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Old 02-20-2013, 10:32 PM   #1
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So me and my buddy (who's been doing auto body 10+ years) Are getting ready to do my whole car. I've heard about using no primer. What do you guys think. He says it not necessary and it only matters about the surface you putting the paint on.
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Oh lord! If you have only prepped your old paint to reshoot, there are necessary things. I would never ever ever put all that money in paint and not prime the car. It will have a reaction to what is there and not stay but for a short period of time. In most cases, you want a sealer, a primer, paint and clear. If you use ppg paints, they sell K-36 which is a high build sealer and primer in one. If you want to go cheap, you can us an enamel paint (has clear mixed in can be wet sounded and buffed to a great shine). Ppg's DAR 9000 black is the cheapest paint they sell because it is premixed and is an enamel. Just be careful man, do your homework. Primer does more than just cover metal. It is a bonding agent.

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Old 02-20-2013, 10:47 PM   #3
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Oh lord! If you have only prepped your old paint to reshoot, there are necessary things. I would never ever ever put all that money in paint and not prime the car. It will have a reaction to what is there and not stay but for a short period of time. In most cases, you want a sealer, a primer, paint and clear. If you use ppg paints, they sell K-36 which is a high build sealer and primer in one. If you want to go cheap, you can us an enamel paint (has clear mixed in can be wet sounded and buffed to a great shine). Ppg's DAR 9000 black is the cheapest paint they sell because it is premixed and is an enamel. Just be careful man, do your homework. Primer does more than just cover metal. It is a bonding agent.

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His company has a contract with a specific name brand paint which I guess "doesn't" require it. They hardly ever use it unless customer requested and they do a ish ton of restoration and there one of the most reputable shops around here. But like I said, I have no clue what I'm doing when it comes to body work. Looking for advice
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Ask him what brand it is. You deserve to know. Ive done a whooooole lot of painting in the last 14 years and have never heard of a system that says you don't have to use primer. I say that but I've only ever used ppg paints. DAR and DBU's. like I say, I could be wrong. Just call them and ask what brand it is and google and see. Never heard that. Good luck.
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Ask him what brand it is. You deserve to know. Ive done a whooooole lot of painting in the last 14 years and have never heard of a system that says you don't have to use primer. I say that but I've only ever used ppg paints. DAR and DBU's. like I say, I could be wrong. Just call them and ask what brand it is and google and see. Never heard that. Good luck.
Will do! Thanks for the input, greatly appreciated! I'll figure it out and post it.
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Let us know. There may be somebody on here who has heard of that. I hope they'd holler at you to tell you different. Good luck. Keep us posted.
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Confused, doesnt the old paint act as primer as the chemical bond between the paint and metal has already occured? New paint, will it not adhere through scuffing the old clear after proper cleaning and prep?
Never heard of anyone stripping a car to bare metal for new paint, or putting primer over an already primered and painted surface.
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Different brands of paints do not get along too well. I sure wouldn't strip it off to the metal but I sure wouldn't just apply color over what's there, scuffed or not. If that's what you guys do, that's fine by me, I just have never ever heard of a paint job that lasts for a long time bein done that way. Like I said, there may be guys who know more than me.
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Different brands of paints do not get along too well. I sure wouldn't strip it off to the metal but I sure wouldn't just apply color over what's there, scuffed or not. If that's what you guys do, that's fine by me, I just have never ever heard of a paint job that lasts for a long time bein done that way. Like I said, there may be guys who know more than me.
So I found out some more info! As you guys were interested to know! Basically, we are priming! Only certain spots. It does not require a full body primer. We are using a sealer before paint that creates a bond with the metal and paint. It can only be used on metal though. So the plastic or spots where I will be repair will need to be primed!
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