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Old 04-25-2012, 09:41 PM   #36
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They have programmer and 4.10s for $550
Programmer and 3.73s for $530 as a package

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Also look on Craigslist I just found some 4.10s ford racing for $75 it would be a cheaper route
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Is it possible to get bad gears?

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Like used ones
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I have 4.10s , wish I'd never put them in. Could care less about mpg, It's the driveabilty I don't like.
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It Is but if the teeth are grinder off or any cracks then there bad pretty much simple as that I would check them real good look at all teeth and for any hair line cracks
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Is it possible to get bad gears?

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Yes it is,if they weren't installed correctly the first time. Ther could b a wear pattern on them that will whine no matter how good the install.
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I have 4.10s , wish I'd never put them in. Could care less about mpg, It's the driveabilty I don't like.
Please elaborate on the drivability issues. What were the problems?
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Yes where r the issues Ur scaring me bro haha I'm very new to this an don't like to hear that
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Please elaborate on the drivability issues. What were the problems?
Jerky, shift twice in a city block, ol lady can't drive it at all now. I almost have tears when she does. Just a lot of extra wear an tear. 3.55s were to low, 4.10s I think are to high. Just my opinion,everyone has one.
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Jerky, shift twice in a city block, ol lady can't drive it at all now. I almost have tears when she does. Just a lot of extra wear an tear. 3.55s were to low, 4.10s I think are to high. Just my opinion,everyone has one.
Yes you will shift a lot in the city...you can really even take off in second with 4.10'a
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Yes you will shift a lot in the city...you can really even take off in second with 4.10'a
U can, but your gonna b putting a clutch in a lot sooner than normal.
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Yea a friend was tellin me about takin off in 2nd when you have more power
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There is almost no point for a 1st in 4.10s and like he said throttle is so touchy which causes it to jerk but if you don't use 1st gear you will need a clutch every few months it just all depends on what your going to do and use your car for
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Re: gears

My 2002 GT has the original clutch and just clocked over 120k miles. Been running 20k miles with 4.10 gears. I don't see what you mean by shaky or jerky? My car drives smooth as butter. But you're right about letting anyone else drive it... My mom tried to drive it and I was cringing the whole time because she was making it hop like it was on comp bounce bags. :/

My car has become much easier to drive, however, since I have installed the gear. City driving is fun. :] I love going through the gears though so maybe that's why I'm so pleased... I shift into second at like 10-15mph. Haha I'm in fourth by 35mph, and fifth by 45, honestly.
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My 2002 GT has the original clutch and just clocked over 120k miles. Been running 20k miles with 4.10 gears. I don't see what you mean by shaky or jerky? My car drives smooth as butter. But you're right about letting anyone else drive it... My mom tried to drive it and I was cringing the whole time because she was making it hop like it was on comp bounce bags. :/

My car has become much easier to drive, however, since I have installed the gear. City driving is fun. :] I love going through the gears though so maybe that's why I'm so pleased... I shift into second at like 10-15mph. Haha I'm in fourth by 35mph, and fifth by 45, honestly.
You run mostly around baton rouge?
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You run mostly around baton rouge?
I run around Baton Rouge, about 20miles/day. Then every weekend I drive to Covington which is 70miles, then drive about 40miles around covington/mandeville, and back to Baton Rouge which is 70miles.

So I put a lot of miles on my car and it goes through many heating cycles everyday. It gets a ton of use.

By the way OP; if you live around Baton Rouge then you're more than welcome to drive my car to see how you'd like 4.10s. I still have no clue what people mean by the gas pedal being jerky... If you drive smooth it's always smooth. That's with any car/motor/clutch/gear setup. Excep stage3+ clutches.. They tend to be a little jerky just because of how stiff they are. Also you should definitely read the thread in my signature. it gives a lot of good information about 4.10s and experiences with them as well as a video of a corrected speedo running down the HWY at different speeds to show RPM.
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I live in Hammond between baton rouge and Covington I bet they would be fun around the city.
How much rpm your turning at 80-90mph?
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OP you need to take Cole up on his offer and decide for your self . I'm not really good with words so I really can't explain it. Hell I can't even spell.
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I live in Hammond between baton rouge and Covington I bet they would be fun around the city.
How much rpm your turning at 80-90mph?
I go through Hammond a lot; I have friends at SLU.

At 80 I think I'm right at 2.6k and at 90 I'm at roughly 2.8-2.9k.

I'll have to double-check that soon. It's pretty close to that though.

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You're doin' fine. Haha
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So just curious how do the 4.10s work with a supercharger?? Like I said I am gettin a new edge gt soon so right now dnt know anything. But I do know I love mustang evolution its like a class haha
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I thought it was way higher than that, that's not bad at all I'm turning 2,000 at 80 3,000 at a 100.
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So just curious how do the 4.10s work with a supercharger?? Like I said I am gettin a new edge gt soon so right now dnt know anything. But I do know I love mustang evolution its like a class haha
4.10s with a supercharger will be pretty crazy through the lower gears but new edges are notorious for just hitting a wall through fourth gear where acceleration is lacking... Despite supercharging; compared to other cars with similar horsepower/torque like ls3 Corvettes in the early 2000s. They put about 375-385hp/400tq at the wheels NA stock. After supercharging the 4.6 281 mod motor puts out about those same numbers because you want a conservative tune because our engines have cast rods so can't handle a ton of power. The Corvettes will more than likely still out-run our s/ced cars because they are geared(tranny wise) and made to have higher-speed accel. Our new edges simply are not. Our cars are made to go from 0-60 pretty quickly and sound great while doing it. I digress..

4.10s with a supercharger will be a handful and I honestly wouldn't recommend it if you DD it unless you don't mind it. You'd get a better performing car with 3.55s or 3.73s like stock gears in Cobras.

I do know that I want to supercharge my GT in the future and I will be keeping the 4.10s because I'm hella excited about the combination. I'm going to absolutely love it.


You won't get a huge top-end, though. While in stock form 4.10s will most definitely increase your top end(Mine went from 3.27 gears topping out at roughly 125 to 4.10s topping out at 147 believe it or not). But with a higher powered engine you won't need to have the gear to hit the power band in top gears so using a less steep gear will allow you to have a higher speed because you will run out of gear far before power by using 4.10s. But my deal isn't going really fast... It's how fast you get going fast. So my GT being s/ced with 4.10s will be perfect for me. I rarely go over 100 anyway.

If you don't understand what I'm saying then I blame my delirium. I need to sleep more.. Ask questions and I'll try to explain it better. I feel like I'm rambling and have a ton of run-on sentences. Haha


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I thought it was way higher than that, that's not bad at all I'm turning 2,000 at 80 3,000 at a 100.
At 100 I'm turning 3.1-3.2k.. So apparently the RPM difference at higher speeds doesn't stay so large? I turn 2-2.1k@70 and 2.3k@75.
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That's crazy how is it that your turning the same as me doing a 100? When I have stock 3.27?
0-60 I can go threw 1st and 2nd end of 2nd I'm at 70.
What are you doing 0-60?
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That's crazy how is it that your turning the same as me doing a 100? When I have stock 3.27?
0-60 I can go threw 1st and 2nd end of 2nd I'm at 70.
What are you doing 0-60?
0-60 I'm in Third gear. I come out of second at top RPM and I'm going 50mph. Haha. I can hit about 75 in Third, and Fourth I can ride out to about 110.
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Do you find 4.10s make more wheel spin?
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Do you find 4.10s make more wheel spin?
When I was riding on my 295/30/18 BFGoodrich Geforces(which are pretty great tires) I could spin all the way through first and second and spin a little in third if I dropped it hard enough. However now I run 305/40/18 Nitto 555R Drag Radials and I spin a bit in first if I don't launch nicely but in second I chirp and I'm gone. I'll be installing new upper and lower control arms and that should really help me plant the rear end better.

Also if I heat the 555rs up well then I don't really spin unless I dump the clutch.

If you're on a stock size tire or regular type of tire then yes... 4.10s will make you spin like crazy. Which makes it really fun to drive.

Have you ever spun out and left black marks in a arch when making a u-turn? It looks beautiful. Hahahaha
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Alright man thanks for the info just wanted a few answers I was thinking about answered
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If you have any more questions then be sure to ask.
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How do the 555rs do on wet roads? I really like the looks of them.
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How do the 555rs do on wet roads? I really like the looks of them.
I don't mean to jack the thread, OP, just answering questions.

My 555rs are a relatively new addition to my car. Had them for a couple weeks at best. After installing them I actually had to drive through heavy rain for a half hour on the interstate. I started off slow going about 60 because I heard horror stories about drag radials having no wet traction. However I quickly got up to speed and was doing 75 and felt extremely planted and secure. Didn't have any hydroplaning even when hitting deeper puddles of standing water.

I was fairly impressed. I'll have to drive it more in the rain at city speeds to give you a full review.

But you're right; the tires look AMAZING. And their dry-weather performance is great.
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OP you need to take Cole up on his offer and decide for your self . I'm not really good with words so I really can't explain it. Hell I can't even spell.
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How do the 555rs do on wet roads? I really like the looks of them.
Mine do great in the rain, just have to remember its raining and you have DR's on...
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Mine do great in the rain, just have to remember its raining and you have DR's on...
Thanks, that's kinda what I thought. I believe that's probably what my next set will b . Do they still ride good ?
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Thanks, that's kinda what I thought. I believe that's probably what my next set will b . Do they still ride good ?
Yeah man...sometimes when they are cold and the ground is cold they feel unbalanced but when they warm up they are fine..
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So saying 4.10s burn more fuel than 3.73s is false info? Everything I said was the truth they do burn more fuel I'm sure it's not much because the gears are almost the same only a couple rpm separate them. I didn't say they burn any amount of number more so I'm not sure where your reading that from.

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More RPMs = Less MPG. It really is just that simple.

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Yes you too are right...but like me and him settled yesterday. The mpg between 3.83 and 4.10 is minimal. You should not be worried about that if you are upgrading gears at all because you will loose more mpg between stock an the upgraded gears than between the two. If u want gas mileage buy a Prius or drop some 2.73 in your rear..
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Yes you too are right...but like me and him settled yesterday. The mpg between 3.83 and 4.10 is minimal. You should not be worried about that if you are upgrading gears at all because you will loose more mpg between stock an the upgraded gears than between the two. If u want gas mileage buy a Prius or drop some 2.73 in your rear..
No, I'm cool w/the MPGs, I was just stating the facts. And also, dropped a steamy on myself cause I didn't catch up on the posts before throwing in my 2 cents. My bad

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