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Old 02-26-2014, 05:38 PM   #981
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Finally got a heart for mine...just a temp motor till I can forge mine but she will live again!Click image for larger version

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$325 for a complete and I mean complete 4.6 is not bad at all...I can sell the pi swap for that when I get done
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Jk... thought that was going to dyno already?

I know, trust me. It's been infuriating me how the dyno process has been taking so long. It's been one problem or another. Has nothing to do with the car. Just with the shop or my way of getting the car to the shop for the dyno. It will be happening soon! I'm just as anxious as everyone else. Hah
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$325 for a complete and I mean complete 4.6 is not bad at all...I can sell the pi swap for that when I get done

That's a fantastic price if the motor is in good shape! When you're done you can take it a apart and sell the block for decent money and the PI swap. You're looking good!
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That's exactly what I was thinking!
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Still no dyno?

Correct. Frustrates me more than anyone. Trust me. We are about to load it up on trailer and take it to a dyno in Mississippi since three dynos here have ****ed me over multiple times.
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Aurora's heart died.

Well.. My worries have been realized today. Pulled plug from second cylinder on passenger side and it was closed. Again. This is the second plug. Put a bore scope down the cylinder and found tiny scratches on the piston. Piston is fine but that means it's making contact with the plug. Only on this cylinder though.. All other cylinders haven't had a problem in the three times we have checked. Only this one cylinder.

So there could be a couple things causing this... Each requires taking the engine out and breaking it all the way back down to nothing. AWESOME. I can't catch a freaking break.
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Could've got the tolerances wrong. Set the crank wrong. Or wrist pin on piston could've worked itself loose and allows the piston to come up a smidgen more than it should. Either way we are callin the engine builder tomorrow to see if they'll back up their work or not. Especially since we haven't even put ten miles on the engine and have been having this problem since we got it.
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Could've got the tolerances wrong. Set the crank wrong. Or wrist pin on piston could've worked itself loose and allows the piston to come up a smidgen more than it should. Either way we are callin the engine builder tomorrow to see if they'll back up their work or not. Especially since we haven't even put ten miles on the engine and have been having this problem since we got it.
They better warranty that, if not take legal action.

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Well that's not the ****ty part. The shorty part is that we have to remove the supercharger and break everything back down and pull the engine again. Basically undo everything we have done in the past month. That costs a lot of money and time. And time is what I don't have some I'm soon transferring stations and will be much busier at my new one. That's the big problem.

I'm a half second away from saying **** it and buying a stock motor and putting that in. I'm tired of all these headaches and setbacks and everyone around me dragging their feet wen I need things done.
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Man I hear that, nobody cares about anything unless it directly effects them... I mean I have a few good friends who really do give a **** but besides them and some family... yeah...

I'd tow that biotch to that shop and make them do all the work tho. They ****ed it up, they fix it.

And this is another reason I do all my own work. I don't trust a shop except for maybe Fordstrokers to build a motor as meticulously as I would. And they don't do modulars.
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Man I hear that, nobody cares about anything unless it directly effects them... I mean I have a few good friends who really do give a **** but besides them and some family... yeah...

I'd tow that biotch to that shop and make them do all the work tho. They ****ed it up, they fix it.

And this is another reason I do all my own work. I don't trust a shop except for maybe Fordstrokers to build a motor as meticulously as I would. And they don't do modulars.

Is love to do my own work but I've never built a motor, let alone a modular
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Aurora's heart died.

Well I talked to the engine builder and they said that sometimes that's a problem these 4.6s have and sometimes they're fine. Apparently cylinder two's cycle is just a hair taller than the other cylinders and this can even be seen by doing a compression test and cylinder two will be 15-20 higher than all the other cylinders. So apparently it's not a crazy issue and the builder said that if it was a wrist pin loose then it would've came apart and did more damage by now.

And the scratches we saw on top were actually number etchings in the top of the piston. We rotated the crank to get cylinder two to TDC and found that out.

So the engine builder said they would first put indexers on cylinder two plug(indexers go on the plug and act as spacers and just barely move the plug up for more PTV clearance) if they were troubleshooting this problem(which they have done before) and almost 100% of the time that solves the problems with no long term effects on the car.

So we will be getting the indexers in a few days from the shop, getting new plugs, and trying it out. They said run it around 1500-2000 for about five minutes(those RPMs produce the highest cycle for this problem) and check the plug. If it's fine then we will have no more issues from it at all.


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Well I talked to the engine builder and they said that sometimes that's a problem these 4.6s have and sometimes they're fine. Apparently cylinder two's cycle is just a hair taller than the other cylinders and this can even be seen by doing a compression test and cylinder two will be 15-20 higher than all the other cylinders. So apparently it's not a crazy issue and the builder said that if it was a wrist pin loose then it would've came apart and did more damage by now.

And the scratches we saw on top were actually number etchings in the top of the piston. We rotated the crank to get cylinder two to TDC and found that out.

So the engine builder said they would first put indexers on cylinder two plug(indexers go on the plug and act as spacers and just barely move the plug up for more PTV clearance) if they were troubleshooting this problem(which they have done before) and almost 100% of the time that solves the problems with no long term effects on the car.

So we will be getting the indexers in a few days from the shop, getting new plugs, and trying it out. They said run it around 1500-2000 for about five minutes(those RPMs produce the highest cycle for this problem) and check the plug. If it's fine then we will have no more issues from it at all.


So cross your fingers.

hmm. ive never heard that before...
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hmm. ive never heard that before...
Yeah. They said it's not super common but the problem has been around.

They also said that if the indexing doesn't work then they will back up their work and redo the engine build. That still would leave me out of time and money to pull the supercharger and engine again and then reinstall it... but at least the indexing thing is a start.
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Still waiting on indexers to see if it sorts out my cylinder two PTV issue.

But I'm still trying to move forward on the transmission issue.

A built 3650(700rwtq+ capability) and new 26spline clutch is looking to run me around $2900 shipped and done. And that'll leave me with my stock transmission in good running condition and a brand new 10 spline ram dual disk clutch- each I can sell to recoup maybe $1100-1400 if I get good prices

I want to stick with a 3650 if I'm going 5 speed but can't ignore the t56 6 speed swap idea but they're all looking to be around $4000+ for trans/clutch/driveshaft/flywheel... Are there better deals or courses of action out there?
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A Magnum with all the stuff is going to run around $4k and that's about as good as you are going to get. If you need a scattershield, you will probably spend near that to get the 3650 converted to have a removable bellhousing. The T45 does have a front plate that allows you to run an scattershield that is a lot cheaper and the trans shifts smoother but there are no aftermarket gearsets available for it like the 3650.

IMO, if you are doing a 3650, get a fresh stock one and a 26 spline shaft and she'll be good for 600+. If you need more than that in anything other than a road racer I'd say go automatic.
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i'd go auto regardless, but that's just me
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Congrats on being post number 1000 in my build thread! Haha. And no, you don't get a prize.

I absolutely loathe automatic cars. I honestly would rather pedal my bicycle to wherever I need to go than put an auto in my car.


And thanks for the info, Scotty! I didn't know the gears/syncros in the 3650 could handle 500-600rwhp/tq.
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Congrats on being post number 1000 in my build thread! Haha. And no, you don't get a prize.



I absolutely loathe automatic cars. I honestly would rather pedal my bicycle to wherever I need to go than put an auto in my car.





And thanks for the info, Scotty! I didn't know the gears/syncros in the 3650 could handle 500-600rwhp/tq.

Same here. I have bad legs and had a guy flip out on me when he asked if my car was stick or auto when the add clearly stated it was 5 speed. My smart *** comment got him spouting off about how he had bad knees. I told him to suck it the f&@$ up. I had bad legs and it's all I would own in a stang. No response after that.
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Congrats on being post number 1000 in my build thread! Haha. And no, you don't get a prize.

I absolutely loathe automatic cars. I honestly would rather pedal my bicycle to wherever I need to go than put an auto in my car.


And thanks for the info, Scotty! I didn't know the gears/syncros in the 3650 could handle 500-600rwhp/tq.
for my prize, I think after the car finished, bring it down to texas, let me go for a drive/ride!!!

we all have preferences lol, if/when I do turbo/SC i'll stay auto, but oh well. when you coming back from way up north? and do you have a expected time of being done? jw
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for my prize, I think after the car finished, bring it down to texas, let me go for a drive/ride!!!



we all have preferences lol, if/when I do turbo/SC i'll stay auto, but oh well. when you coming back from way up north? and do you have a expected time of being done? jw

Haha. Idk about that prize!

I should be back south around May. And it was supposed to be done a couple months ago but **** happens, I guess. All it really needs now is this PTV issue solved and a dyno tune. Then we are golden.
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Solved the PTV problem. A 32/1000 indexer was all it took. Ran it for an hour and checked the plug three times. All good! Running better than it ever has. Guess it's good to run on more than seven cylinders. Haha.


Now to bring it home next Monday to do more paint and bodywork and drill/prep/paint the new hood. Then it'll just sit under cover in my parent's garage until I come back to the continental US on my change of station around May.
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Time to hush the talk about going back to a stock engine...good to hear

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That was just me being frustrated. Lol.

I don't think I could give up so easily after spending the better part of two years on this, it seems.
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That was just me being frustrated. Lol.

I don't think I could give up so easily after spending the better part of two years on this, it seems.
You'd be amazed the number of ppl who get 90% done, then the car sits and they part it out or sell it as is for a big loss.

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You'd be amazed the number of ppl who get 90% done, then the car sits and they part it out or sell it as is for a big loss.

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Not surprised. I was more okay with shot going terribly wrong when I was hardly even started. But when it was supposed to be done two months ago.. I was gonna scrap it. -.- glad I've kept at it so far.
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When are you going to dyno it?

Dyno happens when I come home from this station in Alaska. I'm going to take about 20 days of leave before my next station. Gonna get my mom's truck and my friend's trailer.. Trailer the car to a dyno and then trailer it back home. And then start putting easy miles on it whole home on leave.

So it should be fully done and dyno'ed in May.
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Dyno happens when I come home from this station in Alaska. I'm going to take about 20 days of leave before my next station. Gonna get my mom's truck and my friend's trailer.. Trailer the car to a dyno and then trailer it back home. And then start putting easy miles on it whole home on leave.

So it should be fully done and dyno'ed in May.
This May or May 2015? Lol I kid I kid. I have been there and done that with my 95 Cobra. I even got it done but then it sat due to various reasons and I sold it. I am not letting my 98 get like that. I need to get my *** into the garage tonight after everyone goes to bed and install these projectors...
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This May or May 2015? Lol I kid I kid. I have been there and done that with my 95 Cobra. I even got it done but then it sat due to various reasons and I sold it. I am not letting my 98 get like that. I need to get my *** into the garage tonight after everyone goes to bed and install these projectors...

This May, smart ***. Haha

Get to work. My car would already be done if I was stateside to do it myself.
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