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Old 06-07-2013, 11:24 AM   #1
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? Edelbrock Victor Jr on 4.6

I have a friend that wants to know if you can use this setup on his bolt on/naturally aspirated 03 GT. I told him I wouldn't do it it looks like its made for cammed or blown Mustangs. He said he wants it more for looks than for power. He just thought it looked cool anyone to know if it would work well with this car. So I told him I would ask the guys from ME. What do you think?


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I personally have this intake on my 04. I also have 18-20lbs of boost being shoved thru a 6061 elbow. I have fully built teksid block and stage 2 cams. An NA car with no mods will choke and loose a lot of torque. I would recommend an Accufab upper plenum and throttle body if he wants bling and functionality.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:47 PM   #3
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If he puts it on he's going to hate it. On a bolt on GT that intake will lose a ton of low end and not pick up much if anything up top. The PI intake is a proven winner and there really isn't a better offering until you get to bigger cubes or a blown application. If he wants it to look better he can upgrade the plenum and do some other stuff. He'll also need more than just the intake like the elbow and fuel rails. Not smart, not smart at all on his part honestly.
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If he puts it on he's going to hate it. On a bolt on GT that intake will lose a ton of low end and not pick up much if anything up top. The PI intake is a proven winner and there really isn't a better offering until you get to bigger cubes or a blown application. If he wants it to look better he can upgrade the plenum and do some other stuff. He'll also need more than just the intake like the elbow and fuel rails. Not smart, not smart at all on his part honestly.
Trick flow or bullitt are the only two that have gains on NA but be ready to fork out the big bucks
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They are completely not worth it. I see ppl spending $1k to get a bullitt setup on their car and laugh. $1k for 5wtq and an added 30-40lbs to the nose of your car. Have fun. The TFS intake isn't worth it either. IMO, stay PI until you hit the 16+lb boost mark and not because of flow issues, I just would not trust a plastic intake after that. I've seen ppl run like 24lbs no problem and make upwards of 700whp though all through the stock plastic intake though. I am personally going tork tech with a ported M112 so no intake issues for me...
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They are completely not worth it. I see ppl spending $1k to get a bullitt setup on their car and laugh. $1k for 5wtq and an added 30-40lbs to the nose of your car. Have fun. The TFS intake isn't worth it either. IMO, stay PI until you hit the 16+lb boost mark and not because of flow issues, I just would not trust a plastic intake after that. I've seen ppl run like 24lbs no problem and make upwards of 700whp though all through the stock plastic intake though. I am personally going tork tech with a ported M112 so no intake issues for me...
+1 the do change your powerband tho.. It's may only be 5hp peak but.. There's other factors..
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I lost 10ftlbs of torque upto 3900rpm. My HP took off at 5200rpm and ran out of wind at 7400rpm
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+1 the do change your powerband tho.. It's may only be 5hp peak but.. There's other factors..
I'm not saying it isn't a better intake, just not $1k and 40lbs better. If I had an all out NA car I'd be a 5.4L 2V with TFS heads, seriously port matched adapter plates and then I would run the Edelbroke or a 4.6L stroker 4V with ported 03-05 Revised heads and an 99/01 Cobra or 03/04 Mach intake.

Actually if I was doing a NA Mustang build I'd probably go with an older fox I could register as a classic or 94/95 Cobra I could put collector registration/insurance on to completely avoid emissions altogether and drop a worked 408 into it.
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I'm not saying it isn't a better intake, just not $1k and 40lbs better. If I had an all out NA car I'd be a 5.4L 2V with TFS heads, seriously port matched adapter plates and then I would run the Edelbroke or a 4.6L stroker 4V with ported 03-05 Revised heads and an 99/01 Cobra or 03/04 Mach intake.

Actually if I was doing a NA Mustang build I'd probably go with an older fox I could register as a classic or 94/95 Cobra I could put collector registration/insurance on to completely avoid emissions altogether and drop a worked 408 into it.
That's what I love about Nebraska.. Not to get off topic.. But I've got my 93 cobra.. LT headers gt40 intake.. Street legal.. Right now working on finding someone to rebuild the motor..
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Eh, I we can have anything we want on the cars here in NJ as long as it passes the sniffer. However if its OBDII they just plug into the computer to make sure there are no emissions codes and call it good which is one reason I now have a modular.

Lol and the wife wants me to try to put in for orders to California... I think being military I can stay NJ registered/inspected though...
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Eh, I we can have anything we want on the cars here in NJ as long as it passes the sniffer. However if its OBDII they just plug into the computer to make sure there are no emissions codes and call it good which is one reason I now have a modular.

Lol and the wife wants me to try to put in for orders to California... I think being military I can stay NJ registered/inspected though...
Mine wouldn't pass haha
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Emissions whats that?? I have all my emissions removed EGR and cats. When I go to get mine done they asked do you have high flow cats um yes. Good thing they didn't bend down and look. Haha
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Emissions whats that?? I have all my emissions removed EGR and cats. When I go to get mine done they asked do you have high flow cats um yes. Good thing they didn't bend down and look. Haha
Off topic but how do you like the egr delete?
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Honestly there is no difference i did it to clean up under the hood around the intake
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There really is 0 reason to delete the EGR unless you just want to get rid of all the junk under the hood. And nobody ever wants to pay for the tune to properly turn it off either lol.
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There really is 0 reason to delete the EGR unless you just want to get rid of all the junk under the hood. And nobody ever wants to pay for the tune to properly turn it off either lol.
I have it, does clean up under the hood nicely also pcv delete and cat delete too
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I have it, does clean up under the hood nicely also pcv delete and cat delete too
Got a picture and never heard of the PVC delete??

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Heres my engine bay, pretty sure it was the tubes that went to the valve covers( where my oil breathers are )
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Heres my engine bay, pretty sure it was the tubes that went to the valve covers( where my oil breathers are )
Looks clean just heard its not good for it?
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Looks clean just heard its not good for it?
Depends if its done right honestly, mine runs perfectly fine at 40,000miles on a built engine
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stock 2v with stage 1 mhs cam went 12.5 the setup works

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Built 2v, full forged internals, pcv egr cat delete.. Stock intake manifold 78mm CAI, custom dyno tuned with ecu chip and lots more lol

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Your in NC too?
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Built 2v, full forged internals, pcv egr cat delete.. Stock intake manifold 78mm CAI, custom dyno tuned with ecu chip and lots more lol

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Your in NC too?
yea im in nc Jacksonville.. this is my buds car in az..my car is a bullitt. bullitt intake 65mm twin tb k&n cai o/r x slp lm1 gears tuner
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yea im in nc Jacksonville.. this is my buds car in az..my car is a bullitt. bullitt intake 65mm twin tb k&n cai o/r x slp lm1 gears tuner
Ever heard of Oakboro? Lol
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haha no
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haha no
Good ole oakboro cruise inn, small town haha.. Ive been near jackson a few times im more near charlotte
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To adress both of the isues that have come up in this thread,...I ran a Victor Jr on my 2v for a total of 12k miles in one year,..all w/ a carburetor and the PCV system converted over to breathers on the valve covers. The car managed 23+ MPG at 73 mph on the I state going to Mustang week,...and several of the other day trips I took so I can't imagine that the intake killed off too much torque.

Warning,...this is a carb'd picture,...so if it is gonna bother you,...avert your eyes.
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To adress both of the isues that have come up in this thread,...I ran a Victor Jr on my 2v for a total of 12k miles in one year,..all w/ a carburetor and the PCV system converted over to breathers on the valve covers. The car managed 23+ MPG at 73 mph on the I state going to Mustang week,...and several of the other day trips I took so I can't imagine that the intake killed off too much torque.

Warning,...this is a carb'd picture,...so if it is gonna bother you,...avert your eyes.
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