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Old 02-06-2013, 06:59 PM   #1
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T444E Powerstroke Mustang Build

Seems smart to me. Improved gas milage and an engine that shares the assembly line with fords aftermarket boss351 block and is forged at 44,000psi. Making it 1100hp/1400lb-tq capable. These powerstrokes are known for having unatural long life at 700,000 miles to an unabused engine in a heavy superduty truck. Both factors for gas milage and longevity making it a brilliant canditate for a swap.

Many have already swaped the 460 in a stang and if the old superdutys share 460 and powerstroke power why not put a T444E in a stang? Such a swap raises alot of questions so bear with me please.

Height. The powerstroke 7.3 is 36.6 inchs tall to the 32 inch tall 460. This raises the question of "pinto kmember swaps" that lower the craddle by 1.5 inchs, as well as using 1.5 inch k member spacers. And a giant undetermined size hood takes care of the engine height. No problem.

Width. I know some 460 guys depending on what parts they use need to do a manual brake booster conversion. I consider this a requirement for this swap because I know the powerstroke is wider. But is that enough? Would I have to relocate the brake booser? Is that even possible? Also would I have to cut out the wheel wells for engine clearance? I really dont want to as this build is entended to be a daily driver. But even if I have to go custom the obsticles can be overcome. No problem.

Depth. Ill cut out the fire wall if I have to. No problem.

Mounting. Does anyone know if T444E engine and 460 engine mounts in the superduty are the same? If not custom mounts can be made. No problem.

Trans? The C-6 with a diesel housing of coarse but does anyone know of a aftermarket performance trans shop that can build me a 1200hp capable C-6 with a diesel housing? Also does the C-6 Diesel caseing bolt pattern fit the newer T444E engine?

Crossmember is a sinch I plan to use an aftermarket cross member for a C-6 swap. Not worried about size of tranny. I can beat out some room for the tranny linkage with a hammer. No problem.

Computer. One for a manual trans. C-6 is preasure shifted. No problem.

Intercooler? Anyone got sugestions? Im thinking procharger with custom piping?

Driveshaft. Custom obviously but from who?

Rearend. 9 Inch to help balance the engine weight. Also car will be convertable to help as well. Strange has a bolt in 9 inch coversion. No problem.

Suspension. Planed on factory 03 cobra coupe front springs to handle the weight with stock rear springs. Is this a problem?

Jump right in guys n gals. With a few answered questions and a little more cofidence I plan to start this build.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:23 PM   #2
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Very interested on how this comes together
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:32 PM   #3
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It should be quiet an impresive car. Unique, ecinomical and intimidating all at the same time. No one expects to pull up to a mustang and it have a diesel thump.
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Well when you need engine parts you can come to me. Work for international truck... The folks who built that engine for ford.
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Sounds good to me. They make a giant powered by international windsheild banner for my stang? j/k
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Interesting... Very... Not a bad idea. Could see this in a fox
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I've been wanting to do this forever but from what I've read unless u have a big bank roll its gonna be a nightmare don't get me wrong I've been dreaming about this for a long long time after I seen a 69 Chevelle at a car show with a turbo duramax in it pushing like 900 hp and 1200 tq and it rolled black smoke l was in love untill he told me he had almost 20k just in putting the motor in and fuel system and only minor mods to the motot

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I've been wanting to do this forever but from what I've read unless u have a big bank roll its gonna be a nightmare don't get me wrong I've been dreaming about this for a long long time after I seen a 69 Chevelle at a car show with a turbo duramax in it pushing like 900 hp and 1200 tq and it rolled black smoke l was in love untill he told me he had almost 20k just in putting the motor in and fuel system and only minor mods to the motot
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Love the 7.3. Ad they are some tough durable engines that can last forever. But as for performance its ganna cost a crapload to get gains in hp and torque. Tbh, if performance is what you want, id go with a 12 valve cummins. Plus there pretty durable too
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Yeah I know the cummins in a sn95 has been done but never a powerstroke ive seen. Kinda adds to the wow factor and rarety of the swap. I would never consider a fox for this swap with the engine weight fully dressed being a whooping 900lbs, Id never get traction.. lol. Not so worried about future mods to the engine a good air filter and a good aftermarket tune will most likely be as far as I take it for a while. I wana see 35 plus MPG and have the engine last 500k minimum to give me return on my investment. Also im calculating no where near 20 grand for this entire swap due to im doing the work myself and trying to stay away from custom parts as much as possible. Even still if I did run out of funds I have no problem with putting it on hold for as long as it takes.
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God im so excited I cant sleep. I'm going to look at a 2000 v6 stang black with black top and grey cloth tomarrow. It supposedly has a blown head gasket and is for sale for 1500. Score.
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Yeah I know the cummins in a sn95 has been done but never a powerstroke ive seen. Kinda adds to the wow factor and rarety of the swap. I would never consider a fox for this swap with the engine weight fully dressed being a whooping 900lbs, Id never get traction.. lol. Not so worried about future mods to the engine a good air filter and a good aftermarket tune will most likely be as far as I take it for a while. I wana see 35 plus MPG and have the engine last 500k minimum to give me return on my investment. Also im calculating no where near 20 grand for this entire swap due to im doing the work myself and trying to stay away from custom parts as much as possible. Even still if I did run out of funds I have no problem with putting it on hold for as long as it takes.
Yeah true. The 444 is certainly capable of massive torque, the trick is getting hp out of it. The good thing would be like you said you never see anyways with it. If you wanted to stick to a ford diesel, you could do a 6.0. You actually might find a 6.0 for cheaper than some 7.3s. 6.0s get ragged on, but theyre easy to get power out of
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6.0 was an option I looked at but fully dressed its weight was 1100lbs. An 03 cobra engine is about 720lbs fully dressed the 7.3 at 900lbs is a smaller jump away. Also ford put independent rear suspension in the 03 cobra to help ballance the weight. My plan on the cheap is just to use a convertable car with a 9 inch rear in the future. Jumping to 1100lbs throws my plan off balance. Not to mention the 7.3 is known to be more durable giving me more for my return. Futhermore I understand the 7.3's are getting better gas milage than the 6.0's.
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Ntbruncie. I have a question I need answered that I feel is right up your alley. Anyone could answer but Im curious if the T444E PowerStroke engine and the Diesel 7.3 IDI infact use the same block and transmission pattern? If so this would mean I can use the C-6 like I planned. If not I can use a different trans but will mean Ill have to get a custom bell housing adapter which means more money. Thanks for any help you can offer.
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6.0 was an option I looked at but fully dressed its weight was 1100lbs. An 03 cobra engine is about 720lbs fully dressed the 7.3 at 900lbs is a smaller jump away. Also ford put independent rear suspension in the 03 cobra to help ballance the weight. My plan on the cheap is just to use a convertable car with a 9 inch rear in the future. Jumping to 1100lbs throws my plan off balance. Not to mention the 7.3 is known to be more durable giving me more for my return. Futhermore I understand the 7.3's are getting better gas milage than the 6.0's.
Oh wow i didnt know the 6.0 weighed more
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I did find a resource that said the 6.0 was only 966lbs but that I imagine that is without engine accessories and probly dry. Either way from what information I can find the 6.0 is heavier. I imagine this is due to the added emisions equipment.
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I would like to see how this comes together. I have a 6.0 dd and i wish i woulda went with the 7.3. But the 6.0 does have a few down falls to it but overall its a good motor. To me the 6.0 is a lil bit more peppier than the 7.3. Head studs and egr cooler delete will solve 90% of the problems. But in the end it all comes down to what you want. Good luck
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I would like to see how this comes together. I have a 6.0 dd and i wish i woulda went with the 7.3. But the 6.0 does have a few down falls to it but overall its a good motor. To me the 6.0 is a lil bit more peppier than the 7.3. Head studs and egr cooler delete will solve 90% of the problems. But in the end it all comes down to what you want. Good luck
From what ive heard head studs and egr delete make it as reliable as a 7.3. And ive only driven 1 6.0 but it definitely has more power than the 7.3
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The good thing about the egr cooler is you can cut both ends of and the insides will fall right out and seal off the egr scoop off and you have yourself a egr delete for less than $20. And studs are only $400+/-
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The good thing about the egr cooler is you can cut both ends of and the insides will fall right out and seal off the egr scoop off and you have yourself a egr delete for less than $20. And studs are only $400+/-
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I may have to use a 6.0 or another engine. The fact that the 7.3 has no emissions control equipment was why production was stoped and before the S197 platform came out, making a 7.3 in a S197 not street leagle in the state of texas where I live to my best understanding. The good news is International makes many different diesel engine I could swap. There is even the new 6.7 that comes with a pavement pounding 800ft-tq and 400hp. As well using a newer engine with emissions control equipment would mean I could use the S197 platform with a larger engine area making my ford diesel powered mustang swap easier. Unfortunatly I fear that if the 7.3 wont fit in a SN95/FOX4 platform I wont have the money to buy the newer bodied car, newer engine and the custom parts the swap will require. But where theres a will theres a way so I most likely will go through with the swap after saving more money and finding the easiest way to put any powerstroke in any mustang platform.
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Well when you need engine parts you can come to me. Work for international truck... The folks who built that engine for ford.
Would you be able to get parts for a 6.9 IDI? I'm thinking about doing a swap in a mustang for the 6.9 and some parts for a truck
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so ready for this build been invisioning this in my head forever but with a cummins
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Um good luck getting answers guys, this thread hasn't been active since February last year and the member hasn't been active since June last year
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I'm still around. And yes I can get parts for the 6.9L
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