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Old 02-27-2013, 06:05 PM   #1
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K&N drop in thoughts?

Looking maybe to just pick up a K&N drop in for my 01 GT until I can afford a good CAI.. Before you comment here's the situation.

It has magnaflow exhaust no cats. But still stock air intake.. Can't afford a decent CAI just yet but I can tell she's sucking hard. Drop in is 60$.. Should I get it for now
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Looking maybe to just pick up a K&N drop in for my 01 GT until I can afford a good CAI.. Before you comment here's the situation.

It has magnaflow exhaust no cats. But still stock air intake.. Can't afford a decent CAI just yet but I can tell she's sucking hard. Drop in is 60$.. Should I get it for now
The intakes are preference IMO. The filter is what makes the difference.
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Looking maybe to just pick up a K&N drop in for my 01 GT until I can afford a good CAI.. Before you comment here's the situation.

It has magnaflow exhaust no cats. But still stock air intake.. Can't afford a decent CAI just yet but I can tell she's sucking hard. Drop in is 60$.. Should I get it for now
Don't wast money on just a drop in filter. Save your cash for a whole CAI. Drop in filters, even K&N won't give you any gains over stock. Get a tuner also when you got the cash (if you don't already have one).
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Don't wast money on just a drop in filter. Save your cash for a whole CAI. Drop in filters, even K&N won't give you any gains over stock. Get a tuner also when you got the cash (if you don't already have one).
I plan to do that when I have the $ but my car is sucking hard..
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Don't wast money on just a drop in filter. Save your cash for a whole CAI. Drop in filters, even K&N won't give you any gains over stock. Get a tuner also when you got the cash (if you don't already have one).
Oh ish, just re-read this now.
+1 wait to get the whole CAI
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No need for a cai..they are money pits. Just buy a drop in and pull the silencer off the air box. In my GT i had both a bbk cai and k&n drop in at one point and there was NO difference
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Going to disagree, the CAI piping is larger and smooth on the inside. Logic dictates its better then the stock rubber tubing. More air=more power.
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Ill disagree with your disagree..on an n/a car it doesnt amount to jack. Ive run a pricey cai and drop in...no difference in mpg, track times, acceleration...if your blown by all means go for it, but for his car it wont matter imo...now if you can show me dyno proof of a drop in vs cai id love to look it over
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Ill disagree with your disagree..on an n/a car it doesnt amount to jack. Ive run a pricey cai and drop in...no difference in mpg, track times, acceleration...if your blown by all means go for it, but for his car it wont matter imo...now if you can show me dyno proof of a drop in vs cai id love to look it over
I'd love to see Dyno proof to the contrary..

Even better, we could ask AM to chime in here with some answers. Being they tune for a living.
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Going to disagree, the CAI piping is larger and smooth on the inside. Logic dictates its better then the stock rubber tubing. More air=more power.
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I'd love to see Dyno proof to the contrary..

Even better, we could ask AM to chime in here with some answers. Being they tune for a living.
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Feel free to pm an AM rep. As you know we have close ties with them so they are very open to questions from the site
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In the end you asked OP if its worth it...the answer is yes. Whether you decide to buy one or not thats up to you. I reccomend just buying the spectre drop in advance sells. Its half the price and is an oiled high flow filter.
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In the end you asked OP if its worth it...the answer is yes. Whether you decide to buy one or not thats up to you. I reccomend just buying the spectre drop in advance sells. Its half the price and is an oiled high flow filter.
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I pick up a K&N drop in from advanced I had a 20$ off 60$ coupon so it was 40$ the spectra was 38 sooooo.. Yeah lol
At some point in time I will pick up a CAI probably more for looks then anything.
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CAI help throttle response helping low to mid range torque improvements. To say a CAI doesn't do anything is by a far a false statement considering it is 90% of people's first mod then exhaust. Your results aren't going to be 10 horsepower but you will get some. More air = better combustion. To the OP do a tune up if your car hasn't had one recently that you know of. Do a full fluid flush and your car will love you. Pressure feed the coolant system to clean it out
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I pick up a K&N drop in from advanced I had a 20$ off 60$ coupon so it was 40$ the spectra was 38 sooooo.. Yeah lol
At some point in time I will pick up a CAI probably more for looks then anything.
That's the best way to think about it. Did you remove the silencer from the air box?
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@dead...i will say that i think some of our disagreement comes from the fact you deal with a pushrod motor vs a modular motor. On a pushrod 5.0 a cai and really change it up ill agree. However on a modular 4.6 it doesnt do much. The only real gain is a tune with it
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That's the best way to think about it. Did you remove the silencer from the air box?
Haven't had time to put it in but I will!
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The bigger the Intake tube doesn't mean the better , actually worse.

creates a bottle neck affect,

The smaller or closer to stock tubing the better

Now if your supercharged or turbo charged.. It's the opposite . - Dyno Shop
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The bigger the Intake tube doesn't mean the better , actually worse.

creates a bottle neck affect,

The smaller or closer to stock tubing the better

Now if your supercharged or turbo charged.. It's the opposite . - Dyno Shop
I may be a little off but from filter to exhaust you want to start big, funnel down to intake, then start small and widen to exhaust tips correct?
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Remove your Intake Inlet tube silencer

If you WANT crack open that circle case I mean break it in half.. ( leave bottom to protect against water on road .. If it happens to splash upwards , that bottom piece will avoid water getting in your filter )
And attach a k&n filter to your intake tube by using a big hose clamp

And wa la .. Cheap open intake for the mean time .. ( same crap as a cold air intake )

Same thing I have and works fine.. You can even remove headlamp at the track if you want it to be somewhat functional ..

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I'd stay away from oiled air filters. I dropped a K&N into my '11 F150 and a week later I got a check engine light. I took it in to the dealer and they said my MAF sensor took a ****. They changed it out, (thank god for warranty) three weeks later, another check engine light with the same problem. I switched back to a fram paper filter and its been about two weeks and so far do good.
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can't say i've ever had that issue with any of the oiled filters i've had....does the f150 use the same style maf?
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can't say i've ever had that issue with any of the oiled filters i've had....does the f150 use the same style maf?
Yes. It's about 4 inches away from the filter box.
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Maf screen?
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can't say i've ever had that issue with any of the oiled filters i've had....does the f150 use the same style maf?
+1 I never had that issue must be with the new vehicles but I always clean my MAF sensor after so long when I oil up my filter
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+1 I never had that issue must be with the new vehicles but I always clean my MAF sensor after so long when I oil up my filter
+1 going to have to agree. I've always had a aftermarket CAI on both my stangs. Never did I have MAF go bad?
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Well, I'm just sharing my experience with it. I've used K&N air filters in other vehicles but those had map sensors which wouldn't get effected by an over oiled air filter.

I'd just hate to see someone go through the same problem and not have it covered under warranty. I was lucky.

Even my Steeda CAI on my mustang has a non oiled air filter.
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Remove your Intake Inlet tube silencer

If you WANT crack open that circle case I mean break it in half.. ( leave bottom to protect against water on road .. If it happens to splash upwards , that bottom piece will avoid water getting in your filter )
And attach a k&n filter to your intake tube by using a big hose clamp

And wa la .. Cheap open intake for the mean time .. ( same crap as a cold air intake )

Same thing I have and works fine.. You can even remove headlamp at the track if you want it to be somewhat functional ..
I picked up the K&N yesterday got it for 40$ because I had a 20$ off 60 at advance. I'll use this till I get ether the airaid or K&N CAI.
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Well, I'm just sharing my experience with it. I've used K&N air filters in other vehicles but those had map sensors which wouldn't get effected by an over oiled air filter.

I'd just hate to see someone go through the same problem and not have it covered under warranty. I was lucky.

Even my Steeda CAI on my mustang has a non oiled air filter.
Appreciate the input, didn't mean to sound like a jerk and down grade your post (if I did)

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I picked up the K&N yesterday got it for 40$ because I had a 20$ off 60 at advance. I'll use this till I get ether the airaid or K&N CAI.
It's probably better than nothing so share your experience!
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Appreciate the input, didn't mean to sound like a jerk and down grade your post (if I did)
No worries. I didn't take it any other way then you expressing your experience with it as well.
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So I like it.. It got ride of the drop in rpms at a stoplight more fluent air flow I can tell. No gains for say but better breathing!!
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No offence to AM but there "tests" are junk sence they always pair the CAI with a 93 tune... I agree the stock intake with a K&N is fine as long as all the junk is off it. I went from a K&N filter to the AM cai and felt nothing at all. It did make the noise from the engine bay louader at WOT. Im still using the AM CAI right now cause im too lazy to put the other back in..
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No offence to AM but there "tests" are junk sence they always pair the CAI with a 93 tune... I agree the stock intake with a K&N is fine as long as all the junk is off it. I went from a K&N filter to the AM cai and felt nothing at all. It did make the noise from the engine bay louader at WOT. Im still using the AM CAI right now cause im too lazy to put the other back in..
I'm not positive about AM's tests but your right! A CAI isn't going to make you sit back in your seat like nitrous but it allows your car to breath a lot better. It's not a major hp gain. It allows for better throttle response and low to mid range torque.
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