Launching

Well my stock 02 GT with only a CAI, auto trans all I could get out of it was a 14.88. The paper lies! They pry did these tests on a run way not a slippery drag strip. A huge thing that helped me was lowering tire pressure to 35lbs.



This shows that the strip does not always show good times. This is me vs a new 5.0
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:58 PM   #23
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If I run what is esentially a 15 I am selling my car.
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14.2 is his best pass, proven by both my eyes and slips when I wasn't in attendance. I always saw the WRX rated in the mid 14s stock so that number seemed right. We even bet what he would run after he installed his Accessport, he thought he would run in the 13's but I guessed 14.1. He is basically intake, exhaust, and the Cobb Accessport right now.
So he ran 14.2 with just a tune and now added the other stuff? Yet you think he will run the same?

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Oh I know all about those. Another friend of mine has a fully built STi that ran a 12.5 the other night. He had to spray co2 all over the intercooler to get those numbers... But he got 'em. I ended up buying the mustang because it has more potential, its American, and it costs less to build up.
If he is FULLY BUILT STI and only ran 12.5 he needs to get a refund from who ever built it. We have a few fully built STI's around me that 9's and 10's. Still full weight and all. Tune for E85/bolt ons seen them run low 12's.

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NOt to mention fully built he should make least 600-800whp depending on what block he went with and turbo.
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Okay... He ran 14.2 WITH his mods.. I have no proof that the STi is "fully built", so I'm not arguing with you... I only have one to use as reference and it runs a 12.5.
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Okay... He ran 14.2 WITH his mods.. I have no proof that the STi is "fully built", so I'm not arguing with you... I only have one to use as reference and it runs a 12.5.
I am asking about the 14.2. With what mods. You said with just cobb tune then later said he is cobb/exhaust/intake. SO that why i put a ? mark. So he had all them mods when he ran his 14.2.

And yes the one that ran 12.5 is nowhere close to being built. Call him on his BS.

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14.2 is his best pass, proven by both my eyes and slips when I wasn't in attendance. I always saw the WRX rated in the mid 14s stock so that number seemed right. We even bet what he would run after he installed his Accessport, he thought he would run in the 13's but I guessed 14.1. He is basically intake, exhaust, and the Cobb Accessport right now.
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I am asking about the 14.2. With what mods. You said with just cobb tune then later said he is cobb/exhaust/intake. SO that why i put a ? mark. So he had all them mods when he ran his 14.2.

And yes the one that ran 12.5 is nowhere close to being built. Call him on his BS.
Sorry for the confusion.. The guy ran 14.5 with intake and exhaust, bought a cobb, and ran a 14.2. We all guessed what he would run with the Cobb even. So he will be running the exact setup that did 14.2.
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Ok...Should be a drivers race then. Tires are going to really hurt you.
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Well I guess the only thing to do now is wait and see how it goes. I won't be able to get out there with him until the 12th.
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Lol your not going to run in the 15s with a Manuel. I could see that from a auto without a tune. If you don't do as good as you like what you need to do is get new rear gears and a tune and you'll change your whole game. Our cars have terrible stock gears for racing.
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Lol your not going to run in the 15s with a Manuel. I could see that from a auto without a tune. If you don't do as good as you like what you need to do is get new rear gears and a tune and you'll change your whole game. Our cars have terrible stock gears for racing.
Yeah. With how my '02 is setup up right now I should be able to pull a 14-14.1 after a little practice. You shouldn't be much higher. Maybe a tenth or two.
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Well Manuel and I are going to get out there and try our absolute best! I always thought GTs were faster than it seems they are. Am I going to have to buy a blower?
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My best run was a 13.78 with street tires. I have 4.10s and a few other bolt ons.I got the tires a bit warm and kinda eased into the launch. I didn't let the clutch fly. Once I was moving it was hammer down from there. 60 ft was a 2.0.
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What Size tires do you have out back? Cuz on my 98', Even from a roll around 1500Rs, I would have trouble hooking up, now I have 315 Nitto's, and have had no problem hooking up, except for now when it is almost 45* out. lol
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What Size tires do you have out back? Cuz on my 98', Even from a roll around 1500Rs, I would have trouble hooking up, now I have 315 Nitto's, and have had no problem hooking up, except for now when it is almost 45* out. lol
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What Size tires do you have out back? Cuz on my 98', Even from a roll around 1500Rs, I would have trouble hooking up, now I have 315 Nitto's, and have had no problem hooking up, except for now when it is almost 45* out. lol
I have 315s also. Sumitommo or however you spell it. I don't get great traction on the street but if they are warm enough on a sticky track they seem to do just fine
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