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Old 03-26-2012, 11:39 PM   #1
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Need some possitive influence..

Need to hear some good things about my 99 Gt..just saw some youtube vids and pics of the new civics making like 200 hp stock..really sucks hearing that a 4 cylinder is making almost what I make with my V8. Kind of depressing actually
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Yea I agree I don't understand why the 4.6 puts out such low horsepower for a v8
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:29 AM   #3
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Yea I agree I don't understand why the 4.6 puts out such low horsepower for a v8
I think they could have done WAY more with it if they wanted too, 230 to the wheels is sad for the name that the "Mustang Gt" has..i love my car but the fact that a 4 cylinder just needs a CAI and a tune to whip my *** sucks...
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Re: Need some possitive influence..

Okay.. well think about it like this.. what can a 99 civic do against your stang? Now think about what the new civic could do against the new 5.0 or boss?? Is that better? If not, think about the fact that if someone dropped $4K into a new civic, versus you dropping $4k into your stang, you would would blow the doors off of the new civic because parts are so much cheaper for our stangs versus brand new JUST developed items on a brand new civic that has a lot more tech to deal with in it. Just sayin, comparing your awesome stang to new rice is apples to oranges.
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Okay.. well think about it like this.. what can a 99 civic do against your stang? Now think about what the new civic could do against the new 5.0 or boss?? Is that better? If not, think about the fact that if someone dropped $4K into a new civic, versus you dropping $4k into your stang, you would would blow the doors off of the new civic because parts are so much cheaper for our stangs versus brand new JUST developed items on a brand new civic that has a lot more tech to deal with in it. Just sayin, comparing your awesome stang to new rice is apples to oranges.
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Why are you worried?... The civic weighs about as much as our Stangs and only has 200hp!.. That's 200hp at the crank and only about 170 lbs of torque!... Stock our cars have about 265hp and 305lbs of torque!.. And our cars are older!!!... And we will still stomp the S*** out of those POS civics!!... Lol. And that's stock for stock!.. Mod for mod, well our cars respond better to any mods!.. Not to mention that our cars have much nore potential!... Now what depressing to me is that the new V6 Mustangs putting out 305hp!.. But then again we still do have those beat in the torque department!..
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I wouldn't worry too much, the 2011 civic Si with its Vtec and 200hp will only do 0-60 in 7 seconds flat. It will take a bit more than a tune and intake to get down to 5.4.
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I wouldn't worry too much, the 2011 civic Si with its Vtec and 200hp will only do 0-60 in 7 seconds flat. It will take a bit more than a tune and intake to get down to 5.4.
Wouldn't worry too much?!?.... I wouldn't worry at all!!... I never heard of a green of rice out run a horse!.. Lol.
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Agreed... It's still a CIVIC with no torque. Hp isn't the only factor in speed power or awesomeness. They're front wheel drive too. All that weight shifts back onto the rear wheels during a hard launch and they get even less traction.

To top it off, your car sounds like masculine badassness and theirs sound like fat bastard relieving his bowels.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:19 AM   #10
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Even though our 99-04 16v Mustangs are lower in hp than most V8, they defiantly don't act like what they show on paper. Go back to the late 60's when Chevy challenged the 289 stang against the 327 new camaro. On paper the camaro looked like for sure would out perform the mustang. The mustang won and Chevy couldn't understand why. Ford has always done better than anyone in there gearing. That makes the difference. So don't be discouraged our cars still perform great with modern cars.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:22 AM   #11
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Just got into this very same debate yesterday with my neighbor who's the big time Ricer.

I'm a traditional American muscle car guy.

This was the point I was trying to get across although I wasn't doing a very good job.

I'll send him a link to this thread thanks op and all the replies.
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Carroll Shelby "Horse power sells cars!.. Torque wins races!.." Ricer Fanboys will never understand that statement because their cars lack balls!!...
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Re: Need some possitive influence..

as years pass the bar goes higher so older cars dont compare as easily to newer one. The 200hp is probably at a very high rpm and the TQ is very low... so if you drove it it would not feel like your car with the same hp. Its not just about peak but the curve as well.
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as years pass the bar goes higher so older cars dont compare as easily to newer one. The 200hp is probably at a very high rpm and the TQ is very low... so if you drove it it would not feel like your car with the same hp. Its not just about peak but the curve as well.
Exactly. A flat torque line is something that ricers just can not compete with.. Hah
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No matter what a Honda will never look as good as any mustang!
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The reason ricers only know about hp and not torque is because their cars do not have torque and would not be a relevant conversation to them hahaha

It would be like them talking to you about a vtec. You know nothing about them not do you care because you car doesn't have one
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The reason ricers only know about hp and not torque is because their cars do not have torque and would not be a relevant conversation to them hahaha

It would be like them talking to you about a vtec. You know nothing about them not do you care because you car doesn't have one
My Stang a Vtec!!... And a quad turbocharged afterburner sticking out it's A$$!!.... Hahahahahahahaha.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:52 AM   #18
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Re: Need some possitive influence..

You also have to remember that our cars design is over 10 years old!! Compare a 2000 model civic with a 2000 model GT. Then compare a 2012 model civic with a 2012 model GT. Comparing old to new just isnt a fair comparison (even if we still win on the track)
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Why are you worried?... The civic weighs about as much as our Stangs and only has 200hp!.. That's 200hp at the crank and only about 170 lbs of torque!... Stock our cars have about 265hp and 305lbs of torque!.. And our cars are older!!!... And we will still stomp the S*** out of those POS civics!!... Lol. And that's stock for stock!.. Mod for mod, well our cars respond better to any mods!.. Not to mention that our cars have much nore potential!... Now what depressing to me is that the new V6 Mustangs putting out 305hp!.. But then again we still do have those beat in the torque department!..
Lol yeah i havent gotten to race a new sixer yet, im not sure what the result would be either lol

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My Stang a Vtec!!... And a quad turbocharged afterburner sticking out it's A$$!!.... Hahahahahahahaha.
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My Stang a Vtec!!... And a quad turbocharged afterburner sticking out it's A$$!!.... Hahahahahahahaha.
A very tall engine cooler?
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A very tall engine cooler?
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Re: Need some possitive influence..

its crazy how my 2012 has 305hp etc and how much different it is in comparison to my 03 or even my friends 08 that we used to take to work (car pool) every other week.
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A very tall engine cooler?
Also with a nitro fed V13!!... Hahahahahahaha.
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Also with a nitro fed V13!!... Hahahahahahaha.
And the boost powered stereo to help it go boom boom
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And the boost powered stereo to help it go boom boom
Ya I've 25 mega super amps!... And 10 20inch subs!.. Lol
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Ya I've 25 mega super amps!... And 10 20inch subs!.. Lol
And the gold plated steering shaft for the bling bling factor to help win shows!!!

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its crazy how my 2012 has 305hp etc and how much different it is in comparison to my 03 or even my friends 08 that we used to take to work (car pool) every other week.
It pulls harder than the 99-04 Gt's?
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It pulls harder than the 99-04 Gt's?
A new style v6 can almost keep up with my geared and tuned '02 GT.. I leave him in second gear but he catches up in fifth. Lol.
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A new style v6 can almost keep up with my geared and tuned '02 GT.. I leave him in second gear but he catches up in fifth. Lol.
I wonder how it would be stock vs stock
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And the gold plated steering shaft for the bling bling factor to help win shows!!!

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Only but the best Bling Bling for me!... He'll I'm ridin on 40s!!..... Hahahahahaha
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I wonder how it would be stock vs stock
Stock for stock the new style v6 can most likely take the win versus the 99-04 4.6 GT.
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Stock for stock the new style v6 can most likely take the win versus the 99-04 4.6 GT.
It would be close but I think the GT will nose it out for the win!.. One thing you have to remember is that the new V6 Mustang is a tad heavier and it doesn't have the torque that our cars have!..
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Maybe. All I know is that my buddy with the v6 had his car screaming so good with Rousch axle-back. And it was a quick car.
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The 4.6 pi motor does have low horsepower but compared to other cars with less or more horses it holds its own, these cars are designed to run, the suspension and gearing is key in these cars to get the power to the ground, a car can have 400 horse but if u cant get power to the ground its pointless, thats why these stangs run so well, thats why they hang so well with camaros, and smoke civics because they are designed to put power to the ground. My gt smokes my buddies gto all day long and he is running way more horses than me. What horsepower looks like on paper has no meaning to what it looks like on the strip
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The 4.6 pi motor does have low horsepower but compared to other cars with less or more horses it holds its own, these cars are designed to run, the suspension and gearing is key in these cars to get the power to the ground, a car can have 400 horse but if u cant get power to the ground its pointless, thats why these stangs run so well, thats why they hang so well with camaros, and smoke civics because they are designed to put power to the ground. My gt smokes my buddies gto all day long and he is running way more horses than me. What horsepower looks like on paper has no meaning to what it looks like on the strip
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