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Old 03-12-2013, 04:48 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I was just throwing some ideas around and I am thinking of doing this in my 02 gt

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In theory, if I got it wired right I would put the key in the ignition and turn it to Acc. Then I would flip up the toggle to supply power to the button, then push the button to start the engine... Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure there is a simpler way to do it. But I don't want to get rid of the passive theft system (hence the key)

Next I need a place to mount it... I was thinking of doing this..


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I would shape the switch plate to fit in the pod instead of the gauges
(If anyone has better placement please speak up.)

I really want that racecar style push button. And I love how it says "for racing use only"

Any help on how to wire would be appreciated. I'm sure someone on here has done a push button start on a new edge.
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I remember a guy on TMS rewired his Cobra for a push button start because he broke his ignition switch. I'll have to search for his thread again. He made it work using the cruise control buttons.
http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...-start-516647/
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I remember a guy on TMS rewired his Cobra for a push button start because he broke his ignition switch. I'll have to search for his thread again. He made it work using the cruise control buttons.
http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...-start-516647/
That's awesome. Maybe I could wire one of the extra Acc switches on the panel to turn on the accessories instead of having to turn the key.. Then all I would have to do is put the key in the ignition
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Look on you tube. Theres a guy that wired it up to his cruise control in a new edge.. it was pretty cool
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Here's a BRB (Big Red Button) mod circuit diagram I created for friend a while back.



We used a Honda 2000 starter button:

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In that diagram. It mentions how Acc1 and Acc2 are turned off while cranking the engine. Could I attach those to the 2 Acc switches in the panel so I could turn them on and off manually. Or would that create problems?
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In that diagram. It mentions how Acc1 and Acc2 are turned off while cranking the engine. Could I attach those to the 2 Acc switches in the panel so I could turn them on and off manually. Or would that create problems?
You could, the supported systems would of course be dead until the switches were closed. Another method would be to add two more single pole relays, or a single double pole device...
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You could, the supported systems would of course be dead until the switches were closed. Another method would be to add two more single pole relays, or a single double pole device...
Thanks for the diagram. Sadly it is gibberish to me. The most I've done with wiring is my LED lights in my car
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I have thought and thought about this idea. Subsribed. I have a link on my laptop to a write up on another site.
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subscribed, been wanting this since day 1
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I have thought and thought about this idea. Subsribed. I have a link on my laptop to a write up on another site.
Could you posts he link to the write up?
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This is the one I found a while ago.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...on-system.html

It's a long write up, and a lot of work.
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Here is the circuit we decided not to use, it requires three relays however it does duplicate the stock ignition switch's behaviour as to shutting down all accessories while cranking the engine...

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Ok guys time to revive an old thread...

I just picked up a push button start with toggle switch and I'm planing on wiring it sometime today or tomorrow. I'm planing on putting the key in and turning it to on and then flip the switch and press the button.
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I don't know if you can see this pic but it looks like to wire it it's just a power source in and a wire out to the ignition switch, and everything else is just connected. If so what is the best wire to splice into to provide power for the switch, and what wire do I splice into for the starter?

(I want to splice into the starter instead of cut it so that I can use a key or the push to start. Please correct me if it's a bad idea)
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Ok guys time to revive an old thread...

I just picked up a push button start with toggle switch and I'm planing on wiring it sometime today or tomorrow. I'm planing on putting the key in and turning it to on and then flip the switch and press the button.
That is nice looking! I don't mean to hijack your thread but where did you buy that push to start assembly!? I'm in love with it
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That is nice looking! I don't mean to hijack your thread but where did you buy that push to start assembly!? I'm in love with it
Hahaha no problem. I Got it at pepboys
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No one knows what color wires I should use for this setup??
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Ok guys, I decided to go and wire up the panel.

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The long white wire is the ground and the two long yellows are the "start in" and "start out" (according to the diagram on the panel)

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So I think "start in" (middle right) would be spliced into one of the wires that run an acc that is constant and "start out" (bottom left) would be spliced to the ignition wire.

Cliffyk I could use some guidance here lol
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Ok guys, I decided to go and wire up the panel.

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The long white wire is the ground and the two long yellows are the "start in" and "start out" (according to the diagram on the panel)

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So I think "start in" (middle right) would be spliced into one of the wires that run an acc that is constant and "start out" (bottom left) would be spliced to the ignition wire.

Cliffyk I could use some guidance here lol
Without knowing the internal specifics of the two switches it is difficult to be certain of what is going on. What happens when you connect the ground and a the "start in" wire to a 12V battery, then throw the toggle switch?

It appears that when this is done both the indicator lamp and the start button should light up--I cannot think of any other reason for the push button to have a ground connection.

Also, with the battery connected and the toggle switch on pressing the start button should pass +12V to its #1 terminal; if it does then you should connect the "start in" wire to the gray/yellow wire at the ignition switch, and the "start out" wire to the white/pink wire (also at the ignition switch).

Connected in this manner you would start the car by turning the key to the run position, throwing the toggle switch ON and then pressing the start button. Once the engine is running the toggle switch could then be turned OFF to prevent an accidental pressing of the button from engaging the starter.

One other comment, the wire you use needs to be at least 14 ga, as is the stock wiring for the starter circuit...
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Without knowing the internal specifics of the two switches it is difficult to be certain of what is going on. What happens when you connect the ground and a the "start in" wire to a 12V battery, then throw the toggle switch?

It appears that when this is done both the indicator lamp and the start button should light up--I cannot think of any other reason for the push button to have a ground connection.

Also, with the battery connected and the toggle switch on pressing the start button should pass +12V to its #1 terminal; if it does then you should connect the "start in" wire to the gray/yellow wire at the ignition switch, and the "start out" wire to the white/pink wire (also at the ignition switch).

Connected in this manner you would start the car by turning the key to the run position, throwing the toggle switch ON and then pressing the start button. Once the engine is running the toggle switch could then be turned OFF to prevent an accidental pressing of the button from engaging the starter.

One other comment, the wire you use needs to be at least 14 ga, as is the stock wiring for the starter circuit...
Ok I just attached the panel to the battery like you said and it worked! So next I have to hook it to the gray/yellow and white/pink wires. How do I get to those? And what problems would I run into using 16ga instead of 14ga
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You need to remove the "clamshell" steering column cover to access the ignition switch connector--this is the cover, there are two screws accessible from underneath IIRC:



The connector looks like this:



Re: wire size; the risk is fire started by an overloaded wire. 16 ga would probably be OK, however I would not use it--Ford did not choose to use 14 ga just to spend extra money on wiring every Mustang they made from '96 to '04...
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Post a pic when you're finished! I want to see where you mounted it.
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Sorry I didn't post earlier. I got it all wired in (thanks to cliffyk) and it works like a charm. It is completely useless lol but it ads a cool factor and everyone loves it. I promise to post pictures tomorrow morning
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Seems like something a ricer would do but as long as you like it. My opinion does not matter.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:31 PM   #26
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Ok guys I finally got a chance to take some quick pics
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AM has a new push start for New Edge and its like $89 right now but its simple and only has one cable which seem like they just splice into somewhere. Looks complete all you have to do is close the splicers onto certain 2 wires and your good. This way seems better though the switch and button look cool
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Can you post a link? I can't seem to find it on their site
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A word of caution; any BRB (Big Red Button), that does not switch off the three auxiliary circuits switched by the stock ignition switch, subjects the components switched by those circuits to voltage drops and EMF spikes generated by the starter solenoid and motor.

Ford did not design the ignition switch and wiring the way they did just to make it cost more...
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