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Old 01-08-2013, 06:19 PM   #1
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Hello I'm 16 and have a 2003 mustang GT with vortech s trim, all bolt on, lift weight puck flywheel, 373s, and short throw shifted. Tuned professionally. 450HP 373RWHP
I've heard that if you push over 450HP you will throw rods with the 4.6 sohc. Is that true? And if not what are some things I could do to make it a little bit faster and make it get down the strip faster. Running 11.9 right now. Just anything that would help me or I should know please help. Had another 01 GT that I wrecked , hydroplaned. I'm 16 and still wanting to learn stuff tht I don't know. Pleas help me out. Thanks
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I don't think you need that extra hp especially with an 11.9' that's fast enough for now try upgrading suspension to lower that ET.
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Yeap suspension and tires
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I would not recommend the 450hp also. Maybe 440 max.
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I wouldn't push that block much more until you can get a built bottom end. I would definitely do as the other guys said. A driver mod is another big thing. You could try shedding some weight as well.
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I wouldn't push that block much more until you can get a built bottom end. I would definitely do as the other guys said. A driver mod is another big thing. You could try shedding some weight as well.
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You should just plain practice driving. You've wrecked one already. And I would assume it wasn't as modified as your current one. I would say a stock mustang could be a handful for a younger driver. The more seat time you have in the car, the quicker you will learn the limits of both the car and yourself.
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You should just plain practice driving. You've wrecked one already. And I would assume it wasn't as modified as your current one. I would say a stock mustang could be a handful for a younger driver. The more seat time you have in the car, the quicker you will learn the limits of both the car and yourself.
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Hello I'm 16 and have a 2003 mustang GT with vortech s trim, all bolt on, lift weight puck flywheel, 373s, and short throw shifted. Tuned professionally. 450HP 373RWHP
I've heard that if you push over 450HP you will throw rods with the 4.6 sohc. Is that true? And if not what are some things I could do to make it a little bit faster and make it get down the strip faster. Running 11.9 right now. Just anything that would help me or I should know please help. Had another 01 GT that I wrecked , hydroplaned. I'm 16 and still wanting to learn stuff tht I don't know. Pleas help me out. Thanks
Hahah nice stang if you ran a 11.9 in 1/4 mile. To prevent throwing a rod or piston you could get stronger pistons and rods, a built bottom end kit. Speed shifting, slicks or drag radial, or wide street tires like nittos like 315's and skinny tires which are 4 inches wide up front or just get 245 street tires or 275 up front. Shedding weight like bumper supports put battery in the back trunk
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Im still waitin on pics of the car.
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Thanks for all the help. And I'm not that bad of a diver, raced stock cars a lot when I was younger and the last mustang I wrecked was because if driving fast in the rain witch won't happen agian lol
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Here's the pics
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Is the suspension stock?
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Yes, has a kenne brown sup frame.

Would lowering spring and new sway bars help make it handle a little better and make it a little faster?

---------- Post added at 06:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:21 AM ----------

And how much would it cost for a forged bottom end? And forged rods and pistons and how much horse could I push then?
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at 450hp at the motor you are in the area where the tune REALLY matters.... it has to be spot on and you cant just have a mail order tune and be good to go. The tune would also have to be done by someone that knows what they are doing and tune it for daily driving duty. Sure you can get more hp/tq with more timing but why not dial it back a couple and have wiggle room.

Also its ALL about how its taken care of, if you beat on it every day bad things will happen. I think under 400rwhp is ok but might be best to pull some power out of it and keep it a bit richer to stay on the safe side.... rebuilding a motor is not cheap.
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Yes it was professionally tuned and has 49,000 miles
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Be responsible and safe with that amount of HP under your ***. Welcome to the forum.
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good, you happen to have the dynograph along with a/f and the timing used etc?
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Yes get lowering springs and arms as well as tires so you can lower you're 1/4 and 60'
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If the motor is safe where it's at, then invest elsewhere. Relocate the battery, get a chromoly k member and coilovers, subframe connectors and new rear control arms... it's not all about numbers.
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What I could've said already was said above. Welcome and be safe. THINK!
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Yes, has a kenne brown sup frame.

Would lowering spring and new sway bars help make it handle a little better and make it a little faster?

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And how much would it cost for a forged bottom end? And forged rods and pistons and how much horse could I push then?
Sway bars aren't necessary for a drag car. Your best bet would be to find some drag race springs and shocks because they will help keep the weight focused more on the rear to help you get traction out of the hole. Companies like Maximum Motorsports make a great package for drag racing that includes dang near everything you would need in the suspension area.

A forged bottom end would cost as much as you want it to. The easiest way would be to buy a shortblock/longblock from companies like DSS Racing or Modular Mustang Racing. I cant remember what their kits start off at but I believe it's somewhere in the $3K range. They make shortblocks rated to certain power levels. Or you could piece together your own engine if you would rather save a little money by doing it yourself. Those companies also sell forged rotating assemblies. You could also try looking for an 03-04 Cobra bottom end.
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This might be of interest if you are wanting forged internals, otherwise suspension is half the battle. If you don't hook up, power is pointless.
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This might be of interest if you are wanting forged internals, otherwise suspension is half the battle. If you don't hook up, power is pointless.
If you're serious about it though, a forged crank would be even better, the crank in that kit is cast iron I believe, but it really depends on your budget and goals.
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If you're serious about it though, a forged crank would be even better, the crank in that kit is cast iron I believe, but it really depends on your budget and goals.
That's only a 600hp setup, a cast crank will be more than adequate for that kind of power.

And welcome! My best advice to a 16 yr old with that kind of power is park it and get a beater to drive. As much as you don't want to hear it, you're 16 and you're going to wreck (probably more than once) so PLEASE tear up a civic or even a v6 and don't destroy all the money and time already put into that beauty. I'm only speaking from experience. I'm 22 and have a vortech blown GT and almost destroyed my entire investment in a split second because a deer jumped in front of me and I slid over through a ditch. Having to go back and look at all the money wasted, and then having to replace all the components that got messed up was complete torture on me and my wallet. If you keep driving it all the time, my advice is take it easy and learn your car. I know its hard to keep that right foot from hitting the floor, but learning what you car does and reacts like in different situations is key. Don't try to be Superman, Clark Kent is cool enough lol

Ok, I'm done sounding like an old man. That's a sweet car and I look forward to seeing more of it
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Thanks man and I understand completely where your coming from
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That's only a 600hp setup, a cast crank will be more than adequate for that kind of power.

And welcome! My best advice to a 16 yr old with that kind of power is park it and get a beater to drive. As much as you don't want to hear it, you're 16 and you're going to wreck (probably more than once) so PLEASE tear up a civic or even a v6 and don't destroy all the money and time already put into that beauty. I'm only speaking from experience. I'm 22 and have a vortech blown GT and almost destroyed my entire investment in a split second because a deer jumped in front of me and I slid over through a ditch. Having to go back and look at all the money wasted, and then having to replace all the components that got messed up was complete torture on me and my wallet. If you keep driving it all the time, my advice is take it easy and learn your car. I know its hard to keep that right foot from hitting the floor, but learning what you car does and reacts like in different situations is key. Don't try to be Superman, Clark Kent is cool enough lol

Ok, I'm done sounding like an old man. That's a sweet car and I look forward to seeing more of it
Couldn't of said it better myself but I'm with spec on what he asked. Did you get the print out from the dyno on a/f ratio's timing used etc?!
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