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Old 05-23-2013, 12:32 AM   #1
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Decided to keep the Mach 1 and make a awesome NA build..
My goal is to trap over 110 / to be in the high 11s

Current mods are

Steeda Tri-AX
O/R X + SLPs
Tokico Front Struts / Rear Shocks
Cut Springs
Open oiled filter / Deleted silencer / Breather

Next mods ill be doing

4:10 Gears
31 Spline axles
FRPP alm. Driveshaft
Upper and Lower control arms
Delete quad shocks
H&R SS springs
Porting the intake runner
Comp 106100 cams
90mm mass air
Longtubes O/R X
And will be getting some prostars with ET streets
So we shall see
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have you thought about doing any head work while the cams are out? That would be the time to do it. And it will really help the cams make more power.
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have you thought about doing any head work while the cams are out? That would be the time to do it. And it will really help the cams make more power.
I was thinking about it but ill be doing the cams myself as a weekend job, it's my DD I really don't want to wait on the machine shop to get it done , they take forever .. Unless I find some used cobra heads

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Has anyone used BBk longtubes ? I found a set off a Mach 1 for 150 .. Idk how figment quality is though
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Quality will be good. Figment not sure.
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Quality will be good. Figment not sure.
I heard some bad story's of cheap headers rubbing against steering shaft ..
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I've read getting 96-98 cobra cams is a easy and cheap way to get 20rwhp

I think ill go that route instead of spending 1300 on comp cams
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I've read getting 96-98 cobra cams is a easy and cheap way to get 20rwhp

I think ill go that route instead of spending 1300 on comp cams
Your still looking at 1000 probably because labor is going to be 500 to 700
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Your still looking at 1000 probably because labor is going to be 500 to 700
Lol I'm a man .. I do my own work (:
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Lol I'm a man .. I do my own work (:
Haha I feel ya! But shoot I wouldn't want to change 4 cams lol
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Haha I feel ya! But shoot I wouldn't want to change 4 cams lol
It doesn't look hard to be honest , just getting them degree'd to the specs I want is going to be a little tricky
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I'm ready to see this build! I love mean NA builds.
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Are you dead set on comp cams? Comps arnt bad but I would look other places. Plus if you go over stage 1 cams you have to look into valve springs, retainers and on a 32v its not cheap.
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Decided to keep the Mach 1 and make a awesome NA build..
My goal is to trap over 110 / to be in the high 11s

Current mods are

Steeda Tri-AX
O/R X + SLPs
Tokico Front Struts / Rear Shocks
Cut Springs
Open oiled filter / Deleted silencer / Breather

Next mods ill be doing

4:10 Gears
31 Spline axles
FRPP alm. Driveshaft
Upper and Lower control arms Leave the stock uppers alone, do MM lowers
Delete quad shocks
H&R SS springs
Porting the intake runner
Comp 106100 cams
90mm mass air
Longtubes O/R X
And will be getting some prostars with ET streets
So we shall see
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I was thinking about it but ill be doing the cams myself as a weekend job, it's my DD I really don't want to wait on the machine shop to get it done , they take forever .. Unless I find some used cobra heads

Uh, you HAVE Cobra heads. The Mach 1 has the same exact heads as the Terminator



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Has anyone used BBk longtubes ? I found a set off a Mach 1 for 150 .. Idk how figment quality is though
You don't need longtubes, the stock manifolds are not restrictive on the 4.6Ls like they are on the old 5.0Ls

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I've read getting 96-98 cobra cams is a easy and cheap way to get 20rwhp

I think ill go that route instead of spending 1300 on comp cams

Its the 96-98 Cobra intake cams that are the more aggressive ones, the exhaust cams are identical on all the 4Vs so just swap the intake cams for 96-98 Cobras and call it a day if you are going that route.
Build looks pretty good, there are a few things I added my $.02 from having been messing around with these cars for over a decade now. You can get into the 11s simply from some bolt ons, traction a tune and the driver mod. You CAN do longtubes if you want, I mean its up to you but they really aren't going to do much and definitely not worth the $ for the HP. I personally would take the money you are planning on dropping on 4 aftermarket 4V cams and the longtubes and put that towards a Terminator blower setup. I know you say you wanted to stay NA but in all honesty... that will probably go out the window the first time someone who has less money into their M112'd motor than you do into your NA build toasts you down the 1/4.
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You don't need longtubes, the stock manifolds are not restrictive on the 4.6Ls like they are on the old 5.0Ls

Build looks pretty good, there are a few things I added my $.02 from having been messing around with these cars for over a decade now. You can get into the 11s simply from some bolt ons, traction a tune and the driver mod. You CAN do longtubes if you want, I mean its up to you but they really aren't going to do much and definitely not worth the $ for the HP. I personally would take the money you are planning on dropping on 4 aftermarket 4V cams and the longtubes and put that towards a Terminator blower setup. I know you say you wanted to stay NA but in all honesty... that will probably go out the window the first time someone who has less money into their M112'd motor than you do into your NA build toasts you down the 1/4.
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You don't need longtubes, the stock manifolds are not restrictive on the 4.6Ls like they are on the old 5.0Ls

Build looks pretty good, there are a few things I added my $.02 from having been messing around with these cars for over a decade now. You can get into the 11s simply from some bolt ons, traction a tune and the driver mod. You CAN do longtubes if you want, I mean its up to you but they really aren't going to do much and definitely not worth the $ for the HP. I personally would take the money you are planning on dropping on 4 aftermarket 4V cams and the longtubes and put that towards a Terminator blower setup. I know you say you wanted to stay NA but in all honesty... that will probably go out the window the first time someone who has less money into their M112'd motor than you do into your NA build toasts you down the 1/4.
I believe the idea behind another set of cobra heads, was to be able to them worked and ready to go one without having excessive down time waiting for the machine shop to finish his.
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Are you dead set on comp cams? Comps arnt bad but I would look other places. Plus if you go over stage 1 cams you have to look into valve springs, retainers and on a 32v its not cheap.
That's why I chose the 106100 they are drop in cams when set to I think 106/110 they get good gains

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Here's the 106100
I met him at the track , his only problem in this video is no traction, but ill post another video of him hitting 12.1 ..

The last time I saw him he had. Eaton swap and was running low 11s

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You don't need longtubes, the stock manifolds are not restrictive on the 4.6Ls like they are on the old 5.0Ls

Build looks pretty good, there are a few things I added my $.02 from having been messing around with these cars for over a decade now. You can get into the 11s simply from some bolt ons, traction a tune and the driver mod. You CAN do longtubes if you want, I mean its up to you but they really aren't going to do much and definitely not worth the $ for the HP. I personally would take the money you are planning on dropping on 4 aftermarket 4V cams and the longtubes and put that towards a Terminator blower setup. I know you say you wanted to stay NA but in all honesty... that will probably go out the window the first time someone who has less money into their M112'd motor than you do into your NA build toasts you down the 1/4.
True , and I've thought on that trust me .. I just want to do everything before I go blower , so when I'm pullied , I have supporting mods , ya know ?
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I believe the idea behind another set of cobra heads, was to be able to them worked and ready to go one without having excessive down time waiting for the machine shop to finish his.
You do not need to touch the revised heads unless they need fixing. If all you truly want is 11s you do not need to spend half the money you have listed in parts to get there.

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-Sticky tires
-mildly upgraded rear suspension
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-Tune

Done. The M112 swap for the Cobra is about $1k in parts and then a $300 Terminator take off Supercharger.
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You do not need to touch the revised heads unless they need fixing. If all you truly want is 11s you do not need to spend half the money you have listed in parts to get there.

-Gears
-Short shifter
-Midpipe/catback
-Sticky tires
-mildly upgraded rear suspension
-Pulles
-Cai
-Tune

Done. The M112 swap for the Cobra is about $1k in parts and then a $300 Terminator take off Supercharger.
I've found one in dallasfor 1600 the rest people want 3,000-4,000 for the swap ! Crazy
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Well its $1k if you piece all the small parts together yourself finding deals where you can and I've seen multiple blowers with low miles go for $200-$300. $1600 is a REALLY good deal for the whole thing though and you will pay a premium for the convenience. $3k-$4k... lol, link them to the Kenne Bell kits and ask them why their kit costs nearly as much and is used.
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