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Old 12-17-2012, 04:20 PM   #1
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Dash buttons conversion

I was wondering if it would be possible to replace the 3 dash buttons by the shifter ( rear defroster, tc, and fogs) with something like in this picture.

I would fab up my own aluminum plate to hold three led toggle switches. I really like the race car style of the switches and my main question is if its possible to get it to work.
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A little wiring mod. And it should work I don't see why it wouldn't
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Where would you mount that?
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Where would you mount that?
+1 You'd have to reconfigure a few things.
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I just wanna say that is an awesome idea. Kept us posted on this if you decide to go that way.
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I was wondering if it would be possible to replace the 3 dash buttons by the shifter ( rear defroster, tc, and fogs) with something like in this picture.

I would fab up my own aluminum plate to hold three led toggle switches. I really like the race car style of the switches and my main question is if its possible to get it to work.
What year is your car?

It matters because the specific functional nature of the switches changed over the years--some moved from being positive action to momentary, etc...
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indeed please keep us updated as to how u go about it, i would love to know as well if i choose to do the same then we would have a write up on how
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What year is your car?

It matters because the specific functional nature of the switches changed over the years--some moved from being positive action to momentary, etc...
It's an 02 gt
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It's an 02 gt
On the 2001 through 2004 models the fog lamp switch is a single pole single throw (SPST) ON-OFF switch. The rear window defroster and traction control switches are both SPST momentary contact (ON)-OFF units (the ON in parentheses indicates that is the momentary position).

Replacing any of these would just require having an appropriately configured switch and wiring it across the wires leading to each of the stock switches as indicated below.

Here are the switch diagrams;

fog lamp - ON-OFF to the brown and white/black wires:


rear window defrost - (ON)-OFF to the pink/light blue and black/yellow wires:


traction control - (ON)-OFF to the pink/black and gray:



In all three switches the switch illumination and indicator lamps are LEDs. Shown below is the t/c switch, the others are similar:



But there's a gotcha!

The LEDs have built-in dropping resistors so that they can be operated from a 12V source without an external current limiting resistor. Radio Shack does not sell such devices, however they are available--here's an outfit that does supply them.
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So the wiring for the switches would go across what you hi lighted on the diagram? And do I need a special switch?
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Would a toggle switch like in the picture work for tc and defroster even though they are momentary contact?
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Would a toggle switch like in the picture work for tc and defroster even though they are momentary contact?
If it were momentary contact toggle switch.

A "regular" switch could be used, however you would have to switch it on and then immediately off to toggle the t/c or defroster on/off. The instrument cluster senses the trailing edge of the pulse generated when the switch is switched on and then off--I.e. it senses when you release the switch, not when you press it.

I believe the vendors of switches as you have shown do make matching momentary contact devices...
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:28 PM   #13
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So a switch like this would work?

http://www.colehersee.com/home/item/cat/46/55020/

Then I would just buy the military style cover
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That will look sick!!
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:34 PM   #15
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I'm gonna head down to radio shack and see if I can pick up 3 spst toggle switches with the covers. For defroster and tc I will just switch them on and off.
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keep us posted man , I've been wanting to do the same for a while but never got that into it :/
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So a switch like this would work?

Toggle Switches | Heavy Duty Toggle Switches 25A | SPST Momentary 25A Toggle Switches55020 | Cole Hersee - Littelfuse

Then I would just buy the military style cover
Yup, that's the one...
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I'm gonna head down to radio shack and see if I can pick up 3 spst toggle switches with the covers. For defroster and tc I will just switch them on and off.
They make momentary switches that basically look just like toggle switches. I would think Radio Shack would have them. Based on previous posts on this thread, it sounds like you need one SPST toggle switch and two momentary toggle switches.
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I see now that you figured ^that out.
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Hey guys I just picked up the toggle switch for the fogs. Radioshack didn't have the momentary switches. Does anyone know how to wire this?? Sorry for all the questions!
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One is the is ground, one is power, and one (middle) is the relay. You would need to run independent wires to this switch then solder them on. I'd not even mess with this. Not to bash your idea on this but I think someone needs to give you some constructive criticism. Just my thoughts, but really what added benefit will be gained?
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One is the is ground, one is power, and one (middle) is the relay. You would need to run independent wires to this switch then solder them on. I'd not even mess with this. Not to bash your idea on this but I think someone needs to give you some constructive criticism. Just my thoughts, but really what added benefit will be gained?
These are not illuminated or indicator switches so there is no need for a ground connection to the switch. He is simply replacing the stock switches with the SPDT (Single Pole Double Throw) units from Radio Shack.

I edited the photos in my posting above to show how the switches would be connected, but here they are again anyway.

fog lamp - ON-OFF to the brown and white/black wires:


rear window defrost - (ON)-OFF to the pink/light blue and black/yellow wires:


traction control - (ON)-OFF to the pink/black and gray:



As to why the OP is undertaking this project I have no idea, and personally think it will look like crap--however far be it from me to judge other people's tastes, or dissuade anyone from pursuing a vision...
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As to why the OP is undertaking this project I have no idea, and personally think it will look like crap--however far be it from me to judge other people's tastes, or dissuade anyone from pursuing a vision...
Well you just did judge it with that statement. Now if those switches were to function another process I'd be all for it. Most people post to get opinions on issues and ideas on here and I simply gave mine.
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Well you just did judge it with that statement. Now if those switches were to function another process I'd be all for it. Most people post to get opinions on issues and ideas on here and I simply gave mine.
^What's the problem then?
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Umm there is no issue. It's not my car so he/she can do as they please. IMO it's just a not a mod that I would partake in. I simply expressed that not to persuade the author to change his mind, but rather to explore his options. That's all. I have no problem with anyone wanting to mod there ride, after all that's what all of us are doing on here.
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