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Old 01-22-2012, 05:36 PM   #36
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My bad, y'all r right.... Y'all running 3:73? Plus the tko is geared different too
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:47 PM   #37
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I'm running 3.90s and the tremac 3650 has different gearing as well lol
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:32 PM   #38
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The reason you were beating trans ams is cuz none were ls1 except the 2000. Everything before 99 wasn't a ls1 they made the ls engine in 99 early 2000. The lt1 engines aren't that fast a mustang like yours could beat it. And a ls6 is the same as ls1. Ls3 and ls7 are the badass engines. Y'all will neve be clos to those.

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I'm not hating on mustangs cuz I love them but it's to much money to get into 12s. That's why I'm putting a ls2 in my mustang I'll be running 12s to start off I'ma put alot of work into the engine and hopefully get in the 11s all motor a cobra can't do that an it's supercharged.
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The reason you were beating trans ams is cuz none were ls1 except the 2000. Everything before 99 wasn't a ls1 they made the ls engine in 99 early 2000. The lt1 engines aren't that fast a mustang like yours could beat it. And a ls6 is the same as ls1. Ls3 and ls7 are the badass engines. Y'all will neve be clos to those.
Define never be close. Once everybody starts putting money into their car, it becomes more of a drivers race and less of what car so you have.
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:46 PM   #40
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Sorry to tell you but they made the 98 camaro with the ls1. I know 2 guys with a 98 and I have seen the engine several times and helped work on them. I can beat a new stock SS. It's no different then beating a bolt on gto with a ls2. I know the lt1 isn't that fast but still rated higher then the 2v motors.
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The reason you were beating trans ams is cuz none were ls1 except the 2000. Everything before 99 wasn't a ls1 they made the ls engine in 99 early 2000. The lt1 engines aren't that fast a mustang like yours could beat it. And a ls6 is the same as ls1. Ls3 and ls7 are the badass engines. Y'all will neve be clos to those.

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I'm not hating on mustangs cuz I love them but it's to much money to get into 12s. That's why I'm putting a ls2 in my mustang I'll be running 12s to start off I'ma put alot of work into the engine and hopefully get in the 11s all motor a cobra can't do that an it's supercharged.
You need to get off this site! I can't stand people like you! Don't deface two brands by putting the wrong motor in the wrong car!!! I don't care if I get banned for saying my opinion when it comes to Phuck heads like you!!! You don't deserve the motor or the car!!! You phucking moron!!
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:05 PM   #42
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Wow lol powers power however you make it man. I see tons of people doing that. It's taking the easy way out. I've seen people putting ls1 in their mustangs everyday. It's no big deal. A car is a car. Open your mind to everything. I respect everything fast. You could strap a rocket engine to turd and run 4 secs and I'd respect it but it's still a turd, doesn't mean you have to like it
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I agree with you... But not when swapping two rival's parts.... That's as bad as wearing a tapout shirt and claiming to b a fighter... I hate that just as much
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I agree. Why not just buy a car with the motor in it but oh well
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:20 PM   #45
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If you want to be fast cheap buy a fox body that's been gutted... Drop a 347 stroker or 03 cobra motor hell even a 96-02 cobra motor.... I just don't understand why anyone would deface two brands
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I agree with you... But not when swapping two rival's parts.... That's as bad as wearing a tapout shirt and claiming to b a fighter... I hate that just as much
It's his mustang, his goals. If he wants to bastardize it then let him. People are always going to swap other engines into their car, so why get mad at it? I remember a while back that Hot Rod mag featured a guy who swapped a 2JZ Supra motor into his 69 Camaro. They took a lot of flack for it, however how can you get upset with that when he made mad power and was hot ridding his car the way he wanted to. If this guy upsets you so much then go find a camaro and drop your 3V in it.
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:28 PM   #47
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That's the point it's DEFACING both companies... I would not do that.... I'd drop a 5.0 n a focus... Keep the brands with in brands...
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That's the point it's DEFACING both companies... I would not do that.... I'd drop a 5.0 n a focus... Keep the brands with in brands...
It's not defacing it if it's faster than you in my opinion.
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That does not make any sense... You must not know what deface means...
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It's to lower the value of an object by adding something to said object. In this case its a Chevy engine. He's doing it to make power, that doesn't mean he's defacing it. Not his eyes and not in mine, just yours.
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:55 PM   #51
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Well to a true car enthusiast you would never do such a thing... IMO it's lack of know how...if You don't have enough time/money/knowledge on how to achieve a goal using what that brand has to offer its just plain laziness...
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I couldn't drive a Mustang with a Chevy engine in it. Plus the Fords sound better going down the road.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:03 PM   #53
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Which would be defaced more!.. If I were to drop in a Blown 427 Hemi into a Miata??...

Hahahahahahahahaha.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:10 PM   #54
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Well to a true car enthusiast you would never do such a thing... IMO it's lack of know how...if You don't have enough time/money/knowledge on how to achieve a goal using what that brand has to offer its just plain laziness...
Ah ok I see, so now you're dumb if you wanna be different for putting in a new engine. Ok gotcha
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:22 PM   #55
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Re: ls1

First off i will apologize for this novel, although I promise its worth reading to clear up some confusion.

(this is the friend with the ws6) The ls1 was introduced in 97 with the c5 vette. It was in f-bodies (camaro/firebird) in 98-02. 98-00 were rated 305 hp, slp-ss/ws6 from 98-00 were rated 315. In 2001-02 all ls1 came with the ls6 intake which improved power. Gm still rated base z28/trans am/formulas at 305 and ss/ws6 were rated 325. Many think they were very underrated because many of these cars dyno'd those numbers to the wheels. The fastest stock ls1 car ran a 12.8. Bolt-on/tune cars can get into mid-low 12's easy with good drivers.

The ls1 stock for stock is out of the 2v 4.6's league, 4v cars stock is a drivers race with a slight edge to the f-body, cobra's stock for stock are much faster the ls1 f-bodies but were aiming more so at the ls6 (405hp) z06 vette.

When it comes to modding yes it becomes a money per hp battle and any car can be as fast or faster than any car.

This comes from the driver of an 02 ws6 trans am with 6speed, lt's,ory,cat-back,lid (untuned) with short throw shifter. My fastest run was 13.3 at 111mph. I dont claim to be the best driver in the world my car with good tires and a good driver would probably be able to dip into the 12's with the right conditions.

That being said Ive smoked full bolt-on 2v's by many lengths, (not to mention the guy was a cocky d-bag).

Take my post as you want to, be it me being ls1 nutswinger or someone that knows a little about something, i truthfully dont care. Just thought i'd cover some of the debate in this thread.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:23 PM   #56
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Sry i didnt want this to turn out like this
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It's done all the time, look at most rat rods or model t's or what have u, most have a 350 in it. Why? Cuz it's cheaper to build up the chevy engine than the ford. I dont like it either but to each their own,
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sry i didnt want this to turn out like this
look what you did!!!!


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I do apologize for getting off subject... I just hate people like that...

Ls1/6/7 are amazing motors... GM n general make great motors... They lack in components such as tranny and rear end
TA s and what not are fantastic 1/4 mile cars ... But they lack in cornering (not talking about Vettes... Bastards :-/ )

Mustangs are more less made for road racing , that's where we are top dog
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I do apologize for getting off subject... I just hate people like that...

Ls1/6/7 are amazing motors... GM n general make great motors... They lack in components such as tranny and rear end
TA s and what not are fantastic 1/4 mile cars ... But they lack in cornering (not talking about Vettes... Bastards :-/ )

Mustangs are more less made for road racing , that's where we are top dog
I agree. And I didn't mean to argue with you. It's a bad habit of mine to argue.
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Im with the dude pissed about basterdizations... Not that i really care its ur car if u want to f**k it up fly at er. We see all these 32 ford high boys and hot rods with 350s in them because 350 are every ware and dirt cheep to build up and literolly a half retarded spider monkey can work on them but in the world of hot rods the only ones that catch top prize in looks awe and value are the ones built with matching componants (example 32 ford high boy bored/ stroked 427w vs 350 chevy bored/stroked 383 ford high boy. The ford in ford will allways appeal more then the basteredization hence fetching more $$) like i said its ur ride u wanna mess it up fly at her just dont expect to be offered more then 500$ as a parts car when ur done. And be prepared to put up with alot of smake talk from the die hard fans at the track and worse off ull be getting it from both sides ford ppl asking u wth u were thinking and chevy ppl asking u "what couldnt find a vette or camaro to put that in?"... Not worth it if u ask me.
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Well my friends ws6 came with an ls6 intake.

The cobra has about 390hp while the ws6 has about 350 these #'S are at the crank not wheels a gt vs ws6 is almost no match while the cobra is a better race
Imma guess you mean termi cobras?...if so they dyno around 387ish at the wheels they have 420 at the crank

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Well my friends ws6 came with an ls6 intake.

The cobra has about 390hp while the ws6 has about 350 these #'S are at the crank not wheels a gt vs ws6 is almost no match while the cobra is a better race
Well flywheel,
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Thanks for the back up... And debates are always fun... No hard feelings
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That's the point it's DEFACING both companies... I would not do that.... I'd drop a 5.0 n a focus... Keep the brands with in brands...
I put a turbo cammer (880hp) and allwheel drive in a svt focus in forza 3. Its beyond awsome/fun to drive. Still like my 845hp cobra r more in it though (0-60 in 2.9 sec no tcs abs stm or auto break) and the cobra r ive got going 237mph on old le mans if i had a longer streaght in the game she will go over 240mph. (i know its just a game but its still fun. Lol)
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I'm still tellin you my car can beat ws6 and ls1 cars. And ls2 and ls3 and have done it several times. The gt can be a beast
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I'm still tellin you my car can beat ws6 and ls1 cars. And ls2 and ls3 and have done it several times. The gt can be a beast
Can be? U mean is in its own right!
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No people talk trash about the gt all the time. Idk why
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No people talk trash about the gt all the time. Idk why
Just hatin on ur BA ride we all get it weather were driving a mustang a vette or a viper. Theres allways low iq dip *****s out there that try to make them selves feel big by tryin to bring others down. Its sad but true. I just smile and walk away unless they actually think they can race then i just spank them on the track and giggle at there excuses. And if they can bet me coodos for them there still very sad loanly ppl cause nobody can put up with there "haters" attatude. Remember they only win if u let it bug u if u dont its fun to watch them squrme in there volgarities. Lol!
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Lol no I mean on here. Nobody ever says build your gt it's always buy a cobra or Mach 1.
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I rarely go over 100 on the street. I run through 4th and shut it down. And this is on abandon road so it's not like 100 through town lol I know idiots that do that.
hmmmm wonder who that is?!?!?!?!?
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