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Old 02-20-2013, 05:18 PM   #1
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Pypes off road shortie hpipe shouldn't need anything to bolt up to SLP LT headers right? It should just fit correct?
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No. Shortie mid pipes are designed to bolt up to shortie headers not long tube headers. Whats more usually long tube headers require the same brand long tube header mid pipe to bolt on without modification.
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Aren't short midpipes designed for longtubes
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No. Shortie mid pipes are designed to bolt up to shortie headers not long tube headers. Whats more usually long tube headers require the same brand long tube header mid pipe to bolt on without modification.
NOPE, shorty mid pipes are for long tube headers, while full length mid pipes are for shorty headers.

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Aren't short midpipes designed for longtubes
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You guys cant be serious right now.. Yes short midpipes are for long tube headers. Shortie mid pipes are longer and for shortie headers. He said he had a hpipe for a shortie which is a long mid pipe and the answer is still the same, no shortie midpipes will not bolt onto long tube headers without being modified, end of story.
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You guys cant be serious right now.. Yes short midpipes are for long tube headers. Shortie mid pipes are longer and for shortie headers. He said he had a hpipe for a shortie which is a long mid pipe and the answer is still the same, no shortie midpipes will not bolt onto long tube headers without being modified, end of story.
I think the miscommunication is in the wording. A shorter mid pipe is what will bolt up to longtubes
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I think the miscommunication is in the wording. A shorter mid pipe is what will bolt up to longtubes
Exactly correct. But a "shortie" mid pipe indicates that mid pipe is used for "shortie" headers and is a longer pipe.
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Seriously, a 'shortie' pipe refers to the length of the mid pipe itself, not the header. Bottom line.
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I disagree.. Exhuast manufactures laber their exhuast as per use with short tube headers or for long tube headers. This in my veiw means a "shortie" mid pipe is for use with short tube headers.
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I disagree.. Exhuast manufactures laber their exhuast as per use with short tube headers or for long tube headers. This in my veiw means a "shortie" mid pipe is for use with short tube headers.
Please post a link to a 'shortie H-Pipe' that mates to shortie headers, please.
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Furthermore. If his pypes mid pipe is indeed intended for use with LT header it still will most likely not fit without modification to SLP long tubes. Different exhuast manufactures of LT headers have different length. This is unlike aftermarket midpipes for shorttubes that are all designed to bolt onto the same stock exhuast manifold.
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I've always heard LT midpipes to be called shorty midpipes and I used to be on a Mustang Exhaust forum for years. And yes, they will bolt right up if you already have the LT's. If not, you will need to get o2 sensor extensions I think or MIL's since they usually have 4 o2's from the factory.
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Ok ill prove my point.

Mid-Pipes (H-Pipes/Pro Chambers)

Notice MAC refers to its midpipes as for use with longtube headers or for use with stock manifolds.

Show me one manfucature that refers to its mid pipes for use with long tube headers a shortie mid pipe..
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Furthermore. If his pypes mid pipe is indeed intended for use with LT header it still will most likely not fit without modification to SLP long tubes. Different exhuast manufactures of LT headers have different length. This is unlike aftermarket midpipes for shorttubes that are all designed to bolt onto the same stock exhuast manifold.
I think they would bolt up fine to any LT's. I know people that have AR LT's and BBK midpipes as an example. I would just normally buy a matching set so you know it will fit like a glove without any headaches.

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Mac is the only manufacturer that uses the same midpipe for LT's as shorties. I have had several MAC midpipes and the only difference between the shorty midpipe and the regular midpipe was that the regular one came with "flow tubes" that went from the midpipe to the shorty headers. The LT's took place of those "flow tubes" on the shorty midpipe.
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Ok ill prove my point.

Mid-Pipes (H-Pipes/Pro Chambers)

Notice MAC refers to its midpipes as for use with longtube headers or for use with stock manifolds.

Show me one manfucature that refers to its mid pipes for use with long tube headers a shortie mid pipe..
Wait, what.. don't see anything relevant here at all..

Anyways, OP, I believe you have the info you need! Hope all this... Doesn't confuse ya
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/mac-sh...er-0509gt.html

Shorty midpipe that is for LT's only.
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I know that they are the same except for the flow tubes but they sell their equipment based on wether you need those flow tube by wether or not your using long or short tube headers.
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Americanmuscle advertises them as 'Shorty pipes'


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MAC Ford Mustang GT 4.6L 2Valve & Cobra 4.6L 4Valve Off Road H-Pipe for MAC Long Tube Headers TF9699 Off-Raod H-Pipe for MAC Long Tube Headers Part #'s TF9603 or TF9625 (GT) & Part #'s TF9902 or TF9900 (Cobra). Our Off Road H-Pipe will...


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AS PER USE WITH STOCK MANIFOLDS. WHICH WE KNOW CAN BE REPLACED WITH SHORTYS.

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Wow American Muscle even has it *** backwards. And I say that because Ive been in the mustang scene even longer than american muscle.. lol

Eitherway they are still wrong. Just like how aftermarket companies who refer to ford 302's as being small blocks. Smallblock/Bigblock is chevy terms Ford has Familys FE/Windor/Modular ETC.

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Plus American Muscle is a distributor not a manufactuer.

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And yes you dont have to use one companys mid pipe just because your using their headers all im saying is dont expect to bolt on a different brand exhuast pipe to your long tube headers and expect it to fit without modification because it wont.
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Americanmuscle advertises them as 'Shorty pipes'

http://www.americanmuscle.com/9904-mustang-hpipe.html

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Ok well you guys can call it what you want but I'm still going to go by what the manfactuers say as they are the ones that make it..
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Thanks for the info. I didn't mean to start WWIII lol
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Thanks for the info. I didn't mean to start WWIII lol
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Bahahahahaha. It gets serious sometimes. It's just passionate people that are passionate about their cars and knowledge. Good thing is tomorrow, they will be able to agree passionate about something.
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I agree to disagree about everything until I agree to it. lol!
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Wow this got out of hand quick.
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Musta been a full moon yesterday. There were a couple other threads that got heated. Really heated.
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