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Old 12-05-2012, 02:48 PM   #1
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Power capability of the 4.6l 2v

Kind of curious what kinda power can be seen out of these cars with the following mods.
Lt headers
O/r h pipe
Catback exhaust
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Intake
Heads

Would one be able to get 400 hp out of one of these motors with these mods?
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I'm no professional by any means, but you can probably get close with those mods. I would say maybe 370?? Maybe? 400 horses with a N/A 2V from what I've seen is pretty tough to obtain.
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Kind of curious what kinda power can be seen out of these cars with the following mods.
Lt headers
O/r h pipe
Catback exhaust
Cai
Tb
Larger maf
Intake
Heads

Would one be able to get 400 hp out of one of these motors with these mods?
You'd have to get some stage II cams along with all that and then you might be in the ball park.
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You'd have to get some stage II cams along with all that and then you might be in the ball park.
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Whahave you guys seen these cars run with set ups like this in the 1/4 i want a 12 sec na car.
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You can get 12 sec with those mods easily
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:08 PM   #7
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With or without gears? If im goin all na power will 4.10 gears be fine?
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From want I have read 400 from a n/a 2v will take some serious time and $ and you will have to run race gas. It will not be a DD...320-350 max for a safe n/a dd. my car has CAI,78mm tb, cat back, pro chamber mid pipe, 93 race tune and I would say I'm pushing 260-280 to the wheels if that...stock we push 260 crank, about 230ish wheel
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Closer to 3 than 400, I have LT's, x pipe, intake and pullies and im probably around 3 to 315 to The wheels.
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Lt x pipe and intake arent the money maker tho. Neither are pullies.
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Closer to 3 than 400, I have LT's, x pipe, intake and pullies and im probably around 3 to 315 to The wheels.
I don't see 70+ HP in that setup, I wish it was because I'd be up there with you.
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Lt x pipe and intake arent the money maker tho. Neither are pullies.
Totally missed you had heads and intake, no knowledge there so I shall remove myself from this discussion =}… but based off simple knowledge id say close to 350 crank with what you got, no expert though just my thought

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I don't see 70+ HP in that setup, I wish it was because I'd be up there with you.
But im stock at 320 so just my guesstimation

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I don't see 70+ HP in that setup, I wish it was because I'd be up there with you.
But im stock at 320 crank so just my guesstimation
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He has a cobra so it comes with 310 stock compared to the 2v 260 hp
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Totally missed you had heads and intake, no knowledge there so I shall remove myself from this discussion =}… but based off simple knowledge id say close to 350 crank with what you got, no expert though just my thought

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But im stock at 320 so just my guesstimation

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But im stock at 320 crank so just my guesstimation
Cobra, my mistake lol. Assumed it was a gt for some reason.
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He has a cobra so it comes with 310 stock compared to the 2v 260 hp
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Cobra, my mistake lol. Assumed it was a gt for some reason.
320 my good sir =}„„„„ =}„ it happens
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320 my good sir =}„„„„ =}„ it happens
Lol sorry haha 320
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So 370/400 with stock bottom end isnt obtainable?
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So 370/400 with stock bottom end isnt obtainable?
NA, I would say unlikely. Not that it couldn't be done, but it would be some serious $$$. FI is the best way to get into that range.
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Yeah i could prolly buy a long block and put it in myself and throw a sc on it for less. What ya think? Sound about right?
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Yeah i could prolly buy a long block and put it in myself and throw a sc on it for less. What ya think? Sound about right?
Wouldn't even need a long block lol
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Honestly, pull your motor and rebuild it with a forged kit. Then slap boost on it and he happy all day....if u don't have that kinda cash ATM.. Buy a SC and run 6lbs of boost and start saving your $. 6lbs of boost with your boltons will give you around 380 with a mild safe tune. I wouldn't push it till you have the $ to rebuild that sumbiotch.
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How much power can the stock block hold? Not the internals just the block.
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How much power can the stock block hold? Not the internals just the block.
Not sure about the block, I know with current internals it can hold max of 450 but ur looking at a time bomb with that much hp. My plan is to buy a block setup from mmr with internals when I get the $ and then get some trick flow heads with sc cams and a sc, not sure if I want roots or config ATM but that's what I wanna do.
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I want a whipple or kb. Thats prolly what ill do when i can afford it.
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I have a teksid block I'd sell if anyone is interested
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If your going to build a F/I engine go teskid block. Alot more to work with. Plus like I said to another guy. DOHC loves F/I.
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I have a teksid block I'd sell if anyone is interested
How much you asking for it? Is it complete?
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How much you asking for it? Is it complete?
I've got everything but heads and pistons, it dropped a valve and I scrapped those, I had it checked at a machine shop they said its not warped or scored or anything
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What is teksid?
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I've got everything but heads and pistons, it dropped a valve and I scrapped those, I had it checked at a machine shop they said its not warped or scored or anything
Oh ok. Cool.

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What is teksid?
It's just a really well built 4V engine. Lol. Am I right?
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They were used in all 99 Cobras, and a bunch of the 2001s had it as well.
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Ohh okay haha. What makes it diff from other motors in other cobras?
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Ohh okay haha. What makes it diff from other motors in other cobras?
Good question. Most people just say its tougher compared to others. But I'm no professional. So maybe someone will chime in with more experience.
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The teskid block is found in your lincoln mark viii's and cobras. Marks were the FIRST to have to DOHC 4.6L. Cobras got them in 96. Teskid block can handle 1500HP WITHOUT modification to the block itself. Marks had a cast crank where the cobra had a forged. Teskid blocks were made in italy

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The teskid block is alot stronger than the other blocks. check out 32vNomad's write up on the swap from 2v to 4v in his new edge. LOTS of info about them there.
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So I have a teskid? Sicknessssssss
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