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Old 02-22-2012, 01:43 PM   #36
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Thanks!! I've been wanting this for a while.

So back to my other questions, do these numbers look right:
-$500ish for the edelbrock intake/fuel rails/elbow(or plate)
-$580ish for Stage II cams
-$200 for beehive springs(or whatever it is to accomodate for higher lift of stage II cam)
-$60 for new steel retainers
=Roughly $1340 in parts
Then you add in labor, which I'm going to assume the shop can install the intake+cams all in one go since intake has to come off anyway, so a one-time charge? Roughly $1klabor+tune? Sound good?

So about $$2400 parts+labor+tune? This sound anywhere close?
Your probably pretty close there. But why not do the work yourself? The installs really arent that bad. The hardest part is degreeing your cam and if you get them from MHS (which i FULLY recommend) Nick will degree them for you if you would like. Other than that, its a fairly easy install that any half decent wrench turner could have done in a weekend
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I have a local shop that does everything woth a vortec for 4k
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Your probably pretty close there. But why not do the work yourself? The installs really arent that bad. The hardest part is degreeing your cam and if you get them from MHS (which i FULLY recommend) Nick will degree them for you if you would like. Other than that, its a fairly easy install that any half decent wrench turner could have done in a weekend
I was under the impression it would be a difficult install..? And idk how to degree them. Researched it a lot and it seems hit or miss. What is MHS?
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Just talked with the wife...she said as long as I buy her the car she wants I can mod the f'in mustang
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I don't get it. Cobras are normally maxing at 285 with super charger before it reaches close to max. Regular GT w/out boost are doing 185 which is great. I see you doing 250 at most with valve upgrades and some advanced tuning. Don't get your hopes up too far, be realistic, but then if it works I want to be the first to know.

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Sounds like the "rock and a hard place" thing. Good luck.
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Just talked with the wife...she said as long as I buy her the car she wants I can mod the f'in mustang
Haha, hell yeah.

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I don't get it. Cobras are normally maxing at 285 with super charger before it reaches close to max. Regular GT w/out boost are doing 185 which is great. I see you doing 250 at most with valve upgrades and some advanced tuning. Don't get your hopes up too far, be realistic, but then if it works I want to be the first to know.

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Sounds like the "rock and a hard place" thing. Good luck.
What are you talking about ?
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Yeah mustang gt is 215 stock and cobra is 305... thats for 96's.

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With a s/c your pushin 450 rwhp
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Yeah mustang gt is 215 stock and cobra is 305... thats for 96's.

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With a s/c your pushin 450 rwhp
And that's why they lovely trick flow people made such amazing heads for our stangs
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And that's why they lovely trick flow people made such amazing heads for our stangs
X1000

With TFS heads a stock gt is looking at 335-370rwhp
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X1000

With TFS heads a stock gt is looking at 335-370rwhp
Haha, yup, I can't wait till i can get the money to put some on my stang. Then I can be happy for a couple years
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This is my dilemma....$8300....do I buy the wife a new car since I just sold hers??? Or mod the mustang??
Do a coyote swap!
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Well my 96 gt hasnt been dino'd but jt can put the horses to the ground and it doesnt have many modds
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Do a coyote swap!
Yeah for 15-22k.....
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Yeah for 15-22k.....
I can just imagine what I could do with my stang for that money.
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I can just imagine what I could do with my stang for that money.
Lololol no kidding!
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I don't get it. Cobras are normally maxing at 285 with super charger before it reaches close to max. Regular GT w/out boost are doing 185 which is great. I see you doing 250 at most with valve upgrades and some advanced tuning. Don't get your hopes up too far, be realistic, but then if it works I want to be the first to know.

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Sounds like the "rock and a hard place" thing. Good luck.
Um.. I have a 2002 GT. stock is 260hp which is roughly 225-230rwhp. My estimation of 320rwhp is not far off at all. I will be close to those numbers
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I was under the impression it would be a difficult install..? And idk how to degree them. Researched it a lot and it seems hit or miss. What is MHS?
I guess i should say it isnt hard if you have some mechanical background and a good shop manual. MHS is Modular Head Shop, they are the best in the business when it comes to heads and cams for mustangs. Nick is the guy to talk to. He will degree your cams for you if you buy them from him. Look him up, and give him a call. I promise you wont be disappointed, the man is a genius
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I guess i should say it isnt hard if you have some mechanical background and a good shop manual. MHS is Modular Head Shop, they are the best in the business when it comes to heads and cams for mustangs. Nick is the guy to talk to. He will degree your cams for you if you buy them from him. Look him up, and give him a call. I promise you wont be disappointed, the man is a genius
Sounds pretty great. Are their prices competitive?
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Yeah he is pretty decent for his quality of work. I will be using him when I do my motor build in the future This is one thing you get what you pay for.
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Yeah he is pretty decent for his quality of work. I will be using him when I do my motor build in the future This is one thing you get what you pay for.
So what rough prices are we looking at?
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So what rough prices are we looking at?
I'd say 500-575 for cams. Plus a little more for him to degree them. But check out his site www.modularheadshop.com. He has a ton of options and routes you can do
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I'll probably be contacting him soon! That was the price I was looking at spending anyway.
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Glad to hear it! Please keep us posted!
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Glad to hear it! Please keep us posted!
Btw, how hard is keeping everything straight during the tear down? Like vacuum lines and everything.
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I'd say 500-575 for cams. Plus a little more for him to degree them. But check out his site www.modularheadshop.com. He has a ton of options and routes you can do
Some people sell used cams for around 200-300 on craigslsit but i wouldnt buy anything but excellent condition. Labor for cams is terrible unless u can do it yourself
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Btw, how hard is keeping everything straight during the tear down? Like vacuum lines and everything.
Get some tape and a sharpie, as you pull them off mark them. Also take lots and lots of pictures. Should be easy if you do it right.
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Get some tape and a sharpie, as you pull them off mark them. Also take lots and lots of pictures. Should be easy if you do it right.
That's the method I was thinking. I think it's doable. Just gonna be really nervous.
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That's the method I was thinking. I think it's doable. Just gonna be really nervous.
Yep, I know what you mean.
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Cams at MHS are like 599 and include degreeing
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Get some tape and a sharpie, as you pull them off mark them. Also take lots and lots of pictures. Should be easy if you do it right.
+11. Was gonna say the same thing but ya beat me it!.. Lol

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That's the method I was thinking. I think it's doable. Just gonna be really nervous.
I'm the same way when I start some thing new that I've never done before!.. Just double check your stuff when you put it all back together and you'll be fine!..
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+11. Was gonna say the same thing but ya beat me it!.. Lol

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I'm the same way when I start some thing new that I've never done before!.. Just double check your stuff when you put it all back together and you'll be fine!..
Well I've rebuilt an auto tranny before after not knowing how to... How hard could this be?
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Well I've rebuilt an auto tranny before after not knowing how to... How hard could this be?
If your crazy enough to dig into a tranny and not F*** it up!.. Then you should be able to do this no sweat!... Lol
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If your crazy enough to dig into a tranny and not F*** it up!.. Then you should be able to do this no sweat!... Lol
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If your crazy enough to dig into a tranny and not F*** it up!.. Then you should be able to do this no sweat!... Lol
Well that makes me feel a lot better about things! I was under the impression this install was killer.

One more thing. How does MHS degree the cam? I though the cam had to be in a head to degree it?
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Btw, how hard is keeping everything straight during the tear down? Like vacuum lines and everything.
Like everyone said. Tape and sharpies man. That's the best way. And take TONS OF PICS IN ORDER so that you can just go backwards and have a step by step process to work though.
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