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Old 08-22-2012, 09:32 PM   #246
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Sorry bro, hope they can get you setup soon. Did you have to give them the PCM's serial on the outside of it?
They have my strategy code for my ECM. Its strange the tune it self took but the rev limit is still at 6050. Not sure whats up with that. Just got an email from him, and now its "there could be something wrong with the car" im like ok, the car was fine stock so what could it be? I mean really your just tuning a GT. Man I wish I had a key for that advantage sct program so I can see for myself.
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Yup, it would really interesting to see what kinda options are available at hand. It would be great to be able to get it set just right. Maybe have a tune for certain outdoor conditions.

You mentioned dumping a small amount of E85 in there to boost the octane some. Have you tried that? I heard that burns really hot.
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Yup, it would really interesting to see what kinda options are available at hand. It would be great to be able to get it set just right. Maybe have a tune for certain outdoor conditions.

You mentioned dumping a small amount of E85 in there to boost the octane some. Have you tried that? I heard that burns really hot.
I used to run 5gal at a fill up all the time in my 2v stang, your not going to hurt it with that. Give it a try and as a matter of fact a tune and larger injectors and you can run e85 all the time.
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Question..... Since the Throttle Cable is too short from the GT why can't you use a v6 cable from say a 95? Wouldn't it be longer since it travels over to the passenger side of the car? I know the 97 GT's throttle cable doesn't travel very far so why can't the v6's cable be used?
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:43 PM   #250
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Question..... Since the Throttle Cable is too short from the GT why can't you use a v6 cable from say a 95? Wouldn't it be longer since it travels over to the passenger side of the car? I know the 97 GT's throttle cable doesn't travel very far so why can't the v6's cable be used?
You will need a Mark Cable as it has a lock on the cable it self for its bracket.


How is the tuning training going? Needing someone to look at my tune file and give me full access to it. My tuner set my file to 7k but it wont change my ECM. Im not sure why or whats going on. But I would like to have everything that user adjustable open for me to look at. And to make sure it is for a Manual and not Auto.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:29 AM   #251
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Just out of curiosity, is there anyone that is into or knows someone that is into RC Trucks? Looking to sell my Nitro Monster Truck. PM me if anyone knows.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:11 PM   #252
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Still getting enrolled and all. But when I do get some info for you I'll help you out
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My wife was laughing at me for walking around telling her I was gonna "swell up" and do a clutch replacement all by myself. Ha! I'm actually glad my warranty covered my tranny and so Ford will be doing the labor of my clutch replacement. I want to learn more before I do something like that by myself. My closest friend lives an hour away or I'd have help. As soon as my son gets older, we are gonna get to wrenching. I want him to be a fully capable motor head.

P.S. I'd be hanging out and learning from you guys if we lived closer.
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My wife was laughing at me for walking around telling her I was gonna "swell up" and do a clutch replacement all by myself. Ha! I'm actually glad my warranty covered my tranny and so Ford will be doing the labor of my clutch replacement. I want to learn more before I do something like that by myself. My closest friend lives an hour away or I'd have help. As soon as my son gets older, we are gonna get to wrenching. I want him to be a fully capable motor head.

P.S. I'd be hanging out and learning from you guys if we lived closer.
Where you live azure?
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Live in Brownsburg, IN. Essentially Indianapolis.
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Live in Brownsburg, IN. Essentially Indianapolis.
I'll be in Indy this month. Going to visit a relative, then to comic con in Ohio. Just a short weekend trip.
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I'll be in Indy this month. Going to visit a relative, then to comic con in Ohio. Just a short weekend trip.
Is the comic con the one where they intro new online/pc/console games?
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No its like a big meet and greet with actors and things. I'm gonna try to meet Stan Lee.
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lol From mustangs to comics.....yep we are nerds lol
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My wife was laughing at me for walking around telling her I was gonna "swell up" and do a clutch replacement all by myself. Ha! I'm actually glad my warranty covered my tranny and so Ford will be doing the labor of my clutch replacement. I want to learn more before I do something like that by myself. My closest friend lives an hour away or I'd have help. As soon as my son gets older, we are gonna get to wrenching. I want him to be a fully capable motor head.

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Its not that hard my man.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:09 PM   #261
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So this thread seems to be dying.... Im posting some other vids. We need some photos 95v686gt. So get on that. Parts and pieces would be nice. This weekend I'm hoping to get a ride along video.



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So this thread seems to be dying.... Im posting some other vids. We need some photos 95v686gt. So get on that. Parts and pieces would be nice. This weekend I'm hoping to get a ride along video.



I'm almost done viewing your highlights vid. Why do you need to reverse the wiring for the COP harness and the alternator? Just curious.
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I'm almost done viewing your highlights vid. Why do you need to reverse the wiring for the COP harness and the alternator? Just curious.
The coils have a reversed polarity as is the same as the alternator.
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It would be really cool to edit your video and add pictures from your write-up and show them when your talking about that part of the process. There might be other pics you took during the swap that might work too. It would be a really cool video.
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It would be really cool to edit your video and add pictures from your write-up and show them when your talking about that part of the process. There might be other pics you took during the swap that might work too. It would be a really cool video.
Make like a movie of sorts. I hhad thought of that at the time but was by myself a lot of the time. So I had no camera man.
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Well looks like its still quiet Azure. I thought I might have got a conversation with the videos. Might have to make another thread.
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So Nomad, is there anything at all left to do on your ride related to your swap?
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:13 PM   #268
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So Nomad, is there anything at all left to do on your ride related to your swap?
Well I'd like to get it on a dyno before I put it up for the winter see if I can fine tune it and see where I will end up. That will dictate what I do this winter. I'm looking into having my block re-sleeved. I'm thinking on going 3.70in pistons to give me the 302ci. Not sure though. I do want to get a base dyno to see what my head work has did. I do have C heads to work on this winter as well. I've did decided to get a good set of cams though. Since My pistons are technically dished I dont worry of a high lift cam. My valve relief is my dish.

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Well I'd like to get it on a dyno before I put it up for the winter see if I can fine tune it and see where I will end up. That will dictate what I do this winter. I'm looking into having my block re-sleeved. I'm thinking on going 3.70in pistons to give me the 302ci. Not sure though. I do want to get a base dyno to see what my head work has did. I do have C heads to work on this winter as well. I've did decided to get a good set of cams though. Since My pistons are technically dished I dont worry of a high lift cam. My valve relief is my dish.
Yeah I'd like to know what HP your at too. Are you going pretty aggressive with the cams?
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Yeah I'd like to know what HP your at too. Are you going pretty aggressive with the cams?
Not that aggressive where it will barely run but will be noticable. I wouldn't mind getting that hi lift Ford Racing cam kit.

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Not that aggressive where it will barely run but will be noticable. I wouldn't mind getting that hi lift Ford Racing cam kit.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/m/part.asp?p=5637
Yes, that's a cool kit. Would you need to change anything to support the FR cam kit? I'd like to hear what that would sound like. :drool:
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Yes, that's a cool kit. Would you need to change anything to support the FR cam kit? I'd like to hear what that would sound like. :drool:
I would just change out the parts that come with the kit. then retune the car for the new cams.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:00 AM   #273
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Check this out Azure. BTW what car is that on that sign? Because if its a Prius then I'm revoking your man card, and Mustang creds lol.


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Check this out Azure. BTW what car is that on that sign? Because if its a Prius then I'm revoking your man card, and Mustang creds lol.

Cammed Mach 1 1/4 mile Run
Lmao, yes indeed, it is a Prius. It is my punishment for not insisting on a different rental car while my car is getting a new tranny.

---------- Post added at 12:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:03 PM ----------

Ooooo! I want that for my Mach!
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Hehe get a cam for that Prius ;P
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Im updating the write up today I had took some new photo of the thermostat housing. I think Im going to add 2 more at timing because Im getting some rough startups. Seems to be running alittle on the rich side. I've notice a miss at around the 2k mark especially in 3rd and 4th. Funny its not causing a CEL but its there, kinda feels like your pulling a trailer thats tugging on you. Its not rapid but just slight random tugs. And some back fires on shift from first to second to third (not all the time) as well as on the decel. I really need to invest in the SCT software. Just Bugs that need to be worked out.
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Lol, how funny would that be!
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Im updating the write up today I had took some new photo of the thermostat housing. I think Im going to add 2 more at timing because Im getting some rough startups. Seems to be running alittle on the rich side. I've notice a miss at around the 2k mark especially in 3rd and 4th. Funny its not causing a CEL but its there, kinda feels like your pulling a trailer thats tugging on you. Its not rapid but just slight random tugs. And some back fires on shift from first to second to third (not all the time) as well as on the decel. I really need to invest in the SCT software. Just Bugs that need to be worked out.
I have experienced that before, but not since I cleaned my IAC and MAF. That could be a coicidence, though. I can't remember what RPM or gear for sure. i just remember the feeling you described and have had occasional backfires.

Also, when it comes to re-learning idle and fuel trim, I saw one thread where they said you need to do a few WOT early on after reconnecting the battery and running the engine. Don't know if I believe that.

The first thing I'm doing when I get my car back is changing the spark plugs. I don't think mine are wrong neccessarily, I just want to go with what many have suggested on the mach1registry.org. The consensus is if your tuning, go slightly colder than the stockers. I found this website while search in that forum...

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I'm going to go with the NGK TR6's. Now, didn't you suggest NGK's? I remember you mentioned one that had a longer thread that went further in the cyclinder...?
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I have experienced that before, but not since I cleaned my IAC and MAF. That could be a coicidence, though. I can't remember what RPM or gear for sure. i just remember the feeling you described and have had occasional backfires.
I cleaned the MAF and air temp sensor and my IAC is new. I have noticed the since Ive gotten some running times the delayed idle down has calmed down quite a bit. It acts more like me GT did.

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I'm going to go with the NGK TR6's. Now, didn't you suggest NGK's? I remember you mentioned one that had a longer thread that went further in the cyclinder...?
Yes I did, I found compared to the Motorcraft/Autolite (I said Autolite because they are made from the same supply) the NGK had a higher thread count. I probably be switching to copper core NGK. But as for colder plugs those should be used for FI applications.
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I cleaned the MAF and air temp sensor and my IAC is new. I have noticed the since Ive gotten some running times the delayed idle down has calmed down quite a bit. It acts more like me GT did.


Yes I did, I found compared to the Motorcraft/Autolite (I said Autolite because they are made from the same supply) the NGK had a higher thread count. I probably be switching to copper core NGK. But as for colder plugs those should be used for FI applications.
Yup, I'm gonna switch then. NGK's have a solid rep too. Right now I have Autolite 104's. They helped my pinging a little. It will be a while before I can get back to working on my tune. I'll have to heed the break-in period of my clutch and tranny.

I agree, I wish I had the software too. Nothing against Bama. I think Bama will get it right once we get back on it. I just like more control of my situation.
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