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Old 09-14-2012, 11:38 PM   #1
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Shortie headers worth buying?

I have an 04 GT with a Magnaflow off road Tru-X into a Magnaflow Magnapck cat back and I really don't wanna get rid of my mid pipe and I know I could get shorty headers but are they really worth a waste of money when you compare them to the stock cast iron exhaust manifolds? I want a few extra power but I don't wanna lose my mid pipe.
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I have an 04 GT with a Magnaflow off road Tru-X into a Magnaflow Magnapck cat back and I really don't wanna get rid of my mid pipe and I know I could get shorty headers but are they really worth a waste of money when you compare them to the stock cast iron exhaust manifolds? I want a few extra power but I don't wanna lose my mid pipe.
I'm in the same boat lol I have stock manifolds with a Mac prochamber. I dot want to pay for a new midpipe but then I don't want to waste money on shorties if there not worth it lol idk I'd like to see what people have to say
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:05 AM   #3
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Yes that's exactly I feel. I've heard mixed reactions with shorties. I know long tubes are way better it's just I'm in your case too, don't wanna get a new mid pipe but don't wanna waste money on shorties when they don't do too much.
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Yes that's exactly I feel. I've heard mixed reactions with shorties. I know long tubes are way better it's just I'm in your case too, don't wanna get a new mid pipe but don't wanna waste money on shorties when they don't do too much.
Yeah man well who knows lol i know longtubes are the best but how good are shorties? Maybe someone will chime in
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:13 AM   #5
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I know man hopefully, I just wanna know are they more beneficial they are than the stock manifolds or not and even worth buying.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:18 AM   #6
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Don't know the power gain of shorties but I guy on here told me he went through hell getting longtubes on his stang which was your body style! Me personally if there is any concern in benifit over price on shorties I'd wait and spring for long tubes, however take into account the hell you'll go through putting them on! Took me 4.5 hrs but that's on a different body style
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:23 AM   #7
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Yeah I know long tubes are crazy good when it's comes to horsepower gain. Significantly more than shorties, it's just that I don't wanna take out my mid pipe that I really like and that makes it sound real good and have to get a new shorty mid pipe so I was just wondering the horsepower gain if any in shorties. Also, I would have no idea how to install lol. I know simple bolt on mods but headers aren't really my thing lol.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:26 AM   #8
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Unless one of you're stock manifolds is cracked and needs replacement ASAP then get the shortie headers. Otherwise trying to replace them for gains wont be worth it, with longtubes you eliminate cats so you won't pass smog. Sell your midpipe and buy a matching set of longtubes and midpipe. Doing headers takes a full day for some people so might as well do longtubes they are better gains and sound so much better. Shorties you will see little hp and little sound difference.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:31 AM   #9
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I'll just stick with my Magnaflow x pipe and cat back and not worth messing with shorties. Thanks man, I appreciate it. Now I know!
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No problem.
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Unless one of you're stock manifolds is cracked and needs replacement ASAP then get the shortie headers. Otherwise trying to replace them for gains wont be worth it, with longtubes you eliminate cats so you won't pass smog. Sell your midpipe and buy a matching set of longtubes and midpipe. Doing headers takes a full day for some people so might as well do longtubes they are better gains and sound so much better. Shorties you will see little hp and little sound difference.

I thought they made catted pipes for long tube?
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:06 AM   #12
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All i know my buddy that helps me work on my cars said if i decide to put headers on my car to loose his phone number that day cause it is a pain in the *** cause ots so tight
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All i know my buddy that helps me work on my cars said if i decide to put headers on my car to loose his phone number that day cause it is a pain in the *** cause ots so tight

Smart man lol
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I hear a lot of people say don't get long tubes cause if you ever need to work on the trans you have to take the motor out to get them off. And my opinion short tubes are a waste of time for the little gain you would get.
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I thought they made catted pipes for long tube?
No you eliminate all 4 cats with longtubes
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:15 PM   #16
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I use to be long tubes or nothing but I am seriously considering bbk equal length shorties because that's what long tubes are equal length these shorties are stock replacement but will gain power and completely change the sound of the car
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:22 PM   #17
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No you eliminate all 4 cats with longtubes
But u can get catted mid pipe for long tubes, right? I thought I seen them.
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:24 PM   #18
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Them equal lengths are the way to go but i heard they are dam near impossible to get them in
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Them equal lengths are the way to go but i heard they are dam near impossible to get them in
That's why I am getting a shop to do it I know for a fact I'll snap a bolt in the head lol
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:28 PM   #20
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Yea lol i want to turbo my car so headers would be a waste of money
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:47 AM   #21
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Yup! Shorties are tough. You can't install them in your driveway. You need a lift, long engine jacks to hold up engine and tranny, adjustable tranny jack to lower k-member, I used hardened locking bolts to install mine.

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Oh, most important, use new OEM metal gadgets. Throw away the ones that come with the heads

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Yup! Shorties are tough. You can't install them in your driveway. You need a lift, long engine jacks to hold up engine and tranny, adjustable tranny jack to lower k-member, I used hardened locking bolts to install mine.

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Oh, most important, use new OEM metal gadgets. Throw away the ones that come with the heads
Oh, most important, use new OEM metal GASKETS. Throw away the ones that come with the heads
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:07 AM   #22
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I read this whole post trying to learn about exhaust and headers, I have a 98 gt auto and it all stock and I want my car to sound like a beast in the exhaust, can anybody explain to me the difference between long tubes and shorties and does anybody know how I can make my mustang sound mean

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Old 09-16-2012, 09:29 AM   #23
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:50 AM   #25
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They have a 3inch lip for the back and 2 inch lip for the front
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:05 AM   #26
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Did you get them on-line?
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:16 AM   #27
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Ebay bud i put in mustang wheels and they came up they are universal 5 lug they where 379 and 150 shipping i offered him 350 and he accepted it... the guy has a assload of different wheels the are overstock wheels
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my little brother got shorty's on his 02 gt and he loves it. it felt a little faster and louder than stock headers. can an exhaust shop fab the mid pipe if someone got longtubes ?
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:36 PM   #29
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I was wondering that same thing too. Could you just buy long tubes and have the exhaust stop cut your mid pipe down but I've heard it's just better to save up and get the matching shorty mid pipe with it so it bolts right up but that's super expensive.
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