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Old 07-25-2012, 12:10 AM   #1
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mach 1 motor

Was wondering if a 04 mach 1 motor will bolt up in my 98 gt?
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:13 AM   #2
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Re: mach 1 motor

It will fit but your going to need

Wire harness
Transmission
Flywheel
Clutch
All the parts off the mach1
And some custom parts
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95v686gt is working on a Mark 8 DOHV swap in his 97 GT. I think he's looking for an intake. He is good at obtaining used parts on the cheap. I'm sure he can provide some insight.

Nomad32v just did a swap of a Mark 8 DOHV in his 02 GT. He might be able to help with info on a 98 swap too.

The reason for the Mark 8 engine is that you can get these motors cheaper than a Mach1 engine. Probably easier to find I'm guessing too. Search through some of their threads for info. Good luck!
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95v686gt is working on a Mark 8 DOHV swap in his 97 GT. I think he's looking for an intake. He is good at obtaining used parts on the cheap. I'm sure he can provide some insight.

Nomad32v just did a swap of a Mark 8 DOHV in his 02 GT. He might be able to help with info on a 98 swap too.

The reason for the Mark 8 engine is that you can get these motors cheaper than a Mach1 engine. Probably easier to find I'm guessing too. Search through some of their threads for info. Good luck!
Yeah cheaper but The Mach1 has Forged Internals and better Heads/Cams
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I didn't know the Mach engines had forged internals.

Nomad32v did some work on his Mark 8 engine before he dropped it in. He plans to slap a blower on it down the road. I think he was looking for teksid block. The Mach's are not teksid. I can't remember where they are made. But, I think the teksid block is stronger and will handle FI better.
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I didn't know the Mach engines had forged internals.

Nomad32v did some work on his Mark 8 engine before he dropped it in. He plans to slap a blower on it down the road. I think he was looking for teksid block. The Mach's are not teksid. I can't remember where they are made. But, I think the teksid block is stronger and will handle FI better.
The mach 1 engines are a WAP block (windsor aluminum plant) and are NOT forged. (Sorry azure) the rods are definitely the weak point. The stock power limit is about 450hp.
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The mach 1 engines are a WAP block (windsor aluminum plant) and are NOT forged. (Sorry azure) the rods are definitely the weak point. The stock power limit is about 450hp.
Thanks! I knew there was a reason Nomad32v was not using the Mach1 block.
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Thanks! I knew there was a reason Nomad32v was not using the Mach1 block.
The wap block is good for about 750 lb ft of tq.
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Thanks! I knew there was a reason Nomad32v was not using the Mach1 block.
Azure do you know.anything about the Lincoln town car 4.6? I found one for 200 with a tranny, I figured that may be a good build start
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Azure do you know.anything about the Lincoln town car 4.6? I found one for 200 with a tranny, I figured that may be a good build start
No sorry, I didn't even know the Mark 8 cars had DOHV 4,6's until I got on here and started talking to Nomad32v, LOL
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Azure do you know.anything about the Lincoln town car 4.6? I found one for 200 with a tranny, I figured that may be a good build start
There the same as the 4.6 2v in the gt I'm pretty sure.
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There the same as the 4.6 2v in the gt I'm pretty sure.
+1 From what I understand they are the same.
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+1 From what I understand they are the same.
Okay thanks guys I think its a good deal 200 for compleate motor and transmission. I'll prolly pass it up for a better block though lol
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The mach 1 engines are a WAP block (windsor aluminum plant) and are NOT forged. (Sorry azure) the rods are definitely the weak point. The stock power limit is about 450hp.
I was thinking about Terminator Blocks.. Sorry
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Re: mach 1 motor

mach 1's with manual trans have a forged crank the auto does not. Neither have forged rods/piston.
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mach 1's with manual trans have a forged crank the auto does not. Neither have forged rods/piston.
Thanks Spector, makes you wonder why the crank w/manual tranny. Do you think because of the herky-jerky TR-3650 trannys?
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Thanks Spector, makes you wonder why the crank w/manual tranny. Do you think because of the herky-jerky TR-3650 trannys?
4v are made to rev,and manuals spin higher longer naturally then there auto brethren. the upper valve train is made to spin 8k+. Gt's have the same 3650 and can spin up abit. The valve train is also made to spin as the rockers and lash adjusters are the same. PI GT's also have beehive springs. Ford though mass produced the GT, in comparison the Cobra and Mach are low build numbers. Bottom line COST. Just as in the 97-98 triton 5.4 came with a forged units. But cost reared its ugly head.

The stock bottom end is stout to handle 400+ (have seen 500 2yrs still running) the issue people have is tunes. Tunes are the culprit most of the time in engine failure. You can burn up an engine because the traction coming on during WOT on a FI engine, because the ECM retards timing and cuts fuel. There are many vehicles that have powder forged rods. One being the LSx engine they to have powder cast rods and enuthitic pistons.
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Thanks Nomad!

32vNomad not Nomad32v dammit, sorry bro!
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Thanks Nomad!

32vNomad not Nomad32v dammit, sorry bro!
Its all good bro in other circles Im known as NomadGT
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