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Old 07-20-2012, 01:55 PM   #106
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Yes that they do. I wish it would go away so I can move this gt around and drop the k member out and get this engine mounted into the car.
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Yes that they do. I wish it would go away so I can move this gt around and drop the k member out and get this engine mounted into the car.
Take it out from the top.

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The old 4.6 isn't in the car anymore. They took it out engine and trans with the k member. So either way I got to undo the k and fix what they didn't put back on the car when they threw it together for me to pick up.
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Ok I will say this if you swap a 4v into your 2v car you will need to either, A. Lower the car or B. Grab a pair of Mach 1 springs for the front. Mach springs are shorter than the gt.
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Nomad, do you have a bump steer kit on yours?
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Nomad, do you have a bump steer kit on yours?
I have not yet lowered mine, working on engine bugs, but I will say no. Im not bothering with bump steer kits and those are not really intended for on road use. Instead you can save your cash and pick up a set of off set steering rack bushings. Also you can save money buy using caster bolts as oppose of springing for caster plates.
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I'll probably go the cheap route and cut coils for now til I can get a good set of springs. But as of right now I'm at a stand still with my swap til I get a intake and some other odds and ends...
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I'll probably go the cheap route and cut coils for now til I can get a good set of springs. But as of right now I'm at a stand still with my swap til I get a intake and some other odds and ends...
SR springs from AM. Dont cut those springs!!. They are 99.00 FS and with the discount you get from Mustang Evolution if comes to about 96 bucks. Cant beat that. Thats the route Im taking.

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But as of right now I'm at a stand still with my swap til I get a intake and some other odds and ends...
Didnt you see those intakes I posted??? Those were killer deals for those. What other odds and ends where you looking for? Also what hp goals are you wanting overall? Hit me up with a PM or get at me at my warhorse site and let me know your deal.
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Re: 97 GT 32V Swap

Well keep your fingers crossed.... working a deal to trade a ls1 with ecu harness and slp exhaust for some cash and a TRUE cobra intake fuel rails and CAL kit. Possible long tubes as well...
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Well keep your fingers crossed.... working a deal to trade a ls1 with ecu harness and slp exhaust for some cash and a TRUE cobra intake fuel rails and CAL kit. Possible long tubes as well...
Nice man! Crossing them, good luck.
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Re: 97 GT 32V Swap

Here you boys go!!! Version 1

2v to 4v Swap for New Edge
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Cool bro! Imma check it out
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Cool bro! Imma check it out
I made it easy for people to get. I put the link in my sig. So what do you think? The forum seems dead today.
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I made it easy for people to get. I put the link in my sig. So what do you think? The forum seems dead today.
Their prolly stuck waiting to download your PDF! LOL jk

I plan to print it off so I can see it better. From what I looked at on my phone, it's some really nice work! Having the pics in the too is killer.
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Their prolly stuck waiting to download your PDF! LOL jk

I plan to print it off so I can see it better. From what I looked at on my phone, it's some really nice work! Having the pics in the too is killer.
Its something to check on PC
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I had a chance to check out your Hot To last night. You did a bang-up job on this! I wonder if you wanted, if Mustang Evolution would let you make this into a sticky for the New Edge section? You could keep the PDF format linked in there so ppl could download it a take it with them, print it, etc. I assuming also that you could edit the sticky too when you wanted. Trojan Horse has a sticky for fox bodies that is excellent and I believe he updates it. Good work man!
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I had a chance to check out your Hot To last night. You did a bang-up job on this! I wonder if you wanted, if Mustang Evolution would let you make this into a sticky for the New Edge section? You could keep the PDF format linked in there so ppl could download it a take it with them, print it, etc. I assuming also that you could edit the sticky too when you wanted. Trojan Horse has a sticky for fox bodies that is excellent and I believe he updates it. Good work man!
A sticky would be great as long as I had ability to edit. It's strang out of all the folks on here there hasnt really been any feedback about it. I wish there was a way to see how many times it has been dl but no luck on how I have it setup.
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A sticky would be great as long as I had ability to edit. It's strang out of all the folks on here there hasnt really been any feedback about it. I wish there was a way to see how many times it has been dl but no luck on how I have it setup.
It's when it has that size. That's one reason of many why it's perfect for a sticky as you can gather that info you mentioned. Maybe try a new thread just on your how-to. Either way though, it's gonna be a big help to people as long as people can know about it.
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Here you boys go!!! Version 1

2v to 4v Swap for New Edge
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Updated file carrier

2v to 4v for New Edge
An man I wanna download this on my I pad can I do that? It all I have right now, I also will find this helpful because I want to not swap, but pull and replace my 2v...
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An man I wanna download this on my I pad can I do that? It all I have right now, I also will find this helpful because I want to not swap, but pull and replace my 2v...
Its loaded with info, to help you with making a choice. Showing you things that you can make at home or use what you have. Also has info on cams, wiring, etc. I dont see why you cant download on your tab. if it can read pdf files then your golden.
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Love the write up. But one thing is once I get my swap done I'll have info for the sn95 side of it for you to add. Better to keep it all into one write up instead of spreading it around ya know?
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Love the write up. But one thing is once I get my swap done I'll have info for the sn95 side of it for you to add. Better to keep it all into one write up instead of spreading it around ya know?
The physical aspect of it is the same. The difference is with the Coil packs. I would definitely like to know that stuff. But one thing I'd like to know is fuel rail setup. Something clean though I know on the older SN95's they had return line setups. Let me know when you get done, remember pictures, pictures, pictures lol.
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Its loaded with info, to help you with making a choice. Showing you things that you can make at home or use what you have. Also has info on cams, wiring, etc. I dont see why you cant download on your tab. if it can read pdf files then your golden.
Nomad man I'm sorry but I really don't know what PDF are

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Nomad man I'm sorry but I really don't know what PDF are
I'll probably have to download an app for that huh?
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The physical aspect of it is the same. The difference is with the Coil packs. I would definitely like to know that stuff. But one thing I'd like to know is fuel rail setup. Something clean though I know on the older SN95's they had return line setups. Let me know when you get done, remember pictures, pictures, pictures lol.
I will take plenty. Still working on what I'm going to do on that.
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Nomad man I'm sorry but I really don't know what PDF are

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I'll probably have to download an app for that huh?
if on a phone or tab then there is a adobe pdf reader. but most android can read the file by default.

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I will take plenty. Still working on what I'm going to do on that.
I'm not sure what side the mark rail comes out on I'm thinking drivers side. I'm sure you could find a 96-98 rail and mod it to work on a mark intake. If you got the scratch to get the cobra intake I see a good number that come complete.
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Mark comes out on the passenger side but with the intake coming out same way it sits on top of the pressure regulator.
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Mark comes out on the passenger side but with the intake coming out same way it sits on top of the pressure regulator.
See on a pre-99 the fuel rail should work and be plug and play. Theoretically.

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Now keep in mind I put my write up on there two post up. The thread owner thanked me for the info. This is the next post.
"Way too high. You can snag those motors for 1000 bucks and get the trans for 500 or so. You want to reuse your wiring harness and ECU. 3 wiring harness changes and its done, can even start on your 2V tune. I did this swap a couple years ago and had to sift through some misinformation out there as well as alot of good info.
For example, a big write-up tells you you must get Cobra COP connectors. NOT TRUE. Your stock 2v plugs will pop right onto the 4V COP. The change is reversing the polarity on the wires. 3 wiring changes = COP reverse polarity; Altenator plug (8 bucks at o'reillys); IAC needs lengthened (b-head only). thats it. your midpipe will bolt right up unless you went longtubes. starter is the same, etc.

The thermostat housing is expensive as hell. Nowadays people are doing a 2v lower hose with a Meizere inline upper thermostat. Way cheaper and works as good if not better. If you have questions then ask me. I had a ton when I did mine and had a guy answer all of them for me, such a lifesaver in a few tough spots.
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I guess if you wanted to try and cobble something together to make it work, perhaps so. It would be ugly and not work worth a crap. I purchased the other half from a Cobra and it worked just fine."

The next post confirms my post then I +1 one it... the thread has been silent. But thats why I'm thanking you guys at least over here guys read from the top down.
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Mark comes out on the passenger side but with the intake coming out same way it sits on top of the pressure regulator.
Found something for you... does look like a mess though. He did a write up but was mostly vague. I guess the coil wires are the same the only harness mods are the same as what I listed, with the exception of the COP's. He did have the IMRC hooked up I deleted mine. The fuel rail actually comes out the drivers side he ran lines over to it, not how I would have done this, especially clamps.
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I read that write up. Very vague indeed. Plus I don't like that mess of a fuel system set up. I'm going to mod the 2v fuel rail set up and see how that works. I've fixed the connecting lines on other rails with the rubber like hose that goes between them so I figure why can't I shorten or lengthen them as needed. I don't see why they wouldn't work. Plus it also means I get to reuse my 2v feed and return lines just like they were from the factory
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Won't fit the manifold. Better to just source a 98 rail. Tried the options well looked at different solutions. The 2v rail is wider than the 4v. I did have an idea using fuel line repair kits for the crossover section that would get rid of the hose and clamp setups. Was looking for that sort of setup when I was weighting options.

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Won't fit the manifold. Better to just source a 98 rail. Tried the options well looked at different solutions. The 2v rail is wider than the 4v.
That's why I'm going to shorten the hoses that link them together. The gray hoses that run across. I've fixed numerous ones so I don't see why I can't do the same to narrow it down a bit.
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Won't fit the manifold. Better to just source a 98 rail. Tried the options well looked at different solutions. The 2v rail is wider than the 4v. I did have an idea using fuel line repair kits for the crossover section that would get rid of the hose and clamp setups. Was looking for that sort of setup when I was weighting options.

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How hard is it to change the injectors on the 4v's? I want to do this to mine, but I'm a little chicken about it.
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That's why I'm going to shorten the hoses that link them together. The gray hoses that run across. I've fixed numerous ones so I don't see why I can't do the same to narrow it down a bit.
Its also how it fits, the rail it self is like a bolt of lightning. But then again I like clean and OEM look to things unless going aftermarket, but thats just my thing i guess. I looked at that myself but didn't like the fit. And with the fact the wiring does not mount like the 2v you have less room as well. Just thinking it would be not a good fit.

Cleaned it up more when I changed to the USCAR injector connectors.
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