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Old 02-11-2013, 12:03 AM   #1
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I need a good seat of short headers for a 96 gt I have a X pipe with no cats but the cheapest I can fine is 309.99 by bbk so any help??
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I realise this is not an answer to your question, but I have to say it--don't waste money on shorty headers. They will add no power and are incapable of doing so because the tubes are too short, on many the tubes are not even equal length...
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+1 dont buy shorties. I bought my pacestter lt's and o/r x from summit racing for $400ish. I have a 4v so yours would be cheaper
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I realise this is not an answer to your question, but I have to say it--don't waste money on shorty headers. They will add no power and are incapable of doing so because the tubes are too short, on many the tubes are not even equal length...
+1 .......stock manifolds basically are shorties
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You guys are crazy. Stock manifolds are no where near shorties!! I personally own LTs but shorties are a very nice upgrade over stock. Just be sure to get a set that are equal length shorties. You will see a nice pick up through the mid range
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That is a massive difference!
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That is a massive difference!
You're right, they do LOOK different--now show me the back-top-back dyno runs, with all other components exactly the same (not some cooked up magazine review), that prove some difference in performance.

The tubes, even if equal length, are too short to do anything for the mid-range. Here is a good Headers 101 white paper...
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:31 PM   #9
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Funny how that is manifold from 1975... Here is a 1991 factory manifold


http://cdn1.autopartsnetwork.com/ima...74-191-007.jpg

Looks like a shorty header to me
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They did that with the stock manifold the early Miatas too, made it look like a "tuned" header:



Here is what the 4.6L 2V manifolds look like:

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Lol my pic form "1975" looks better than yours off the 2v. Thanks for making my point even clearer.
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Again with the "looks" better. Is your degree in automotive, mechanical or fluid engineering?

Without doing flow tests on both it is impossible to know which flows better. Also with the availability of CAD and computer modeling, and improved manufacturing methods there are any number of automotive components that are different that in '75 or even 1990, and better.

This is especially true of intake and exhaust components because manufacturers have had to make engines more efficient to meet fuel economy standards...
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I would never get in a argument with cliffy. Dang genius. Just get Mac LTs they are 399
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I would never get in a argument with cliffy. Dang genius. Just get Mac LTs they are 399
^+1, if you are going through the process of installing headers, get LTs...
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^+1, if you are going through the process of installing headers, get LTs...
I agree completely. Hence the reason I have LTs. But there are alot of people out there that bought shorties and love them. They can be a nice choice for someone where LTs just aren't an option
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I agree with that too but if you're gonna spend 300 buck on shorties why not spend 100 more and get long tubes.
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Alot more that price goes into it. Local road conditions, future plans for the car (ie. turbo), how low your car sits, etc all play into choosing an exhaust setup. And in this economy, $100 can mean ALOT to some people
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