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Old 05-17-2013, 09:28 PM   #1
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What next?

I need insight on what I should do next as a mod, i have everything that is listed on CliffyK's beginners mod list, I have a CAI, TB/plenum, 3.73 gears, SCT Bama tuner, O/R pro chamber and cat back exhaust. I don't know what I should do next. My car is a daily driver and I can't afford to build for FI so that's out of the equation. Any ideas???
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Start on suspension if you haven't already. Lca,uca,springs or coilovers etc..
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Start on suspension if you haven't already. Lca,uca,springs or coilovers etc..
I was thinking about suspension but I need a kit that doesn't lower my ride too much due to road quality and my driveway is raised. I was looking into the eibach pro system plus
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You can supercharge the stock motor just fine, just have to make sure the tune is good and keep the power level around 400-425 to the wheels. Suspension gets pricey too btw, gotta pay to play.

Easy answer, I don't see subframes on your list. If you don't have them, GET SUBFRAMES.
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You can supercharge the stock motor just fine, just have to make sure the tune is good and keep the power level around 400-425 to the wheels. Suspension gets pricey too btw, gotta pay to play.

Easy answer, I don't see subframes on your list. If you don't have them, GET SUBFRAMES.
I guess I could supercharge I'm just worried about the stock engine, but I would keep it at 375-400 max and if it blew it'd give me a reason to build. Yes subframes are on my list to do next as well as a shift kit
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You're automatic? Cool, better for straight line power anyway than a stick especially if you are lucky enough to have an 04 with the upgraded 4r75w trans. The 99-03 cars still have a very good automatic which is good for around 500/500 once you mod it which is NOT as shift kit. I repeat, DO NOT GET A SHIFT KIT! You do the J-mod which is a $60 mod give or take and its better than a shift kit not to mention it increases the life of your transmission.



Gasket set and 2 drill bits do = about $60. New trans fluid will be a little more but you can have it shipped from Tousley Ford for around $5/qt IIRC or just get the basic box store brand Mercon V for $5 on sale which is what I did for my Expedition. I have half a mind to do the j-mod to my Ex myself but I'm going to probably sell it within the next 12 months and I don't want someone to feel the firm shifts and think something is wrong with it.

As for the motor, plenty of guys running in the 400whp range on a PI motor. Just as long as your tune is good and your cooling system is good and you aren't stupid you'll be fine. I mean at a higher level there is more likelihood of something breaking but having an auto will make it MUCH easier on the drivetrain.

edit: If by shift kit you mean shifter for a 5 spd... lol get a Tri-Ax or MGW. MGW is more of a stock feeling short shifter, the Tri-Ax is noisier, notchier, but better for nailing shifts IMO.
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I am a big fan of the eibach pro system plus. Installed the whole thing in about 6 hours and the difference is amazing! The kit itself is less than a grand and the only things I've added suspension wise is cc plates, a Bumpsteer kit, and rear control arms. So about another 5-600$. Car handles beautifully now. Honestly the drop is only about half to 3/4" probably don't neeeed the Bumpsteer but I do auto X and I wanted the geometry perfect. Don't get poly spring isolators. They squeak terribly. Use heater hose for the front lower isolators and reuse the rest. If you have a compressor and an air gun you can easily do it in a day.
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All the eibach system is is new shocks/struts/springs/sway bars. Its great for freshening up the stock suspension but can't hold a candle to a good coilover setup. However you will pay much more for a coilover setup. Even the cheapest one (UPR) is going to run you around $1k total and the MM one is $1700 but the MM kit is stronger, better quality and moves the wheels forward to improve your overall suspension geometry.
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You're automatic? Cool, better for straight line power anyway than a stick especially if you are lucky enough to have an 04 with the upgraded 4r75w trans. The 99-03 cars still have a very good automatic which is good for around 500/500 once you mod it which is NOT as shift kit. I repeat, DO NOT GET A SHIFT KIT! You do the J-mod which is a $60 mod give or take and its better than a shift kit not to mention it increases the life of your transmission.



Gasket set and 2 drill bits do = about $60. New trans fluid will be a little more but you can have it shipped from Tousley Ford for around $5/qt IIRC or just get the basic box store brand Mercon V for $5 on sale which is what I did for my Expedition. I have half a mind to do the j-mod to my Ex myself but I'm going to probably sell it within the next 12 months and I don't want someone to feel the firm shifts and think something is wrong with it.

As for the motor, plenty of guys running in the 400whp range on a PI motor. Just as long as your tune is good and your cooling system is good and you aren't stupid you'll be fine. I mean at a higher level there is more likelihood of something breaking but having an auto will make it MUCH easier on the drivetrain.

edit: If by shift kit you mean shifter for a 5 spd... lol get a Tri-Ax or MGW. MGW is more of a stock feeling short shifter, the Tri-Ax is noisier, notchier, but better for nailing shifts IMO.
Yes by shift kit I meant I have an automatic. And is the J mod something one can do in there driveway with little experience on transmission work? I'm very experienced in engine work and everything else but I have never tackled a transmission before.
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Yes by shift kit I meant I have an automatic. And is the J mod something one can do in there driveway with little experience on transmission work? I'm very experienced in engine work and everything else but I have never tackled a transmission before.
Watch the video.
It's pretty simple as long as you take your time and double check everything.
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Yes by shift kit I meant I have an automatic. And is the J mod something one can do in there driveway with little experience on transmission work? I'm very experienced in engine work and everything else but I have never tackled a transmission before.
Watch the video. If you can do engines the j mod is a walk in the park.
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Watch the video. If you can do engines the j mod is a walk in the park.
Awesome ill check it out when I get hime
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Yeah man you'll love it. You'll be able to bark 2nd with the car after the j-mod if you want. Its just like a shift kit but better with no shift kit issues.
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Yeah man you'll love it. You'll be able to bark 2nd with the car after the j-mod if you want. Its just like a shift kit but better with no shift kit issues.
Oh sounds awesome thanks man!
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Yeah man you'll love it. You'll be able to bark 2nd with the car after the j-mod if you want. Its just like a shift kit but better with no shift kit issues.
I kind of wish I barked 2nd lol, when I hit 2nd hard I have no traction half way through it (manual + crappy tires)
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