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Old 12-06-2011, 05:39 AM   #1
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94-98 gt

5.0 or 4.6 let me hear your preference and why. 5.0 hp and torque and hp to weight specs along with the 4.6. Trying to decide what car im going to buy
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For me it was 5.0 or nothing at first, I was so pissed off when I drove the first 96 mustang with that new overhead cam 4.6 engine and smaller displacement, it felt so weak honestly, and I really hate to say it but I turned to Chevys LT1 during those dark times, but then I saw a 4 valve in a modular cobra!, it looked so huge stuffed in that little stang, I liked it! Then, in 99 when they brought out the new edge horse I was deff crazy over the styling and with the PI heads came more power for the GT ford was stepping it up, then in 2002 or 2001 I read that they were making a cobra with a supercharger on it, right from the factory, in 02 I saw it!! The 2003 SVT Cobra!! AKA the Terminator!! When I read the specs on that car and saw that top fuel like looking blower set up under the hood!, I knew ford had finally turned me into it's follower forever, and it just got better since then haha, I have owned more than 40 stangs since my first one at 17 (86 GT) to my current ones (10 anni 03 cobra, 07 GT 500) but I restore wrecked stangs so it's a little easier to get cars than most people, guess I'm bless there lol, I know I've been rambling like a freak on the question so here is my answere!, I don't know! Yep that's right lol I can't say which I like more, I love both engines and I'm just glad we have these kind of cars to enjoy sorry for talking so much and still not really answering, but anyway, WIDE FU_KING OPEN TILL DEATH!!!!!! WooHoo!!
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I was looking at the 03 SVT cobra w the supercharger too but like anyone else money is the hard thing to come but that's why I was looking at the older 5.0 4.6 gt
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I love the GTs too dude, and that 94/98 body style is awesome with the right set of wheels! A dude owned a black 98 in my town with a set of staggered chrome bullets and lowered and a cowl hood,when I see that car coming at me I can't tell if it's a 94 or 04 but it's sharp! I think I would pic the modular engine in those years, and I'll tell you a little secret of how to make a 96-98 modular GT a bad ***, put a set of heads from a 99-04 GT on it!, it raises the compression like 1 static point! And the 96-98 block is supposed to be better than the 99-04 blocks, I've driven a 98 GT with the PI swap, it's much faster than normal, a great building point to start from, hope that helped!
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Me personly like the 5.0. It's easier to work on. Parts are more readily acessible and aftermarket parts are cheaper thsn the 4.6. But I know if u have the money to sink in a 4.6 they can be made into some really good motors. So pretty much it's a prefremce thing and how much money your lookin to put into it to make it faster. But I have a 94 gt and I love it. I'm always tinkering around on it. And I love the sound of the 5.0s. Alot of people will say the 5.0s are weak but after u put gears and a h/c/I swap on it it will wake up like no other. So if your just now getting into the Stang world I would go with a 5.0. Like I said easier to work on and easier to mod. But the choice is yours
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:32 AM   #6
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No just gettin into sold mine cos I had a family wife and 3 kids. Im trying to get back into it again I love the stands. What is a H/C/L swap? I'm looking for power cos I'll drag it from time to time just for fun. I used to run a car club called DOMESTIC MUSCLE and I'd love to do it again thanks for the help I'm sure I'll b asking lots of qyestions

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Old 12-06-2011, 10:04 AM   #7
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H,C,I = heads, cam and intake swap
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:27 AM   #8
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Oh well shoot me a guess at what u think that'd cost me to make it BA
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Said this several times, I would not own a non PI 4.6L 96-98. There numbers are comparable but they have issues and they are slow IMO.
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Said this several times, I would not own a non PI 4.6L 96-98. There numbers are comparable but they have issues and they are slow IMO.
94,95 5.0s are just as slow until you put some boost or HCI. With just bolt ons there pathetic
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94,95 5.0s are just as slow until you put some boost or HCI. With just bolt ons there pathetic
Yup, except the head and intake gaskets don't blow and the intakes don't crack. Parts are cheaper, more available and easier to install.

As far as bolt on parts the 5.0L respond much better.
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Very debatable. All engines have the weak points. But yes I would rather a 5.0 than a 4.6 any day
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I'd take the 99-04 4.6 over the older 5.0 any day!.. I've raced against several and only one beat me!.. All had similar mods as my car!..
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I'd take the 99-04 4.6 over the older 5.0 any day!.. I've raced against several and only one beat me!.. All had similar mods as my car!..
If we are talkin stock. Pi motor for sure. I'm about to do a pi swap on my 96 and it's gunna put me above the pi as far as power cuz it raises compression to 10:1 on a non pi bottom end.
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Ok I'm seeing alot of PI stuff spell it out for me one time so I understand
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I love my 94 gt and it is a great car and the 5.0 is easier to work on that much is true but the down side to the 94-95 5.0 is the ecu's they do not like mods like h,c,I with out tuning, but once you get a good tune your golden! seen guys make 300+Rwhp on a basic gt-40 swap with a good cam and bolt ons so there is alot of potential in the platform! But also one thing to think about is the emissions laws in your area 95 and below vehicles have to be dynoed for the emissions test while 96 and up just plug into your ECU! So with a 95 and under stang depending on mods and exhaust you may not be able to pass emissions! where as you could have a fully built 96 and up stang and as long as your CEL isn't on and the inspector can see cats under your car you will pass and be able to get your tag!
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Ok I'm seeing alot of PI stuff spell it out for me one time so I understand
Performance improved.
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P.I= power improved, better flowing heads and intake and better cams where used on the 99-04 gt mustangs so putting those heads on a 96-98 gt with get better flow and higher compression ratio and get you anywhere from a 30 to 40 hp increase!

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P.I= power improved, better flowing heads and intake and better cams where used on the 99-04 gt mustangs so putting those heads on a 96-98 gt with get better flow and higher compression ratio and get you anywhere from a 30 to 40 hp increase!
Meant to say performance improved
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P.I= power improved, better flowing heads and intake and better cams where used on the 99-04 gt mustangs so putting those heads on a 96-98 gt with get better flow and higher compression ratio and get you anywhere from a 30 to 40 hp increase!

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Meant to say performance improved
I've heard around 50 to 60 hp range. We will see though.
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I've heard around 50 to 60 hp range. We will see though.
That very well may be true depending on supporting mods and tune, also seen guys make more power by using p.i cams and intake on non-PI heads and having the NPI heads ported and making more power than a full p.i swap
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That very well may be true depending on supporting mods and tune, also seen guys make more power by using p.i cams and intake on non-PI heads and having the NPI heads ported and making more power than a full p.i swap
I plan on all of the above. I'm doing a mild port my self. And if I can find a nice set of stage 2 cams I might do those as well.
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I love my 94 gt and it is a great car and the 5.0 is easier to work on that much is true but the down side to the 94-95 5.0 is the ecu's they do not like mods like h,c,I with out tuning, but once you get a good tune your golden! seen guys make 300+Rwhp on a basic gt-40 swap with a good cam and bolt ons so there is alot of potential in the platform! But also one thing to think about is the emissions laws in your area 95 and below vehicles have to be dynoed for the emissions test while 96 and up just plug into your ECU! So with a 95 and under stang depending on mods and exhaust you may not be able to pass emissions! where as you could have a fully built 96 and up stang and as long as your CEL isn't on and the inspector can see cats under your car you will pass and be able to get your tag!
I have never heard of them having to dyno a car for emissions anywhere. As long as all modifications have a carb E.O. # the 95 down should pass.
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The head swap is that a direct bolt on upgrade or is there something that I'm not seeing that's also involved
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I have never heard of them having to dyno a car for emissions anywhere. As long as all modifications have a carb E.O. # the 95 down should pass.
Here in Ga we do I am an emission inspector and we have to put all vehicle 86 to 95 (obd1 vehicles) on a dyno and drive them with a probe in the exhaust to read the exhaust gases coming out of the tail pipe and the exhaust coming out has to meet certain regulations set by the EPA and gcaf ( Georgia clean air force)

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Here in Ga we do I am an emission inspector and we have to put all vehicle 86 to 95 (obd1 vehicles) on a dyno and drive them with a probe in the exhaust to read the exhaust gases coming out of the tail pipe and the exhaust coming out has to meet certain regulations set by the EPA and gcaf ( Georgia clean air force)
So when you start to modify cars with heads and cams without tuning that will change the levels of certain exhaust gases. Now if they car is tuned right with major upgrades and still has emissions equipment in place it could still pass. Case in point have a regular customer of mine that comes in with a fully built 347ci 400rwhp 93 mustang coupe and still has smog pump, egr and cats and a perfect tune and it passes with flying colors!!!
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Here in Ga we do I am an emission inspector and we have to put all vehicle 86 to 95 (obd1 vehicles) on a dyno and drive them with a probe in the exhaust to read the exhaust gases coming out of the tail pipe and the exhaust coming out has to meet certain regulations set by the EPA and gcaf ( Georgia clean air force)

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So when you start to modify cars with heads and cams without tuning that will change the levels of certain exhaust gases. Now if they car is tuned right with major upgrades and still has emissions equipment in place it could still pass. Case in point have a regular customer of mine that comes in with a fully built 347ci 400rwhp 93 mustang coupe and still has smog pump, egr and cats and a perfect tune and it passes with flying colors!!!
Wow, never knew that, that kinda sucks in a way.

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Yeah it's bs IMO
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I've got a buddy that just bought a 98 GT what intake should he look into I know bout the newer heads but what intake and cam
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There is an intake and cam to match the heads, they are better but still stock type. Can go with the Ford Racing intake as well.
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94-98 4.7 hp and torque specs stock and 5.0 hp and torque specs. Anybody have any ideas
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Re: 94-98 gt

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After much discussion I think I'm going w the 03-04 cobra 5.0 supercharged! Any ideas what kinda power I'd b looking at and what kinda upgrades I could do to gain more I'm wanting 500+
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After much discussion I think I'm going w the 03-04 cobra 5.0 supercharged! Any ideas what kinda power I'd b looking at and what kinda upgrades I could do to gain more I'm wanting 500+
2003 5.0 Cobra uh? Lol
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