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Old 01-30-2012, 07:10 PM   #1
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Long tube headers

I Wanna go with LT headers (02 gt convertible) do I have to change the k member? And if so what else would have to be changed because of the tubular and which is best for everyday street use?
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Stock k is fine. It's just a little cramped in there and say good bye to your starter with those headers on. It is worth it though
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Stock k is fine. It's just a little cramped in there and say good bye to your starter with those headers on. It is worth it though
What will it do to my starter??? I don't understand...
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You won't be able to get to it with the headers on
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You won't be able to get to it with the headers on
Hmmm, should I just replace it before I install to be safe?
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Hmmm, should I just replace it before I install to be safe?
I've been wanting to change my headers too and I was just going to have a shop do it and they said its a must to change the starter or I will be sorry I didn't. I wish I could do all the work my self but I don't have anything to hold the engine while I drop the k-member, so good luck.
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I've been wanting to change my headers too and I was just going to have a shop do it and they said its a must to change the starter or I will be sorry I didn't. I wish I could do all the work my self but I don't have anything to hold the engine while I drop the k-member, so good luck.
Why do you have to drop the k member??? Sorry this is my first time modding a mustang
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That's the only way to really get access in there. It's only four bolts.
As far as holding the engine up it's not recommended but i've used a wooden block on the oil pan with no ill effects
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We lift the engine up about 6-8 inches with a hoist . Gives you just enough with tall jackstands
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That's the only way to really get access in there. It's only four bolts.
As far as holding the engine up it's not recommended but i've used a wooden block on the oil pan with no ill effects
I've heard of the wooden block way and I'm not too comfortable knowing my head is under a car and a 4X4 block is keeping me from getting squashed. I'd rather have a hoist.
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Re: Long tube headers

I did this back in the summer. Put the car up on tall jack stands, drop the k member, and use a jack with a 2X4 under the oil pan. Worked great and made the install much easier. Its well worth it!! You will love the long tubes
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We used a chain hoist on one from the cieling and on the car hoist easyest way but i know i know not everyone has that stuff so so long as u have enough friends helping a jack and a couple tall (really good) jack stands and u should be ok id run a chain from a main support in the garage though just in case it slips only has to happen once and thatll be a very bad day for who ever is under there (a chain and winch is what im talking about jack it up first and wench up the chain taut to it so it cant slip)
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Re: Long tube headers

Hi folks,

Las here. I have a set of shorties to install myself, but I don't have anyone to help me, besides it will take hours for a beginner like myself (sorta). Anyways, dropping the K-member allows for lowering of the engine a few short, very short inches to allow room (hands and fingers only) to remove the old (easy), and install the after market headers (hard). After market headers are tough because of the way the tubes are shaped (shorties restrict installation), Long tubes are considered easier (by hours; no curling tubes) due to tubes flowing striaight down (true). Disadvantages, reduced access to at least 2 major, wearable, components: Starter and clutch for a 5 to 10 extra HP due to increased flow that can be made up else where. Advantages, extra 5-10 HP due to flow, and maybe better exhaust/muffler tune also due to flow.

From my perspective the long tube header originated in the race circuit and was applied stock street cars to improve sale. I view it like the muffler specs are to decibel level restrictions you can find a myriad of specs, where ever iota of HP absolutely counts. Anyways, that's just my perspective. Come back.

Oh yeah, don't forget to leave the cross-member attached. If you don't, kiss your a** goodbye along with your engine sitting on you. There is only one brace point, the harmonic balancer. This endeavour is absolutely not for a beginner, find a pro. it's worth the money.

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