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05-01-2012, 11:01 AM
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#36 | | Registered User
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| Re: Aurora's heart died.
You can get a ton of different options, but all come with forged rods and pistons. From there it all depends on what you want/need. Your best bet would be to go to their website and look around.
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05-01-2012, 11:01 AM
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#37 | | The Blue Dragon
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| Re: Aurora's heart died.
a short block is a very basic build coming with mostly just the block and rotating assembly. so a forged short block would have a forged rotating assembly. someone else add in whatever I'm missing but that's the gist of it.
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05-01-2012, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CodyNelson You can get a ton of different options, but all come with forged rods and pistons. From there it all depends on what you want/need. Your best bet would be to go to their website and look around. | I can't get on the site right now but the shortblock is the block, forged crank, forged rods, and forged pistons? How much would it be to throw in a set of heads? Maybe $2300?
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05-01-2012, 11:06 AM
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Prob around 3500. I was just on there site like 2 days ago cheapest I seen was like 2300 for short block think they had a long block starting at around 3500
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05-01-2012, 11:28 AM
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| Re: Aurora's heart died.
Their cheaper options require you to send in your block and crank. But 2300 will get you a new block, cranks, pistons, rods, and everything assembled. Then I would go to modularheadshop.com and look around on there. Nick has several things marked down and at amazing prices. I dont see why you couldnt have the shortblock, heads, cams, springs and everything at your door for more than 4000
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05-01-2012, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CodyNelson Their cheaper options require you to send in your block and crank. But 2300 will get you a new block, cranks, pistons, rods, and everything assembled. Then I would go to modularheadshop.com and look around on there. Nick has several things marked down and at amazing prices. I dont see why you couldnt have the shortblock, heads, cams, springs and everything at your door for more than 4000 | I don't know if I could swing 4000.. I was reading on mmr that they still use cast cranks. Eh.
Nick's heads run about $1700-2200 for stage II cams, springs, and port. That's not terrible I guess. Haha.
If I didn't have to pay rent and all my bills then I could afford it all! Haha. I could probably spread this build over two months.. Buy the engine this month and heads next month.. Then put it all back together. Eh.. This sucks.
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05-01-2012, 12:24 PM
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Cole have you tried that big junk yard off I-12 going to baton rouge it's around Albany/Springfield area?
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05-01-2012, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan7racin Cole have you tried that big junk yard off I-12 going to baton rouge it's around Albany/Springfield area? | Not yet. Just found out my engine was fried last night. Haha
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05-01-2012, 12:46 PM
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| Re: Aurora's heart died.
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Originally Posted by ColeJohnson  I don't know if I could swing 4000.. I was reading on mmr that they still use cast cranks. Eh.
Nick's heads run about $1700-2200 for stage II cams, springs, and port. That's not terrible I guess. Haha.
If I didn't have to pay rent and all my bills then I could afford it all! Haha. I could probably spread this build over two months.. Buy the engine this month and heads next month.. Then put it all back together. Eh.. This sucks. | Stock crank is good for up to 650 hp. If you go with the 500 package the stock crank will still be one of the strongest pieces in it
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05-01-2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CodyNelson
Stock crank is good for up to 650 hp. If you go with the 500 package the stock crank will still be one of the strongest pieces in it
| I'm going to have to look into this then. $2k for a forged shortblock isn't terrible. I see where if you send your block in you can pay $300 and it gives you a 18month warranty and it covers shipping to mmr and back to you! So that means $1600+$300. So $1900 total with that warranty? Not bad at all. Then save up for the heads.. And I'll be all set!
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05-01-2012, 02:18 PM
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#46 | | Registered User
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| Re: Aurora's heart died.
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Originally Posted by ColeJohnson I'm going to have to look into this then. $2k for a forged shortblock isn't terrible. I see where if you send your block in you can pay $300 and it gives you a 18month warranty and it covers shipping to mmr and back to you! So that means $1600+$300. So $1900 total with that warranty? Not bad at all. Then save up for the heads.. And I'll be all set! | Your inbox is full fyi. Questions.. Nicks heads you have a link for this? And where are you finding the prices for a forged short block?
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05-01-2012, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeJohnson
I'm going to have to look into this then. $2k for a forged shortblock isn't terrible. I see where if you send your block in you can pay $300 and it gives you a 18month warranty and it covers shipping to mmr and back to you! So that means $1600+$300. So $1900 total with that warranty? Not bad at all. Then save up for the heads.. And I'll be all set!
| That is a good deal. Don't remember but did it wreck the heads to. That was prob a dumb question.
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05-01-2012, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajunick
Your inbox is full fyi. Questions.. Nicks heads you have a link for this? And where are you finding the prices for a forged short block?
| I emptied my inbox.
Forged shortblock prices are on MMR.com.
Read up a few posts to Cody Nelson's post. Modularheadshop.com.
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05-01-2012, 04:31 PM
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#49 | | Registered User
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| Re: Aurora's heart died.
I'm sorry to hear about your loss bro..I went through the same thing a few months ago.
I rebuilt mine for just over $3k. I replaced EVERYTHING! rods, pistons, all bearings, basically the entire bottom end. I had the heads rebuilt too. You could just rebuild it, learn a few things in the process, and have a brand new engine for just $3k. It would be better than spending $2500 on a used junk yard engine and not knowing anything about it. I would rebuild it and maybe gets cams, ported heads, and forge it if you have the extra money. I hope this helps man, if you have any questions about anything on my engine, I'll be glad to help.
Here are some pics of my build.
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05-02-2012, 07:26 AM
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Little update. Have to go back to work in a different city so I'm done messin with it for now. Next on list is take off the heads and inspect where the damage is. If its the heads then I'm just gonna rebuild them and go forged internals and steel valves.
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05-02-2012, 07:58 AM
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If u were closer I'd hook you up with the block
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05-02-2012, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 02PONY If u were closer I'd hook you up with the block | Where are you located?
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05-02-2012, 09:02 AM
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Where are you located?
| He in Indiana...but where I don't know..
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05-02-2012, 09:13 AM
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Rough. I guess ill just keep my search going.
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05-02-2012, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rm360 Sorry to hear about you're baby that sucks, you can also try emmet head performance they are a site sponsor , there in Georgia , and they may give you a deal for being on the forum | Word of advice try to stay away from emmets I know way to many people that have screwed over
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05-02-2012, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ware12
Word of advice try to stay away from emmets I know way to many people that have screwed over
| Thanks for the advice. I'm already set on giving my patronage to Nick from Modularheadshop.com if I need to purchase heads.
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05-02-2012, 09:36 AM
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I'm in Indiana in between Indy and Chicago I'll be going down to Angola LA first week of June if you haven't got it fixed by then I'll see if can use my brother laws truck and I'll bring it with me
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05-02-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 02PONY I'm in Indiana in between Indy and Chicago I'll be going down to Angola LA first week of June if you haven't got it fixed by then I'll see if can use my brother laws truck and I'll bring it with me | Is it just a straight block? No crank/rods/pistons?
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05-02-2012, 09:56 AM
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#59 | | Registered User
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No complete block
Sent u pm on info
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Any damage to your block?
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Good god just seen your second post. U spraying or did u over rev
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05-02-2012, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ware12
Word of advice try to stay away from emmets I know way to many people that have screwed over
| Thanks for the tip ! I've only used them looking for used parts, I've never had any work done by them.
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05-02-2012, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rm360
Thanks for the tip ! I've only used them looking for used parts, I've never had any work done by them.
| No problem. I live here in Warner robins and just know how they have done friends of mine
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05-02-2012, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 02PONY No complete block
Sent u pm on info
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Any damage to your block?
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Good god just seen your second post. U spraying or did u over rev | My car was a bit lean and was over revved for a few seconds and it didn't end well. That's all. Haha.
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05-03-2012, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ColeJohnson
My car was a bit lean and was over revved for a few seconds and it didn't end well. That's all. Haha.
| Who wrote your tune bud, I don't wanna be in the same boat.
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05-03-2012, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tc x 4
Who wrote your tune bud, I don't wanna be in the same boat.
| Bama did. It wasn't their total fault though because I knew it was a bit lean but ran it anyway. Mostly my fault, I'd say.
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05-03-2012, 02:01 PM
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This is obviously biased, but why not go with a 97-98 Mark VIII motor? Its 4v, Romeo, COP, runs on the factory tune(you have to tune it to make good power..), and all you really need to do is delete EGR, knock sensors, and jimmy around with the heater hoses i'm pretty sure. A lot of Marks blow their trannys so you should be able to find a dead one with a good motor cheap. That way you have all your accesory parts ready should you hit a snag.
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05-03-2012, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentOrange This is obviously biased, but why not go with a 97-98 Mark VIII motor? Its 4v, Romeo, COP, runs on the factory tune(you have to tune it to make good power..), and all you really need to do is delete EGR, knock sensors, and jimmy around with the heater hoses i'm pretty sure. A lot of Marks blow their trannys so you should be able to find a dead one with a good motor cheap. That way you have all your accesory parts ready should you hit a snag. | Uses the factory 4.6 wiring harness?
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05-03-2012, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeJohnson
Uses the factory 4.6 wiring harness?
| Yeah, everything bolts right up. Its basically a Cobra motor. Like I said you have to delete some stuff, but its a relatively easy swap.. I have done my research on them. You can plug and bolt everything up, and they fire up on the stock GT tune even.
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05-03-2012, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentOrange
Yeah, everything bolts right up. Its basically a Cobra motor. Like I said you have to delete some stuff, but its a relatively easy swap.. I have done my research on them. You can plug and bolt everything up, and they fire up on the stock GT tune even.
| Same size even? Don't need a new tranny or driveshaft?
Sorry for being overly inquisitive. Just weighing my options heavily.
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05-03-2012, 09:40 PM
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#69 | | Registered User
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Alright, I've been at the point where the engine is taken apart enough to where I'm comfortable with taking it out of the car safely. What is the best way to go about getting it out? Should I use an engine(cherry picker) crane and pull it out the top, or is it easier to remove the bottom pieces and drop it out underneath? Suggestions or tips? Or even things to look out for before I pull it?
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05-03-2012, 09:55 PM
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I would pull it out the top just go slow and have a friend as a second set off eyes . I would remove the hood a well
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